Things not to say to a person who has suffered the loss of a baby

@Swtrose (3385)
Canada
May 12, 2007 4:42pm CST
When someone loses a baby be it through miscarriage, ectopic pregnancy, still birth or infant death it is still a loss. I realize that sometimes people just don't know what to say, but you know at times it is best not to say anything at all. Everyone’s experience will be different and unless you have suffered a loss you can not really comprehend what someone else is going through and even if you have loss you can only sympathize because we really are separate individuals and we all feel pain differently. Having loss two babies myself one due to ectopic pregnancy and my daughter due to doctor negligence I still can not get over what some people say. I know they really mean well, but a short life or even an unborn life can make a huge difference to our lives. I was reading a discussion today that really disturbed me. It was the things that were said to a woman who just experienced a loss. Just because her baby was not yet born, her baby’s life is not worth any less. When someone has a miscarriage or ectopic pregnancy, she still needs time to greive because it is still the loss of her baby. There is no time limit for grieving. The following things are commonly said and they shouldn't be. "Maybe its God's way of giving you a chance to get everything in order when ever your ready to have another one its going to be ok." "Maybe, it is not yet the right time for you to have a baby." "Don't be sad there is always a second chance." "It was meant to be." "I know the feeling of losing a foetus even though it is not born yet." "I know how it would feel to lose a child." "I hope you'll overcome this sooner so that your life goes on." "You are still very young and you can always have another baby." "It was probably for the best." "Better it happened now, rather than later." Miscarriage, ectopic pregnancy, still birth, infant death or child death all are very different but each one of them is still a bereavement. Please understand that the person has lost a life and just because the baby wasn't born does not mean it shouldn't hurt less. A loss is a loss. It can take months or even years to grieve a loss. My daughter has been gone 15 years and it still hurts. I do not believe a parent can ever get over the death of a child or baby, because they were apart of them.
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• United States
13 May 07
i responded to that post you're speaking of. and of course the first thing i said was that i was sorry. now i almost didn't write that cuz one of my friends had one miscarriage, and one ectopic, and even though i was one of her closest friends, i told her i was sorry and she was so angry at that. she said she was tired of hearing "i'm sorry". but not everyone knows what to say. did you get sick of people basically apologizing? this is hard cuz people really don't know what to say, so i feel if you don't know what to say, better not to say anything at all. i'll have to go back and see what else i said to her. but i hope i didn't hurt her feelings.
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@Swtrose (3385)
• Canada
13 May 07
You're right sometimes it is best to say nothing at all.
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• United States
13 May 07
it's just so hard when you want to offer your condolences. i pray that everyone means well. however, i would NEVER say, "oh, i can just imagine how that would feel", OR something like, "get over it, move on."...no way. cuz i know for a fact i would be devastated if i lost my son, yes...but that's not what they need to hear. it's not about us, it's about her. i just try to respond in the way i would want someone to respond to me.
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• United States
13 May 07
oh chertsy my goodness the things you've been going thru lately. again, dare i say...I'M SORRY. i know everyone handles things differently. some have lost more than others. some just aren't good with words. just know you will be in my prayers. your father, everyone. sometimes we take one step forward, and then something will knock us back 2 steps. not sure why, but it happens, and at times does NOT seem fair. don't be afraid. please keep us posted on your father's health, as well as yours and if you get prego again soon, YELL IT OUT TO THE WORLD! bless your heart honey. if you need to chat, i'll be here.
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@camar_lyn (1028)
• Singapore
13 May 07
Hi Swtrose, i know how close this topic is to you. I've lost 2 babies myself. Like you said earlier, each person experiences pain differently. I think that maybe because of my personality, i didn't grieve for a long time. However, that also doesn't mean that i am not affected by it. I do once in a while ask myself what life would be like if i have 2 more children in my life and in the family. And everytime this happens, i always end up with the conclusion that life right now is better for me. Maybe it is GOD's way of knowing what is best for me. I really do not know. But it is only my husband who knows of my lost babies. We didn't tell anybody else. Not even our parents. We agreed that it is our family and we want to keep it to ourselves. Something private. We really do not need condolences or anything else from anyone because we want it to be just between us. - Lyn
@chertsy (3797)
• United States
13 May 07
Only people that knew about my miscarriage was my husband, his sister, his mom, my mom and my sister. I didn't want my dad to know, because it wasn't long ago that we lost my brother to murder. We didn't want to push him over the edge and have another heart attack. Only reason my husband's sister knew, she was there with me when it happened.
