Wolfie Is On The Rant Again: Caged Animals

@wolfie34 (26771)
United Kingdom
May 7, 2007 11:46am CST
I went to our local cat rescue centre with my housemate today as he helps out there looking after cats who have been dumped, beaten or abused and some stray cats too, It is truly a wonderful centre and they do so much for these animals, giving them a second home and a second chance in life. I came away sad and it didn't help when we went to a garden centre afterwards and tucked away was this horrible pet corner where there were lots of birds in small cages ready to be sold on. They hardly had any room to flap their wings and fly. There were kittens in cages too and I saw one little girl poke and prod a kitten and moaning at daddy because it wouldn't move! There was NO supervisor there and the counter was run by two kids (well I say kids, you know what I mean old enough JUST to work there) I had a cold shiver up my shoulder because I know as a human what it is to be trapped and feel like I'm in a cage. I couldn't get out of there fast enough. My friend said they'll have been RSPCA inspected but even so, it's horrid that animals are being sold in this way and it's not right. Sorry to get on my high horse but I just can't bear seeing ANY animal in a cage. It's like prison for them. I know most of them will get homes but to pet centres they are just POUND notes not animals Do you agree or am I being the usually overly sensitive wolfie again who is looking after his fellow animals!
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28 responses
7 May 07
Hi, i have connections to people in the RSPCA and i have alot of friends who will be willing to do something about this, so if it is within our area we will want to do something, so please could you tell me about where this is happening because when its animals being included i want something done and i want it done now
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• United States
7 May 07
In my experience animal welfare agencies like this just don't have high enough standards for pet care. It's great that they help enforce some basic guidelines like pets must have a shelter, food, water, etc. but they leave a lot lacking. They make sure that the animal's survive but can't seem to enforce more quality care than mere survival. What can be done? Since you know people in this area I'm sincerely interested in finding out what we can do to ensure more *quality* care for animals.
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7 May 07
well i will have to wiat till tomorrow to talk to them but i will definitely talk to them and wolfie if you remember the name of the place and the exact address please message me INSTANTLY so i can go down their pretend im a customer then scream the roof of believe me i can be a persuasive guy lol
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• United States
7 May 07
Oh no, I agree completely with you about this!! My first real paying job with animals was at a Petland petstore. Everything looked so nice and I love animals so I thought it'd be the perfect job for me. Boy was I wrong! Behind the scenes it was very different! Animals sick, dying, not cared for properly...it was horrible! And yes, they weren't feeling, breathing, living things to the store owner. They were nothing more than dollar signs, "how much profit can I make off of this", and if it wasn't profitable the animals suffered. This was also where I learned about puppy mills. After I just couldn't take it anymore and quit I felt so bad that I started my own rescue to try to make up for any harm I'd done by working for that awful place. It was incredibly hard and expensive but I was very happy for a long time with it. I also helped get that Petland shut down and investigated a few puppy mills. The puppy mills are every bit as horrible as anything you've heard about them and worse!! When my life started to fall apart and I had to quit rescuing I went to work for Petco thinking that because they refused to sell puppies and kittens that they must be a good, responsible company to work for. They were definitely better than Petland but not good to their employees at all and there were still many, many abuses there! I'm so glad we are financially stable enough now that I never have to work again if I don't want to because animals are my passion and calling in life. Everyone has really strong gifts in at least one particular area, something that they're better than most at, and working with animals is mine. But I can never again work for someone else in any animal industry. Wherever someone is profiting off of animals there is abuse somewhere and I simply can't deal with that. I'll find a way to get paid working with animals in some way or another but be my own boss so that I know that the animals I work with are better for me being there.
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
7 May 07
Well done you! Thanks for sharing and ensuring the welfare and safety of our friends
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• United States
7 May 07
Thanks :) My concern though is I know enough now to make sure that I don't add to this awful cycle but I want to find out how to do more than that! I want to help END this kind of thing. I'd love to hear from others about it! I'll go start a new discussion so that I don't highjack your great thread here! LOL
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• United States
7 May 07
I hate seeing that so much I find it difficult to even read such discussions, usually I just go to the next one but because you are my friend you deserve all your friends to answer your discussions, so here I go ... I think that is horrid also, I can't stand to see animals caged, I have 2 cats that live a better life than me, I believe pets are to be cherished and love since they give us so much in return, more unconditional love than is ever expected. How could you even go near such a place? I would have left immediately, not my cup of tea ... take care
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
7 May 07
I only get my pets from animal rescue centres. I don't think pet shops should be allowed to set live animals, only food and supplies, surely they must be regulated and I really appreciate you responding especially on this sensitive subject.
