Free Choice and Credit Cards - A recipe for disaster?

@Tetchie (2932)
Australia
May 15, 2007 12:53am CST
Have you noticed that Credit Cards are as easy to get as coffee at Starbucks! They get you into more trouble than you know how to get yourself out of, and keep you the victim of the finance companies and at the mercy of commercialism. If I was religious I'd call it Satan's work, harsh words there. How much financial trouble have you been in with your Credit Cards? How many do you have? Are you game to say how much you owe? Can you live without one? Do you have a Credit Card addiction, or honestly is it a spending addiction?
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17 responses
15 May 07
These wretched offers are the slippery slope to ruin, primarily because of the exhorbitant interest rates they all carry. I have two credit cards, one of which I have had for years now and has always been reasonable. The other card I got as it was linked to a *well-known UK supermarket chain* as it offered a good deal at the time and I could use it for my shopping and get the loyalty points as well. Little did I realise at the time the trouble I would get into with it. The interest rate suddenly went up and although I didn't use it often, I felt that I was always paying their bill. Then I lost my job and everything fell apart. My original credit card company were fantastic and have been amazingly helpful to me, while the supermarket card have been a nightmare to deal with and I have even received phone calls at 8am on a Sunday morning, demanding that I pay them immediately. I did the sensible thing with them, cut the card into little pieces and sent it back to them. Credit cards are far too easy to get and far too easy to use, now I steer well clear.
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
18 May 07
I've seen that happen in Australia as well and it's a recipe for disaster.
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
15 May 07
Thanks for sharing. There used to be qualifying criteria but somewhere that all went belly up. I think it's ethically irresponsible and the finance companies need to be liable for it. I have a friend who started out with a $1,000 limit which she could handle okay, she made her payments on time. Then because it looked fine to the Credit Card company they offered to increase her limit. This woman is on a pension. She filled out the form and got an increase, then in a years time they did it again and offered her a larger limit. Now she has a $6,000 debt. The crazy thing is that she would never have qualified for it in the first place. She is the stupid one as well for getting lured into that type of financial situation. Her thinking was that it would be good in case of an emergency and she was always using her family, her kids as the emergency. Yes, she is gullible, but who is the irresponsible party? The finance companies must make so much money out of them that anyone who ends up bankrupt is not an issue. It is an issue to the consumer but not to the finance company, they earn a fortune from them.
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@mummymo (23706)
17 May 07
You know what Tetchie here in the uk you do not have to fill out a form or sign anything, if you make your payments on time for a while - they write to you and tell you your limit has been raised - sometimes by thousands of pounds at a time! xxx
• United States
17 May 07
I don't have a real credit card, but my brother clued me in that the debit card from my checking account can be used for a credit card at times when you require one. He uses his, for instance when renting a hotel room. (They will tell him it isn't really a credit card, but then they take it anyway.) So I found that I could use mine for ordering things online. I recently purchased a service agreement with a cell phone, and my credit was no good because I don't owe any money! They wouldn't even take my check for the large deposit I had to put down, so I went to the bank and withdrew the cash. Years ago, they actually would send a credit card through the mail, inviting you to start using it. Now they just send an application.
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• United States
18 May 07
I'm glad you brought up store credit cards because I have a funny story about them. At least it was funny to me. I was waiting to pay for an item of clothing in a store and the counter person- no, that sounds like an unperson, the clerk was talking on the phone to a customer about the need to receive payment on their overdue account. Then she turned to me and asked if I had a *Blank* Card and if not, would I like to apply for one? She didn't understand why I laughed out loud, so I told her if I didn't have the money I just wouldn't..buy..the..clothes. She clearly thought I was unpatriotic.
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
17 May 07
Hi vidalias, Credit can be a difficult issue. If you've never had to borrow money then you don't get a credit rating. And without a credit rating you can't borrow money - stupid paradox. So why do so many retail department stores give out store cards like it was candy? That's so irresponsible I can't begin to tell you how immoral that is and I'd like to see it become illegal - it preys on the gullible. Situations like you stated with your cell phone are not easy, but you overcame it with good old cash. Now you will have a credit history by having a cell phone.
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@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
19 May 07
Man o man, LOL. It is an ingrained belief that Credit Cards are to be honored and cherished, and that every ma,n woman and child in America should have one, not to mention the debt that goes with it. It's like bowing down to false gods!
@Betso221 (1699)
• India
16 May 07
I have had a very bad experirnce with credit cards i think its a thing that one should not own, cause i was charged so much as interest that i was shocked everytime i had my statement in my hand, credit card is the worst way to shop it's better you ask someone for some money and pay them later on. Never get a Credit Card otherwise your life will be filled with credit.