@chertsy (3797)
• United States
13 May 07
One thing you forgot to add is for the women that already have children is It's ok at least you already have a child or children. Miscarriage isn't like you really lost anything, because the baby wasn't fully formed. I was around 12 wks when I miscarried. At that time I didn't know I was pregnant, because I started bleeding around the time I would have started my period. Since I was a little late, I just asumed that my body was catching up with me. It has done that in the past. I started bleeding not heavy or anything on Halloween day of '00, then about 5-6 days later after taking a shower, I sat down, luckily on the toliet to put my undies on and a huge and I mean huge gush of blood came, not to gross anyone out, but it was everywhere. My daughter was only 4 at the time witnessed that and flipped out. I didn't actually stop bleeding until April. My sister told me I needed a d&c that it would have stopped it. I couldn't even begin to deal with it, because it didn't seem to want to end. I was blessed by God above, I became pregnant about 2 months after I stopped bleeding. Then had to worry about her as well. I was told that she could be born without a heart, or die the moment after birth. I was told to abort her. I told the doctor no, I wouldn't do that. Before the miscarriage, right after I lost my brother to murder. I was looking around on the internet for chat rooms for people that had a loss. At that moment, I needed to talk to people that lost a loved one, be the person a child, a family member, anything. I was sinking in that hole of depression fast and quick. I found one, but was told to come back after I lost a child that I was basically not welcomed. It really hurt, I did come back after I miscarriaged, that person was nor longer there. The ladies welcomed me and let me talk about my brother which helped. I was also able to find a site that helps people with all kinds of losses. If it wasn't for those ladies, I wouldn't be here today. I'm still friends with many of them, that went on to have other kids, I still listen with them when they talk about there babies. They shared there happiness when I was pregnant and vice versa. A couple of them helped me get through many holidays and same with me with them. I learned the most important thing is just be there. You don't have to say anything, just be a shoulder, an ear, let them talk about there babies. It doesn't matter if it takes 5 minutes or 5 hours. Just be there, via phone or the internet or in person if able.
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@chertsy (3797)
• United States
13 May 07
Thank you, and same here. My door is always opened if you ever need to talk.
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@Swtrose (3385)
• Canada
13 May 07
All I can do is offer my most heart felt condolences to the loss of your brother and baby. If you ever need to talk my door is always open.
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@4cuteboys (4099)
• United States
13 May 07
Hey Swt. I don't know if I have ever said the wrong thing (i hope not) but i do find it hard to say the right thing, and also to say nothing. :( I had a miscarriage Jan 2006, and the only thing people said to me besides my hubby and 1 girl was "it wasn't meant to be". Blah. I still don't like thinking about it.
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@Swtrose (3385)
• Canada
13 May 07
It is not always easy to say the right thing and sometimes I'm sorry is sufficient. My condolences to your loss 4cuteboys soon to be 5cuteboys.
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@shinjiao (1457)
• China
13 May 07
Yes,you are quite right. My aunty Z lost her son after her first pregnancy.My older cousin(my aunty Z's daughter)and I found a letter written by my aunty Z in the drawer some day and we knew that indeed we "had" a older brother.But unfortunatley,he couldn't live with us.From then on my older cousin and I understand why my aunty Z would like to pay more attetions on little boys.She still grieve over her little son! Lossing the baby is the most pain for a mother.There is no word to cure her sadness.
@Sherry12 (2472)
• United States
13 May 07
You are right, you never get over it. When I had my little stillborn boy, he was my baby. And, part of me left and went with him. I don't think I can ever explain that feeling, but part of my heart left and went with him, I felt it. I know people just didn't know what to say, but when they say "oh you can have another one". Yes, that was true and I did, but they don't replace the one that is gone. We go on with our lives, but we still wonder what he would be like, would he play sports, would he like music. Who would he look like. And, I have a place in my heart that can't be filled. The good thing is that I'm no longer afraid to die, because I know I'll get to see him.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
14 May 07
I gave up an infant for adoption and when I got married and tried, I found I always miscarried. A former friend told me the reason I could not have any was so some poor woman in Africa *who was more deserving" could have a lot of children. People should not assume that childlessness is because that childless person is so horrible that God will never let them be a good mother.
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@onabreak2 (1161)
• United States
14 May 07
Some people are just so ignorant. Some of the things that you listed here are proof of that. I know when we lost our Grandaughter my cousin sent a stupid poem and to this day I cant stand him. People should not say anything at all if they have to say things like this. Im sorry will suffice because you there really is not anything that anyone can say that is going to make it better. I really wish people would just think before they open their srupid pie holes.