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• United States
7 May 07
Oh they ARE regulated but the standards of care are not high enough plus I can tell you firsthand that places like this get very good at hiding infractions that they could get into real official trouble with this!
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8 May 07
Wolfie, you are not wrong hun. I hate seeing animals in cages, particularly in pet stores. At least our local store has spacious enclosures and pens for their animals, the cats and puppies are all in large pens with room to move and no one is allowed anywhere near them without a member of staff in attendance. This shop is probably a rarity though, most don't seem to care much so long as they make their money.
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@whywiki (6066)
• Canada
7 May 07
You are not overly sensitive at all. I don't believe animals or birds should ever be caged. I can't stand pet stores that have these poor creatures caged. You are right, we don't like being caged so why would an animal. Kudos to your house mate and you for helping these poor animals. It seems so many people see the hardships of humans and don't even notice the plights of animals and birds. It breaks my heart when I think of the hurricane Katrina and how many pets were left behind whether on purpose or by misfortune. I hate the idea of these poor animals wandering lost for many days. I know some people think I am nuts but in any natural disaster I feel for the animals since they can't fend for themselves. Keep up the fight for the well being of these animals. One day we will be heard.
@PsychoDude (2013)
• Netherlands
7 May 07
Problem for many of those stores tend to be space, they usually are located in rather small shops in which you probably wouldn't even want to live and can't simply place the animals together because they'd kill each other. So in order to have some pets on display they'll need to be stacked in smaller cages. Doing pups and such all together tends to be avoided usually because they have a bigger risk of starting to infect each other with puppy diseases, same goes for quite another lot of animals. Being able to stand up straight and turn around in a cage is the requirement a cage has, if that is not the case it is a violation but usually that is covered. The birds in cages don't fly at all, they have their wings clipped because for their own good they shouldn't be able to fly if they're in a cage. They tend to hurt themselves because cages are never big enough. Although it tends to be something like a prison, it usually does keep them healthier if they have the space to stand and turn around, have clean cages and don't come in direct contact with the other pets. When a kid is there with her dad though poking the cat it's not up to the shop owner to say something about it but the dad, he should raise his kid rather than letting her do everything.
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
7 May 07
Much appreciated for making things clearer for me, I still think there should have been a supervisor on hand? It was a complete comparison to the rescue centre where the cats had plenty of room, well supervised and tended to regularly. Thanks again
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
7 May 07
I totally agree with you there Wolfie I mean when I went to the Kennels where I got Gissi it hurt me to see the Dogs locked up I know they have to but it is not Fair I mean they didn't even have the little door where they could go out they had to rely on those People taking them out when they have time and thinking about it I didn't see any Grass there so I do not know where they take them if they do As for the Kids poking them that is awful someone should be there to watch that and mostly the Father should have stopped her
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@jennybianca (12912)
• Australia
8 May 07
You are not being overly sensitive. What on earth is a garden shop selling kittens & birds for? They shouldn't be allowed to. Surely anyone selling pets in a shop premises needs a license to sell pets? They are a garden shop, so I bet they don't have a license. Report them to the RSPCA & the licensing authority. I am a pet lover too, especially cats.
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@eaforeman6 (8979)
• United States
8 May 07
they should have regular attention. There should always be someone there and many people will volunteer to help out.I think they forget and dont realize these animals have feelings and are traumatized by all this.. S ome of them have to wait awhile to get adopted and in the meantime they need the attention and love.
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@theone3nu (598)
• India
8 May 07
No wolfie - I don't think you're being over-sensitive. I hate to see any bird or animal caged too, and I would certainly have slapped the horrid little kid poking the kitten! Actually I'm surprised such places still exist here now - I thought the legislation against Pet Shops etc was still pretty strong here. I would certainly be taking it higher now - maybe contacting your local Council to complain about conditions, - or the RSPCA or RSPB. Btw - if that kind of thing upsets you - please don't go to Barcelona, because the market in Las Ramblas is full of caged birds, rabbits and small animals, just left out in the heat all day with noisy people and traffic going past all the time. Last time we went there, we thought it had been discontinued, but when we turned the corner, there was this horrid market, and I had to go back to the Hotel and spent the rest of the day crying because it upset me so much. And - you know me - when it comes to animals my friend - there is no such thing as "over sensitive" in my opinion.
