relentless 3 year old

@tina12679 (1126)
United States
May 11, 2007 6:05pm CST
how do you get a child to just stop? My 3 year old daughter is stubborn and relentless she does not have it in here to just stop once she has started on something anything. If she want something and is not permitted to have it or do it then she cries whines and tempertantrums until you want to lose your mind. And she never stops. The only way to get her to stop is to give in, and i cant do that anymore. One good thing is that she only acts this way at home or at family houses never in public, at least not yet. I want to put an end to it before this happens.
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
15 Jun 07
Believe me I do know what you are going through. My niece was that way. We tried putting in her room for a time out and the neighbors we had at the time called the cops from her screaming so loud. Thankfully the cops that came out had kids and understood but it made us more leery. We didn't need to have them constantly called. Got to love busy buddy neighbors. She'd be that determined to get something and drive us nuts with it. We'd end up giving in because we were afraid of the neighbors calling again and getting the wrong sort of cops. We moved and that helped but by then she was so used to carrying on to get her way that she'd go on and on for something. Not always would she cry but just bug you and bug you, and it would go on for months sometimes. You might distract her for a day or so but then she'd be bugging you again for what ever it was. All I can suggest is try to nip it in the bud now because once older it's even harder. If you can do the time outs do so. I'd suggest even getting some earphones for yourself or ear plugs to lessen the amount you hear. That way she can't get to you as easily.
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
15 Jun 07
Well by the time we moved so much of it was ingrained into her it didn't help. She's also Bipolar with ODD (oppositional difiance disorder which many bipolars have). She comes by that part naturally, it runs in the family but she's gotten a lot better and we don't have near that type of problems that we had when she was younger.
@tina12679 (1126)
• United States
15 Jun 07
Things have gotten a little better since i have first posted this discussion. I have taken some of the advice given. She doesnt whine as much anymore but she is still relentless not as bad as the young lady you mentioned but she dont give up without a fight most the times. LOL Thank you for sharing your experience. Have a wonderful day.
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• United States
15 May 07
Giving an audience is often what keeps the tantrum going. If she sees it's affecting you, then she's going to keep it going. Ignoring the tantrum is a good idea. When a child sees that they aren't getting anywhere, they will first try to do one worse, like bang their head against the wall or hold their breath. However, once they realize that the worse behavior still gets them nothing, they will stop. It takes patience. Another idea is to put her in her room and tell her that she needs time out to calm herself down. Children do look to us for comfort when they are hurt or in need of love, but tantrums aren't the same thing. You firmly (but not harshly) lead her to her room and put her in there and tell her that if she would like mommy to hear her out, she has to use a calm voice and when she can calm herself down, she can come out. When she does calm down, come to get her and explain to her that mommy loves her, but that tantrums are unacceptable. And reinforce that you will be happy to listen if she speaks nicely. Tell her that she owes mommy an apology and then hug her. Show her that just because she had a bad moment, that she's not a bad girl. Bear in mind also, that sometimes three year olds can start having more tantrums when they are tired. If your little one is tired and she begins to get disagreeable, she may just need a good nap. I've found that when my little ones would get cranky and have tantrums, if they were tired and I put them in their room to calm down, they'd often climb into their bed and go to sleep. And once they woke up, they would be their sweet, loving selves again. Whatever method you choose to handle the situation, be sure that you are consistent. If your daughter has a tantrum and you announce that she will be going to her room when she has a tantrum, stick to it. Don't threaten. Give her a warning, tell her that if she continues, she will face the consequence that you have chosen. If she continues, follow through. Don't wait or keep giving her warnings. Children by nature push limits. If they aren't totally sure where the boundaries lie, they don't really know when to stop. If one day you follow through each time, and the next you just threaten, then it confuses them. I wish you the best of luck, and I know you will make the right decision for you and your daughter. Keep firm and don't give in. And if you get really frustrated, there's nothing wrong with mommy taking time to herself. Just know that she will watch your reactions and if you show her that she's shaken you up, it will become a game to her, where she will see how much she can do to get you visibly upset.
• United States
16 May 07
I know how you are feeling. You put her in alone time and when she starts to cry or to start up again, it makes you feel like if you don't respond to her, then you're not being a good mommy, or you worry that she may think you don't love her. At times like this, kids often work themselves up into a frenzy just trying to gain back the control of the situation. I'm not saying that kids are calculating, and I don't think that they, at that age, consciously make the decision to try to regain control. I do think that she remembers how you would give in to her, and she wants that back. So, when she begins crying during her time alone, you feel guilty, and if you give in, it starts over the cycle. My kids used to fool me like that also. I would put them in their room and they would stop crying immediately, and tell me that they learned their lesson, etc. then would start up again as soon as I let them out. Or, they would be in their room for a little while, quiet down, then start screaming again. In cases like that, give her the time alone in relation to her age. Let her stay there for 3 minutes. And she will be totally fine during that time. If she cries more, just remind yourself that she is doing this because she isn't getting her way. The only time this wouldn't be the case is if she did something to harm herself. It does take patience and perserverance. And, when you decide that you want to gain back control, you may have to do this 100 times a day to get it through to her. As long as you are consistent, the amount of times you have to give her these times alone will decrease. I'm not saying they will totally stop, but it will be alot easier to handle when it does happen. When I started this with my kids, it seemed like they were teaming up on me. Which is not a fair fight - 3 against one. I remember having to put all three kids in their rooms, then sitting downstairs and bawling like a baby. I turned up the television so that they wouldn't hear me, so they didn't know that they had gotten to me. It will be stresful at first, but it will pay off. Sounds like you need a break too! It gets so difficult to deal with little ones when you have been dealing with them all day, every day 24/7. If you don't get a break away from them, you tend to go into melt-down mode a lot easier. I know I did! When I realized this, I finally told my husband, who is not always the most agreeable person, that I was going to take a trip to the store and that he was in charge of the kids (this was on one of his days off). I took my time and stayed gone for a good long while. I felt so free! But, it also helped me to recharge and gave me a bit more patience to deal with the kids.