@Swtrose (3385)
• Canada
14 May 07
I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your granddaughter.
@sacmom (14192)
• United States
13 May 07
I'm pretty sure I have said something like "I know what it feels like to have a miscarriage" but only AFTER I had one back in the end of 2005. I certainly never thought I would grieve like I did, and I still feel sad whenever I think about it. But what IS someone SUPPOSED to say to someone that lost a child whether it was born or not? Nothing? Would this make the grieving person feel better or worse?
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@sacmom (14192)
• United States
13 May 07
That could work, but for me I like to take it as an opportunity to share with those that have lost a baby with my own experience. That way they may not feel so alone in what they are going through. A simple "I am very sorry" or "my condolences" may not be enough sometimes... Just my two cents.
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• United States
13 May 07
Most times a simply "I'm sorry for your loss" is the best. I know it may sound too simple but it really is better. That way you don't have a chance to say something they might take wrong but you have acknowledged their loss and validated their feelings.
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@Swtrose (3385)
• Canada
13 May 07
How about "I am very sorry" or "My condolences." Believe me, no one knows how another feels in a time of grief even if they have loss.
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@dlkuku (1935)
• United States
13 May 07
I have not suffered such a loss, but I have several friends who have, whether the loss was a miscarriage, a stillbirth or one that occurred when the child is older, I have no way of knowing how that person feels, but I know they are feeling a lot of pain and grief. I try not to say anything that will bring them more pain, but I can acknowledge their pain and say I am sorry, and just be there for them. I have one friend who told me that the worse thing was when others didn't acknowledge her loss at all when she miscarried, she may not have gotten to hold her baby in her arms, but she held the child in her womb and in her heart.
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• United States
12 May 07
You are so right. I lost my son 16 years ago at the age of 15 months. I still grieve for him. His birthday is coming up in a few days and it isn't any easier this year then it was 15 years ago. I still find myself depressed, I wonder what he would look like, what his temperment would be. I was so upset when my son passed away and I heard over and over again, you're only 20 there is still plenty of time for you to have more children. Yes there was still plenty of time but another child can not replace Tyler. I know they might have meant well but it hurt and I feel it shouldn't have been said. When I meet someone that has lost a child I try to stick to "I am sorry for your loss" or something simular. I can sympathize which what you are going through but I can not know EXACTLY what you are feeling. Each person is different just like each child is different, we all handle the same thing differently. There is no timeline on when you should stop grieving for your child. I will remember my son each and every day of my life. He was a part of me, I believe my children are the best part of me. He is still very much loved, the same amount of love I had when I found out I was pregnant with him. For me my grieving will probably go on for the rest of my life.
@Swtrose (3385)
• Canada
12 May 07
My thoughts will be with you that day. If you need someone to talk to feel free to pm me. I so know what you mean. After 15 years listening to the song "tears in heaven" still makes me cry. It does not matter if our child was five weeks, 15 months or 15 years the pain of loosing a child is still as strong. Some times I feel cheated, but I know God had a better plan for her, but I had to come to terms with that on my own and my own time. It was not someone's place to tell me that.
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@wachit14 (3595)
• United States
13 May 07
You raise some interesting points. People need to be sensitized about loss through miscarriage. Whether you believe that it's a real child or just a fetus, it is a loss nonetheless to the mother whose dreams are extinguished. That alone is worth greiving over.
@nicolecab (923)
• United States
14 May 07
i agree with you!! i think in this stage it is better to just let them know that you are there for them and care about them. A mother who has lost a child will talk about it when she feels it is time other than that nothing at all should be said untill she is ready (which could be never). I am very sorry for your loss!! and my prayers are with you!!
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• United States
13 May 07
My ex was a behemoth!!! He told me to get over it!! I lost my daughter (miscarrage) December 10th 1995 and it still hurts on that day!!! I get very withdrawn still!!! He was so mean to me last year... hes like get over it shes gone theres nothing you can do about it and besides it was so long ago why are you even still bothered by it!!! I was so mad we broke up over it!!! Please people remember it dont matter how long it has been the pain can still remain!!!
@TerryZ (22076)
• United States
13 May 07
Hi Swtrose I think your right about all the sayings that people say to you. I feel if you dont know what to say in these circumstance dont say anything. Ive found myself in this sitution a couple of times in my life and I simply cant say anything because I feel the hurt as bad as them. So all I can do is be there for them and give them hugs. Its truely a difficult thing and I think your a very strong person and hugs to you.
