i am very down at the moment=(
By lols189
@lols189 (4742)
May 9, 2007 7:04pm CST
hi friends well i have had some bad news that has really got to me. my boyfriend is not allowed to work in this country as the home office wont issue him a work permit and he has been in this country for 5 years. a friend made my boyfriend a fake work permit to take for proof to his boss that he could work in the UK. aaahhh well he was working yesterday morning and at 10am the immigration came to his work and arrested him. he text me 3 times to say "i am arrested love c u soon" but i was asleep and woke up at 11am and got the msg. i called his friend and his friend just told me the immigration had arrested him and so on. i was ringing the police station all day and they would not tell me anything and i was really going crazy. well my boyfriend called me on tuesday night at 10pm and told me he is not coming out as he is appearing before magistrates court at 09.45am. i went to sleep at 5am as i couldnt sleep at all as it was all playing on my mind throughout last night. i woke up at 08.30am and i was at the court at 9.30am waiting round for ages for his solicitor to come and get me as i couldnt see my boyfriend as he was locked up in the cells beneath the court room. they called me in at 11.35am when he was in court. the judge was a nasty man who had an attitude problem and with my boyfriend not being able to speak good english the selfish police never brought an interpreter for my boyfriend and i am fuming. i thought my boyfriend was getting bailed but the judge announced he will be remanded in custody till he appears before the crown court on 16th may. i am f**king fuming as to why i never had a say in the mattter as my boyfriend was only out there trying to make a living for himself as he is not entitled to any benefit in this country!is it a crime to make a living for ourselves now? the solicitor told me my boyfriend could well get 9 months for this offence and i see this immigration service as total scum as they wanna be out there taking dangerous people off the streets. my boyfriend called me before to say he is in Wales in a police station and he will be put in a prison in Runcorn tommorow morning. i just wanna see him as my heart is broke=(. i am really upset and i cant eat or anything as this is a total shock to my system. i am really upset as we were like glue always together and we think the world of each other. i am contacting the solicitor in the morning to make an appointment for him to speak on my behalf in the crown court next week. what you all think about this? does anyone have any ideas for me to tell the solicitor to help my boyfriend? if you dont mind can you all pray for him that he gets at least released on bail? your help is very very much appreciated. thanks everyone=(
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@recycledgoth (9894)
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10 May 07
Aw hun, I know you are upset about all this but you have to remember that what your boyfriend and his "friend" did was illegal, can it's forgery. I wish I could tell you that everything will be alright, but I think you have to be realistic and prepare yourself for the fact that he could well be deported or sent to prison. I really hope that things will work out for you hun, but you will have to be very strong if things turn out badly. Fingers crossed
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@3superkids (446)
• Philippines
10 May 07
It's so unfortunate what happened to your boyfriend and i understand what you are going through right now. your boyfriend is very lucky to have you. As i cannot give any legal advise all i could do is pray for you and your boyfriend. i hope everything will turn out fine. Be strong. God Bless.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
10 May 07
Sweetie you are in my thoughts and I do not know why they would not give him a Permit to work here if he has been a good Citizen for the last 5 years
You are both in my thoughts and I do hope it goes ok Sweetie
Big Hugs to you Sweetie and I am thinking of you
Be strong Darling
@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
10 May 07
I am sorry to hear that this had to happen, however false workpermits are never good. It is better to FIGHT for a real one...
Atleast he is allowed to text you from inside there, that is alot more than he wouldbe able to do if he was arrested in my country.
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@marlyse (1056)
• Switzerland
10 May 07
awww sweet lols, i am so sorry to hear that. i wish i could help, but like what was said before, i think the only thing to help him, to stay at your country is to marry him. i do understand that the laws should not be broken, but with the bad man your family had to handle they are nice and swith your bf who didnt do bad things to you they are so strict. i pray for you and your bf lols and please dont hesitate to contact me if you need to talk. megan has my emailaddy ;-) hugs to you and i send you force and strength to go through all this
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@lols189 (4742)
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15 Aug 07
thanks marlyse for the lovely response, i appreciate it. i am keeping strong. can you send me your email addy by pm as i dont really see megs that often and she has changed her phone number and i dont have it so we have not been in touch much over the past 3 months. rated ++++
@LittleMel (8742)
• Canada
11 May 07
I don't know the regulations there but over here I am an immigrant married to a Canadian and the govt issued an ID card for me then I started working 2 months after I arrived.