@tina12679 (1126)
• United States
16 May 07
wow thanks for the great advice. I have been trying to work on getting things under control the method i have been trying to reinforse is the alone time in a room by herself it seems to work to stop the tantrum that is happening but then she seems to go into another because she desperately needs me and i try to tell her that once she stops crying i can talk to her and she just dont stop. So i say are you done being bad and crying over whatever it was that she was tantruming about and she says no then i tell her to come here but then it just starts all over again back to the beginning of her wanting what i told her she couldnt have in the first place. so i dont give into her desperately needing me anymore either. I feel like i am going in cicles.
@hari120 (623)
• India
16 May 07
Children are stubborn,we have to excercise a lot of patience but slowly we should make them understand what is right and what is wrong, it will take a lot of patience from us to do this.
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@tina12679 (1126)
• United States
16 May 07
i agree it does take alot of patience that i struggle to keep sometimes. I often find myself going to hide out for a few minutes so i dont lose my patience. Thanks for the comment
@liyan97 (2127)
• Northern Mariana Islands
16 May 07
I too have a two year old who often gives me a hard time & yeah, I too give in most of the time. I try not to allow her continued behavior by distracting here with something else. For example, if she cries for something like my house keys, I try and find something else that would interest her, even if it is just a snack of giving her a chance to type on the computer. It doesn't always work, but when it does I am extatic!...lol....Good Luck
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@tina12679 (1126)
• United States
16 May 07
I have also tried distraction and i am sorry to say that has pretty much blown up in my face. If it a snack then she thought if she did her bad behavior she would get a snack, or if it was a chance to play her sisters game cube which she loves then she would misbehave to be allowed to do that. she also gets it into her head that if she was alowed to do something once then she should be alowed to do it all the time with or with out permission so then that causes more bad behavior. Just be careful with what you think is a distraction your child may be seeing at as a reward. Thank you for your comment
• Philippines
15 May 07
My kid did the same at that age. But I am not letting him, get what he wanted, specially if it would harm him. I would rather give him more interesting things, or something that would catch his interest more.
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@tina12679 (1126)
• United States
15 May 07
I agree she would never get what she wanted if it were something that would harm her. But she has managed to get her way in the past with a tantrum and i know that is where i went wrong. But i am working to correct my mistake. Thank you for your comment have a wonderfull day
• Norway
15 May 07
You should just be strict because the later you deal with the problem the more problem it makes.
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@tina12679 (1126)
• United States
16 May 07
I agree that i have made more problems for myself for being so leniant with her or just giving into her. I am really trying these last few days since the post and all the great responces to change the way i was handling her. thank you
@Tanya8 (1733)
• Canada
11 May 07
I think the answer is to no longer give in to tantrums EVER. It will be hard at first, since she knows from experience that she can sometimes get her way with a tantrum, but maybe you could explain your new policy in advance during a time when she's in a good mood. I'm not sure how safe you feel doing this, but an option to keep your stress in check during a tantrum is to say, "I can't listen anymore. I'll be in the other room, and I'll be happy to talk to you when you can speak in a normal voice." Then go into the other room and close the door. I didn't deal with tantrums this way, but I have done it when the kids have tried using a rude tone, and they usually apologise right away. When my kids were going through the tantrum stage, I used to empathise with them, and comfort them to help them get back in control of their emotions. I found speaking in a quiet voice helped me stay calm, and I think my being calm, helped them get back to normal sooner. I'd see the opposite with my husband sometimes, who, after a long day, would start screaming back at them, and then the tantrums could go on for ages.
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@tina12679 (1126)
• United States
15 May 07
I agree that we should never give into tantrums. Thank you for your advice and this is something that is possible to do, although she does like to just follow me around when she is throwing a tantrum i will have to find a way to keep her put. Because she also doesnt listen to stay on that couch young lady either. or anything like that.
• United States
12 May 07
I know this is hard to do but try ignoring her. That's what I did one time and it stopped. I mean completely act like she isn't there and you can't hear her. Just tell her one time when she first starts then don't say anyhting to her again until she stops.
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@tina12679 (1126)
• United States
15 May 07
Thank you so much for your suggestion. It is hard to ignore her, but it is always worth a try.