@Carrie26 (1587)
• United States
12 May 07
You cant never get over a child or a loss no.But I know alot of people that have to move on with thier lives.Yes they still think of the child and I am not saying that they shouldnt feel sad or grief at one point or another ,everyone does whether it be losing a child or parent ect..But You have to move and be strong.I have a friend who lost a child and yes she still greives but she understood she couldnt just think it was the end of the world and to never move on.I think that people are just trying to be helpful and understanding for the persons loss.If they dont like that then they shouldnt post it.Because then people are going to respond because people feel for people.
@Swtrose (3385)
• Canada
12 May 07
Well Carrie who are you to decide how long someone should grieve?
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@Swtrose (3385)
• Canada
12 May 07
Excuse me but I'm not bashing anyone here. I'm asking you to show some sympathy. Again you do not know what it is like. Who am I to say? I'm someone who has buried my daughter at 5 weeks. I carried my daughter for nine months. Then I gave birth to her. Then I watched her suffer. Then I had her taken from me. Then I held her lifeless body in my arms. Then I watched her tiny casket being lowed to the ground and now I visit her graveside so don't sit there and tell me that you know what it is like because you imagined life without your children. I'm living it and life does go on, but that person has every right to grieve as long as they need.
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@Carrie26 (1587)
• United States
13 May 07
I did show sympathy then either way we get people jumping over us if we show it then we are accused of not knowing loss or if we dont show it we are of being ignorant and mean self centered people.So people cant have it both ways.I am saying why write a post and then get made at people if they do show people.People shouldnt get angry if people show sympathy.And for one thing my mom suffered a miscarrage so dont tell me that people dont move on.Yes my mom still grieves as well as my friend doese but they relaized they had a life and even though you still think of them you still have to do day to day duties.If I lost my child today I woudl always greive but I would have to do my day to day life and duties becasue I beleive my child would want me to be happy .All I am saying is some people get angry so easily and get mad at people either way if they feel sympathy we are accused of not knowing what it is like if we dont show it we are accused of negligience.Also in my post if you read it is makes no implication that you cannot greive all I am saying is soem people sit and think thier life is over.Yes they lost a child and it is OKAY to GREIVE over that child even forever .
@Carrie26 (1587)
• United States
12 May 07
You cant never get over a child or a loss no.But I know alot of people that have to move on with thier lives.Yes they still think of the child and I am not saying that they shouldnt feel sad or grief at one point or another ,everyone does whether it be losing a child or parent ect..But You have to move and be strong.I have a friend who lost a child and yes she still greives but she understood she couldnt just think it was the end of the world and to never move on.I think that people are just trying to be helpful and understanding for the persons loss.If they dont like that then they shouldnt post it.Because then people are going to respond because people feel for people.
@KarenO52 (2950)
• United States
13 May 07
My second pregnancy was an ectopic pregnancy. The worst thing someone said to me was, well, you already have one baby. I also heard, you can get pregnant again. It took a long time to get over the grief of losing my baby before it was born. I was able to have more children after losing that one, but nothing can really make up for the loss of a baby or a child, whether or not it was born. I still find myself missing one.
@mamasan34 (6518)
• United States
13 May 07
Bless you for posting this! I myself have had several miscarriages, one ectopic pregnancy, and a pre-term birth at 6 months. I had to have an abortion because I needed to make a decision between living to care for the only child I had or taking a chance of another miscarriage, loss or my own life. I chose to take care of my existing child, it was the hardest decision I had to make, and sometimes I regret it deeply, 10 years later, it still hurts. I have heard most of these sayings that you listed. I can't stand to be told those things, and to hear others say it to someone else suffering through this loss, it is almost unbearable to keep my mouth shut. So thanks for posting this, I too have been subjected to such words and they aren't necessary. Sometimes it is just enough to have someone there with you, you do'nt have to say anything. Take care!
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• United States
13 May 07
I know some people never get over the loss of a child. We have a family "secret" but once we all found out about it it make a lot of sense as to why my great-grandma was a female hater. She had 6 babies, 5 were girls. Her son passed away when he was around 5 months of age, but no one can really remember how. She never got over it. She had always acted mean towards all her daughters and their daughters and so on. I remember feeling very jealous when my male cousins received gifts and I didn't. After losing my child I can understand how it might effect her this way. She always blamed God and cursed him for giving her only daughters after Harry. She was pregnant with one the day she lost him and people kept telling her at least you have another on the way, that will help easy the pain. Wrong!, it made it worse and caused a lifetime of haterd. Grief can do bad things to a person, and bitterness is one of them.
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