I know how you feel about your bf working, but his fake work permit would really damage his image now. By the way hope things cleared up for your bf!
@Gwapako_28 (2140)
• Philippines
10 May 07
Sorry to hear your story and what happen to your boyfriend.I know,its too hard to stand the situation you have right now.But your boyfriend didnt abide the law and he needs to pay it.
But dont worry,i know everything will be fine.Have faith and do what is right for yourself.Pray and dont lose your hope.Its not the end yet.You need to be strong.Okay???
God Bless!
@Married2aMarine (1273)
• United States
10 May 07
I know you're upset but what your bf has done is against the law. To be in a country using a false permit is a very serious offense. He is in a lot of trouble and there's really not much you can do. You can get advice from the solicitor and try to do whatever you can on your end but at the end of the day, the law is the law. Your bf may be making an honest living but the fact that he is staying in the country under false pretense will make immigration come down on him hard. He will eventually be deported and will not be allowed to return to the country for a long, long time and maybe never again. I'm so sorry to hear of your predicament. I doubt he will be released on bail. I don't know what it's like in the UK but in the US, they are very, very strict about such things. I know of someone that was in that situation here and she was caught, thrown in jail and deported IMMEDIATELY. She did not even get to pack, say goodbye to her family (she has small children here who are US citizens) and she's married to US citizen. But because she did not have the right papers to stay, she was deported immediately. This all happened one week after she was married! They fought and fought for her in court and spent thousands of dollars and only after 3 years, she's allowed to come back to the country to be with her family. So, it's going to be really tough for your bf from now on. I wish you all the best though.
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@mssnow (9484)
• United States
10 May 07
I am very sorry to hear this about your boyfriends. the courts can be very strict and mean at times. But there are law and when you break them you get into trouble. no matter how harsh they are. Im not saying that to be mean or anything just to let people know that even if they are starving on the streets don't break a law because the courts ont care about hearing your sad stories. I will pray for your boyfriend hon. I hope everything works out for you Hugs to my friend :)
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
15 Aug 07
Sorry...although I understand your upset...this has become a big issue here in the States. I don't know the laws in UK but if someone is going to immigrate to another country they need to do it legally.
Buying fake working permits is illegal and ppl need to understand that when they break the law...they go to jail. Regardless of the circumstances its pretty plain and simple...
Here in the States they are also getting strict with ppl getting married just to try to keep an illegal in the States.
I hope you work through this.
AT PEACE WITHIN
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@easy888 (10405)
• Australia
13 May 07
Hello,lols,sorry to hear that.So how is it going now?Is there any ways to solve the problem ? How about seeking for sympathy and asked for the department to grant a working visa for your boyfriend as he is only working there and had not get any government benefits.
Anyway,take care and I hope you and your boyfriend will be fine.
@mummymo (23706)
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11 May 07
I am so sorry that you are all going through this sweetheart - people here in the uk complain about asylum seekers and immigrants coming here and expecting to be supported but out government won't let them work to support themselves so it tends to be a lose , lose situation! I feel for you and your boyfriend sweetheart and am holding you in my heart and prayers sweets - stay strong lols and let us know how things are going! xxxx
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@steve9737 (918)
• Colombia
20 Jun 07
I read the story about your boyfriend and I was almost to make me cry, it is very sad that happened to him, I see it was like one month ago, I hope is fine now, I think the problem come when he make that fake work permit, it not good make that king of thing, in my country it is very common the people make thing like that but in a European country been a alien, I think it is not a good idea, I have a girlfriend that like in usa and she is coming to visit me and I will go the next year to visit her, and I think read about the laws is a good idea because you can unknown thing that would make go to the jail easy.
