Fidelity: How do YOU define it?

@kamran12 (5526)
Pakistan
April 27, 2007 8:30pm CST
How do you define fidelity? I am not really interested in dictionary definitions but how exactly it is defined in your culture? Some moral values are rooted in cultures i.e. defined differently in different cultures. Fidelity may or may not be one of them. Do you think it is universal or just a cultural value?
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9 responses
• United States
28 Apr 07
Fidelity to me is extreme loyalty in every aspect of a couples life. Complete trust, and not just when it comes to cheating. Couples should always be honest with eachother about everything.
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• United States
29 Apr 07
Thank you for the kindness! =D I find your discussions interesting and fun to participate in! Can't wait for more to come :)
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
29 Apr 07
You are welcome:-), I am happy that your rating is steadily going up. Efforts proved to be fruitful:-)
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
29 Apr 07
I glad and honored LilyoftheThorns! that you decided to participate in my discussion:-) I agree with your view that it is loyalty and complete trust in every aspect of a couple's life, I appreciate.
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• Philippines
11 May 07
Hi Kamran! For me, Fidelity is being loyal in all aspects of a relationship, means to your friends, family and love. I think it goes beyond the physical aspect. Because you can be loyal with your body but not with your heart, mind and words. Fidelity is the ability to stand up for what you believe is right, to stand up for your friends and values. Fidelity is to be there for the person in need even if you are facing his/her rejection or denial. It's to be there not only physically but in spirit too. I think Fidelity is universal. It's just that some don't seem to understand and accept Fidelity as a virtue. They may think that it gives their lives barriers or walls. But they don't realize that once you have embrace Fidelity, the true freedom and enjoyment of life is its reward. Have a nice day Kamran! (^^,)
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
11 May 07
Thanks, Aphroditei_5279! I am glad that you participated in my discussions:-) Your views are appreciated:-) I think I share your vision and agree with that. Thanks for your wish and same to you.
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
19 May 07
You are welcome Aphroditei_5279! and Thanks for wishes, same to you:-)
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• Philippines
19 May 07
Thank you for the BR mark Kamran! I really didn't expected it and I'm glad we share the same views. More blessings! (^^,)
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• United States
23 Jul 07
Fidelity is cultural.But I think it should be up to the couple.My idea of fidelity is that my boyfriend, husband, lover loves me more than anyone else.But to others it may mean than their spouse doesn't sleep with anyone else.As long as the couple agrees, it is okay.
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
23 Jul 07
I can understand your reasoning, sarahruthbeth22, and it's interesting! Thanks for sharing your views here:-)
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@Buchi_bulla (8298)
• India
23 Jul 07
In Tamil language, we say for one man one lady only. When you know that your spouse is yours and yours alone, you start loving them more and more. Possessiveness is more important here. If a husband goes behind other ladies, what interest a wife will have on her husband? This man has gone behind another women, that sort of feeling will come and the true love will not be there anymore. May be for some reason they may stick on, that is all. So this oneness feeling that you for me and me for you is only True Fidelity, not only physically but mentally too.
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
23 Jul 07
Hello Buchi_bulla!:-) You have a very respectable and refined view of this concept. I really appreciate and liked when you say that it's not only physical but mental too. I have come to know that possessiveness is not very well appreciated here and is considered a sign of bondage or slavery but perhaps it's totally different than how we see it. To me it is a very satisfying gift in a relationship. The feeling to posses and be possessd is something that makes a person free, and the relationship, stronger, in my humble opinion. Thanks for sharing your views here:-)
@youless (112123)
• Guangzhou, China
23 Jul 07
As to the country, fidelity is you have to love your country and never do something to hurt it. As to the spouse, you have to be loyal and never cheat him/her and has an affair with someone else. As to friends, you can't betray each other. As to your boss, as long as you still work for him/her, you can't tell the business secrets to another company. You can't work for another company.