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@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
16 May 07
It is the worst way to shop - how very true Betso. A life full of credit card debt is such a drag in a persons life.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
15 May 07
I've never had a problem with my credit cards. The only problem I've had was on a couple of occasions when I was out of work I needed to approach the bank for an extension on my personal loan repayments. I was not helped both times just given a week to come up with the money. (Pretty unfeeling if you ask me when the banks say if you have a problem let us know, don't ignore it and hope it will go away, so you tell them and they don't give you any help at all, greedy so and so's). I recently applied for a certain card that had a much lower interest rate than my two current cards and no annual fees. I've had a credit card for 34 years and never a problem. I'm a low income earner and they denied my request because of this. How silly...they would have checked my credit rating and seen my excellent credit rating so I just don't understand it.
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
17 May 07
Actually, there is nothing owing on my credit cards at the moment.
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
16 May 07
Hello Ms Tickle. Two parts to your post. Firstly that saying of the banks - if there is anything else I can do for you, don't hesitate to ask. Only applies to those they can make money out of. Not to blame the staff really, they are just doing their job, it's a generic term of politeness that has little substance! LOL. Secondly, if I was going to do the very best for you as a financial person (which I used to be) I would have given you a Personal Loan to pay off your credit cards and then cut them up and close them. And never given you a credit card again. I'm ruthless but you win in the end.
@demo3424 (598)
• India
16 May 07
i do not addicted to credit card because i don't have one.instead i use an ATM card to withdraw cash.i think credit card are good,but they can also be missused online by hackers.i prefer to shop online by paypal instead of credit card.
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@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
16 May 07
Good move demo, thanks for sharing.
@jackcin (73)
• United States
18 May 07
Personally I find it's harder to get coffee at starbucks that anything else in life. I sure as hell ain't ever waiting 30 minutes in a coffee line again.
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@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
19 May 07
HAHAHAHA, jackcin, funny one. I'm personally not a SB fan.
@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
15 May 07
I agree. They are to easy to get and alot of people get into alot of financial problems because of them. I seriously do not have a credit card right now. I took a decisionnot long ago to cut them all, pay them back and live a life without credit =)
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
16 May 07
Way to go Marie. Well done.
@sigma77 (5383)
• United States
16 May 07
I agree, they give them out like candy. It is too easy to get hooked on using them. Especially in this country where we are taught to own everything under the sun whether we can afford it or not. Once I get all mine paid off, I am getting rid of all of them forever. I don't have an addiction to spending, so I don't use them so much to buy things I don't need. Of course, the government is the perfect example of over-using credit since it owes trillions of dollars in debts and promises that will never be paid.
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@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
16 May 07
Out of control commercialism, yes. I must be out of the loop also because there used to be allot of regulation in giving out credit cards and the like. But obviously it's a free market where the gullible get caught again. I believe it's the credit companies that need to be accountable. But really the only way to get them back is to stop using their money. I sound like a hypocrite somewhat because I do have a Mastercard with a $4,000 limit. I have had it for around 25 years. But somehow I outsmarted them as it is totally fee free. I declined all the offers to get a new fandangled Gold Card with all the trimmings as I knew the marketing ploys. I stuck with what I had cause it was what I wanted and I knew the tricks. But I never use their money. I use my card overseas and I put my own money into it, like a bank account and use my funds instead. I never pay interest, I never pay fees and I after I paid the mortgage on my house, I never use money that's not mine. It's also my way of sticking it to them!!
• United States
15 May 07
My credit sucks thatnks to credit cards. I had really great credit a few years back. I blame it on my husband and his midlife crisis. He decided to take a few weeks off! He didn't want to set tile anymore. We didn't have high balance, but with no money coming in we had to rely on our credit cards. I actually believe my husband thought as the cards as winnings in the lottery or something. We managed to pay most of it back but than last year my son was hit by a car now I have a ton of medical bills on my credit. I'm not worried about it. I can't sue the guy who hit him because he only had $10.000 personal injury protection and nothing else.
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
16 May 07
That's a good analogy - winning the lottery. The excitement of getting one is just like that, moreso to the young and ignorant. Feels like you can have an endless spending spree. ...............And then whammo! Hey it's good to have you back lovely lady. Is your son on the mend, I hope as good as new. That must have been nasty times.
@steney (1418)
• Philippines
16 May 07
I'm fortunate that I haven't fallen into this trap. I know the power a card gives to the bearer. It's easy to just flash the card and buy anything to your heart's desire, and then later on face the problem of having to pay for the debt you accummulated. It makes one feel rich for a moment, but in gives people the reason to buy beyond their means and to acquire things they barely need. I've always refused to secure a credit card because I know I have a great tendency and possibility to lose control as I'm an impulsive shopper. It's something I definitely can live without.
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@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
16 May 07
So true, I know myself that I get into those shopping moods and I can't stop at just one piece of clothing. All the pleasure of new clothes is just dampened by debt - no thanks. You have your head screwed on the right way steney, wise woman.