@Lydia1901 (16351)
• United States
10 May 07
Well, I am so sorry about that and I hope your boyfriend gets help sometimes. Good luck to you both.
@rainyl (671)
• United States
10 May 07
Sorry to see your so upset, however did you not think sooner or later someone would catch on that he was notlegal to work? Breaking the law is not OK. I am sure you love him and he loves you however you knew he was not legal to work so you should have taken him to the proper offices and helped him become legal.
I hope you both get this all taken care of. However following the laws instead of breaking them always helps stay out of trouble.
Both of you will be in our family prayers for the best outcome.
@rosie_123 (6113)
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10 May 07
OK - I am sorry that you are so upset, but please see it from the other point of view. I live in the UK, and my job involves working with Asylum Seekers and refugess so I do know a little it about this subject. And - I'm sorry - whichever way you look at this, your boyfriend broke the law, and you can't go around breaking laws and expecting to get away with it. This may sound harsh, but at the end of the day - why should people EXPECT to come to our country and claim benefits straightaway or take jobs away from British taxpayers? Some of my colleagues interview people all day for National Insurance numbers - and if he hasn't been given one in 5 years, there must be a damn good reason for it. Most people do get them, and though it takes a long time sometimes, they do the right thing - visiting the Immigration Department, trying to get a National Insurance Number, and waiting patiently until all this is agreed. What he did was greedy and illegal - also putting his employer at risk as well as getting himself into trouble, and that is just selfish and stupid. And as for not speaking English after 5 years - may I ask why not? My partner is not a natural English speaker - but when he came to the UK, he was fluent in less than a year, through evening classes, and self-teach manuals, and plain hard work and effort, because he wanted to fit in here. So - again - I am sorry that you personally are upset, but your boyfriend is not going to get any sympathy from me or many other British people here. After all - be reasonable - why should someone come into this country and take benefits straight away when other British taxpayers have been working years and years to pay their taxes.
@rosie_123 (6113)
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11 May 07
Well I'm sorry if you thought I was harsh - but I'm afraid I stick by my original view. If he was working illegally on a forged document - then he WAS committing fraud. And having worked in Immigration for years I KNOW the Job Centre would not have given him a "real" National Insurance number - it would only have been a temporary one until he had received indefinate leave to remain, which he obviously wasn't, or else he would not be under arrest by now.
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@lols189 (4742)
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10 May 07
he had a choice to either steal or earn money to make a living. he chose to work not like the small minority of british people claiming benefits who are pure bone idle and lazy to work. he was paying his tax and national insurance contributions as he did have a aN N.I number from the jobcentre when they were handing them out. he didnt know about the home office and work permits when he first came to UK and thats when he got the NI number. theres no need to be harsh about it as he is NOT commiting fraud when he was working. the home office document was fraud i agree. if you ask me about the home office they are nothing but liars as they have lied to him on many occasions and yes he can speak English but most of his friends are interpreters who will defend him so thats why he wanted an interpreter
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@lols189 (4742)
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11 May 07
trust me it was a real National Insurance Number as i was the one who booked the appointment for it from the Jobcentre plus office in Oldham. the immigration might think there someone but he has a whole lot of support for him on wednesday. he has 2 solicitors and decent ones, 2 good friends who are interpreters and his boss from the factory is going to be there to support him as he thinks the world of my boyfriend. he cant get deported anyway as he is from Kirkuk in Iraq and it is not safe for him to go back and if the home office tried to send him back they should think twice about his safety and if anything did happen to him if he did get deported then he can cause a big problem for the immigration and nationality directorate
@smurfettewv (359)
• United States
10 May 07
What he did was wrong even if it is ti work, it was fraud and he will belucky not to be deprorted back to his country and put in jail there. The immagration and judge did their job and he would not get bail as he is a potential flight risk and has shown that he would commit fraud. Be glad you dont have children together or that they didnt come to your home to arrest him or you would be most likely charged as well. Pray that he learns his leson and try to relax all things happen for a reason.