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
23 Jul 07
Hello youless!:-) I think you have very well refined and clearly defined notion of fidelity in each aspect of life. Brief but comprehensive, I appreciate your response:-)
• Philippines
2 Jul 07
..fidelity ofr me is like this...you are comfortable to leave your wife alone at home...even though you know one of our neighbor likes her...you are confident to let your wife go to a party and that she would do things as she told you...jealousy would never be a great issue of argument..and even if you both find out each other's eyeing on someone or find someone flirting to your partner...you are trusting that your partner would never betray you...
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
2 Jul 07
Hello gregory_burnz! I can relate to much of what you said. Thanks for your views and sharing them with us:-)
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
6 May 07
I'm not so sure how much my ideas on fidelity are influenced by culture. I read your discussion, and the responses, and had to think for a bit before I was sure how to respond. I am a believer in the uniqueness of each human relationship. So my views on fidelity are highly dependant upon this idea. For me, fidelity is following honestly each boundary that you and your partner have set within your relationship. Those boundaries might be very different for different relationships. So my idea of fidelity is making an agreement, and sticking to it, whatever that agreement is. And if you have a situation where you're not sure what you should do, instead of guessing or making a decision based only on your own moral values, actually going to your partner and getting their opinion.
@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
6 May 07
I have difficulty with that as well. I have been cheated on before, and I know it doesn't feel good, which is why I would never ever cheat on a partner. However, I have done things other people would think of as cheating, completely within the accepted boundaries of my relationship. Which is why I state things the way I do: I think the most important thing in any relationship is that you and your partner are happy with the relationship, and not what others outside say about it.
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
7 May 07
I am not sure lecanis, if i got your point. sometimes our definitions are not perfect. similarly it's not necessary that what others are saying is right. To me, every physical action not only has both physical and spiritual effects but it should also have both these aspects, in harmony, in intention/motivation. Unlike many people, I don't see them in conflict, though i place priority to spiritual aspect. I don't care about physical pain in achieving spiritual benefit, but i do care about spiritual benefit in physical pleasure. A physical pleasure void of spiritual benefit is useless for me. When I approach my wife and vice versa our intentions are a combination of physical and spiritual pleasure, in harmony, which allows us to have spiritual bliss alongside physical satisfaction. You know, both of us were told about our son to be born 6 months before his conception. We were asked to be spiritually prepared and We were even told of the name to be given to him and what role he will play afterwards. It will be helpful, probably, for us to meditate and self examine if each of our action benefit us or not, both physically and spiritually. You don't need to tell me or anyone for that matter, the results of this examination, but if you feel something needs correction on my part or if you want to share your vision, i am all ears:-). Disagreement is your right and is well respected:-) Best of luck.
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
6 May 07
Thanks for your participation and sharing your views lecanis! I am honored:-) I appreciate your view that it's about following each boundary defined within a relationship and sticking to it. I have respect for people who have certain standards and follow them honestly, no matter how different they are from my own. I do have difficulty, however, with people who either have no standards defined or if defined, don't follow it honestly.
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@matrixx (254)
28 Apr 07
Fidelity is about being loyal to your partner not just physically but emotionally as well. The beauty of relationship is that you know for sure that your partner is possessed by you and you only. I think it is universal as every culture keep high esteem and regard for fidelity. isn't it so?
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
28 Apr 07
Thanks matrixx! for saring your views. I do think that It is not just physical but emotional as well or me be spiritual too:-).
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@matrixx (254)
28 Apr 07
You are welcome! but how do you define spiritual fidelity?
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
28 Apr 07
This is a bit difficult to explain but i'll try. In this physical world where we have physical and emotional relationships, there is another higher level of relationship, that is spiritual which may exist independent of space and time as well as physical enitities. being honest and adhering to this relationship would be spiritual fidelity:-) but chances of error in this type of relationship are much higher compared to other type of relationships which makes it more complex than others. I hope that this is helpful.
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@jessemt35 (294)
• Qatar
11 May 07
Hello kamran. IMHO, fidelity is being true and loyal to your partner even if he/she becomes unfaithful to you and that is the hard part of fidelity. Loyalty in every way, physically, emotionally and spiritually to the point that even if you are hurt you still remain faithful. God bless.
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
11 May 07
I am glad that you participated in my discussion, jessemt35! We do share almost common view, being fidel is a personal issue and in that one should remain fidel no matter what come may:-)
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