@Anniedup (3651)
• Richards Bay, South Africa
15 May 07
Mine is definitely an addiction, to credit cards, I've got 3. The are so convenient, but I must say I have or rather my husband, has clipped my wings a bit. But I must shamelessly admit I love them!
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
15 May 07
If I were your husband I'd clip your credit cards and not your wings!
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@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
15 May 07
A big stick! LOL.
@Anniedup (3651)
• Richards Bay, South Africa
15 May 07
My husband shares the same view! lol!!! But there is no cure! :D
@mummymo (23706)
15 May 07
I have 3 and I am not addicted to shopping or credit cards but if I need to get the kids something or need to get groceries I would rather pay by credit card than take more money out of the bank than I end up needing (then I will squander the money) or end up not having taken enough out to cover what I want to buy! I pay most of the bills off at the end of each month and probably owe about 500 pounds in total but it is almost payment time again so in a week or so it will be less than half that!
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
15 May 07
Thanks mummymo, tell me to go jump if you wish but it's a bit like robbing Peter to pay Paul and you are paying interest for doing it too. It's always cheaper to use your own money. If I knew I had the money in my bank account but was left short of cash and had to use my credit card, I'd transfer funds as soon as I got home or found an ATM machine. I used to be a Bank Manager and allot of the loan requests were by young people wanting to pay off their high cost personal loans and credit cards. And I know that anything with Credit Card in the sentence of a finance company is never in the customers best interests, it's in the interests of the finance company. They don't care if you go bust because they have already got their pound of flesh in the interest rate.
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@mummymo (23706)
16 May 07
Of course I won't tell you to go jump sweet - I appreciate your advice! I don't keep a big balance but I know exactly what you mean! The good news is I haven't been able to go out much so I haven't used them in the last month or so so hopefully they will be totally clear in the next few months and I can go back to the way I used to be - paying off full amount as soon as I get the bill - that way I don't pay any interes and it is still very convenient! xxx
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
17 May 07
Thanks mummymo, I can get a bit pushy, kill people with kind intentions and sometimes I need the reigns put on. So pleased though that you stop relying on those darn things. Once your credit gets out of control it is so hard to reel it back in and it's really harmful to your standard of living. If all you have is debt, you take a big nosedive in the living stakes.
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@takkea (393)
• United States
20 May 07
Credit cards are not that easy to get. Well it wasnt for me. It took me a long time to get them. They become easy to get after you get the first one. The companies keep sending you cards when you get the first one. I can live without a credit card. It takes a lot of discipline.
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
21 May 07
We can all live without them, somehow someone told us we couldn't! Thanks for responding takkea.
• India
15 May 07
well well well, 22 years so far and am yet to use a card..... well, that i get the money i need from my parents, always, is a different issue...but though it sounds fun n easy and a "so called" symbol of independance, a card is a liability it seems.......
@tigertang (1749)
• Singapore
15 May 07
The card is definately a danger if you don't know how to use it. Used to have one when Daddy was paying the bills. Kills your ability to manage your money because somehow it doesn't seem like real money when all you have to do is to sign on the dotted line instead.-best forget the status symbol and go for good old fashioned cash - you either have it or you don't
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
16 May 07
Wise words tigertang. How paradoxical too, yes the card is a liability yet it is sold to you in the guise of an asset! Here's hoping you can go another 22 years without one.
@Tanya8 (1733)
• Canada
15 May 07
My parents were pretty good about teaching me about money. They never carried a balance on their credit cards, and put a lot of effort into paying down their mortgage so that they could reduce some of the interest they'd have to pay in the long run. Then, when I was a student, I worked in the credit department of a large department store. It really showed me first hand how easy it could be to get into trouble with credit. Department stores charge a crazy amount of interest (28% at the place I was was working). I was offered a card, as part of my employment, but I cut it up right away. I'd never want to risk missing a payment (one day is all it takes) and owing that kind of interest on the entire balance.
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
15 May 07
You know first hand and well done for cutting up the little sucker! Did you have to apply for it or did they just hand it to you?
@pawaree (34)
• India
15 May 07
ya for me also this credit card is also just a spoiler.it tempts you into buying stuffs in which you are least interested but are lured by the credit card offers and in the end you make a fool of yourself
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
16 May 07
For sure and it's just not worth the anguish of all that debt. And the things you bought you don't really care about either. But of course that's not the finance companies problem is it!
@Sherry12 (2472)
• United States
15 May 07
I hate credit cards. They are one of the worst things to ever get. I have totally quit using them. We're working very hard to pay off the balances on our cards. You don't even want to know how much we owe - it is that bad. I'm not addicted to them, but it is just too easy to need something and put it on the credit card and think by next month I'll have enough to pay it off. Except, next month you have the same bills and find you can only make the minimum payment. We've went a year without putting anything on a credit card and hopefully we will get them paid off in the next 5 years. I'm really trying to get them paid sooner then that.
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
15 May 07
Well done Sherry. They are a terrible trap and so many people are doing just what you are having to do.