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@yanjiaren (9031)
7 May 07
DFriend ,you have every right to vent it out, especialy here on Mylot which is my favourite centre for venting mylotters. IT IS NOT A BAD THING WHAT YOU ARE VENTING, YOU ARE LOOKING FOR JUSTICE AND YOU HAVE A CARING , LOVING AND VERY KIND HEART WOLFIE, AND THAT'S WHY ALL YOUR FRIENDS HERE ON MYLOT LOVE YOU. YOU LOVE THOSE ANIMALS TOO AND CARE FOR THEM AND DO NOT LIKE TO SEE THEM COOPED UP LIKE THAT. THANKS FOR SHARING MY FRIEND AND DO NOT FEEL BAD OR APOLOGIZE.I AM IN TOTAL AGREEMENT HERE WITH YOUR SENTIMENT, AND THAT IS NOT JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO AGREE BECAUSE IT IS YOUR DISCUSSION.
@RobinJ (2501)
• Canada
8 May 07
Hi Wolfie if it wasn't for people like you those animals would be even more worse off. I admire any one who stands up for our feathered and furry friends. Blast them any way, go up and threaten those kids to get off their butts ans look to the animals that are being abused by potential customers. Here in Canada all the animals are out of reach of the general public, and if you are looking to buy you must wash your hands before you touch the animals, they for the most part have 3by 5 cages and no more than 5 puppy's or kittens per cage, we can see them but not touch or torment them. My granddaughter loves to go into the pet stores and I follow along until we get to the Guinea pig cage and then I have to leave as I am so allergic to them . so we save them for the last, but I can feel my nose starting to itch and run when I go in the front door of the store.
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• United States
8 May 07
No, you are not being overly sensitive. i have a hard time seeing animals in cages, too. Especially when there are small children (or anyone, though it is USUALLY small children) harassing them. You know, i realize those kids weren't being paid much to work there and i also realize they were not supervisors, but i still feel it was their responsibility to bew atchign after those animals and making sure nothing like this was hppening. It just disgusts me that they allowed this to happen. Poor little kittens! And poor birds unable to flap their beautiful wings.
@mummymo (23706)
7 May 07
Well done for having a rant about it honey - it is far better to let it out than to leave it all inside churning you up inside! I do agree with what you say - it can be horrendous and cruel and I do not believe you are being overly sensitive at all! \\my friend and I were just taking yesterday about a certain garden centre chain which keeps and sells fish. My friend was upset because so many of them were diseased and had infections which according to her (and she knows what she is talking about) are so easy to cure and only takes a little time and not much effort! Well done Wolfie for caring and for giving this subject some attention! Love you honey - big hugs xxx
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• United States
7 May 07
I agree with you. It is wrong to treat animals with such disregard. If you want to get proactive contact PETA and they will look into it and get changes made. These types of conditions are the reason that I get my pets from private citizens or breeders rather than puppy mills or cruel Pet stores.
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@patootie (3592)
19 May 07
I thought having pets for sale like that had been outlawed in this country long ago .. ?? I simply cannot go anywhere that has animals for sale in cages .. just think of the poor things terror when the shop closes at night .. the lights are turned off and it goes quiet .. for hours and hours .. poor little things .. even then when the staff come back in I bet they are totally ignored .. I certainly wouldn't ever buy anything from a place like that .. I bet they are mentally scarred for life by such an awful start to their lives ..
@rosie_123 (6113)
7 May 07
No wolfie - I don't think you're being over-sensitive. I hate to see any bird or animal caged too, and I would certainly have slapped the horrid little kid poking the kitten! Actually I'm surprised such places still exist here now - I thought the legislation against Pet Shops etc was still pretty strong here. I would certainly be taking it higher now - maybe contacting your local Council to complain about conditions, - or the RSPCA or RSPB. Btw - if that kind of thing upsets you - please don't go to Barcelona, because the market in Las Ramblas is full of caged birds, rabbits and small animals, just left out in the heat all day with noisy people and traffic going past all the time. Last time we went there, we thought it had been discontinued, but when we turned the corner, there was this horrid market, and I had to go back to the Hotel and spent the rest of the day crying because it upset me so much. And - you know me - when it comes to animals my friend - there is no such thing as "over sensitive" in my opinion.
21 Jun 07
I've never liked either. I feel sorry about the fact they're inside them, I even feel bad when I see pet owners having them in those darn small cages for transport. Horrible thing to do..... ~Joey
• India
7 May 07
No Wolfie, you are not wrong. Infact whatever you saw was wrong. I totally agree with you. Its not being overly sensitive. Its just that you feel like one coz most of us are numb towards animals. Money matters in this frenzied world. People have lost their sensibility, they are hardly kind to anyone without any selfish reason. I'm not generalising but I find this with most of us.
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@mssnow (9484)
• United States
7 May 07
That is so cruel Wolfie. I would have probably asked how the animals could function in cages so small. Maybe write a letter to your local newspaper and tell them what you saw. I'm like you I don't like seeing anything caged up. xxx
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