Today's kids...

@twoey68 (13627)
United States
May 15, 2007 11:35pm CST
Ok, I really need an opinion on this one. I have a niece who just turned 12, I don't see alot of her b/c she hangs around with girls her own age. The other day she went with my Mom and I to the store and although I love her dearly, she has turned into a rude obnoxious child. She demands ppl do things rather than ask, she picks things up in the store and demands you buy it for her and screams at you if you don't and whenever you say anything she doesn't like she declares OH MY GOD in a tone of voice that leaves no doubt you are the stupidest person to ever grace the planet. I had the uncontrollable urge to smack her in the mouth. She is the daughter to my oldest brother and when I mentioned to him that she needed to work on her manners he told me that all kids are like that and it isn't like when we were kids. Had I ever behaved that way, I would have been reminded of manners in the woodshed by my father...and God forbid if my grandfather had gotten hold of me. It wasn't just me she was like this with but also my mom and my brother. My husband and I had foster kids for 2 years and never had this problem. Is it true...are all kids like this now?? If so, I am so glad I grew up when I did and that I don't have kids of my own. Personally I think she acts this way b/c he lets her. My nephew (the same brother's son) is completely opposite.
9 people like this
38 responses
@biwasaki (1745)
• United States
16 May 07
I don't believe that all kids are like that. I think a child's behavior is a result of the parenting, or lack thereof, that he/she receives. I can't believe that any parent would allow their child to behave in that manner. When I was growing up, disrespecting an adult or talking back was not tolerated under any circumstances.
• United States
16 May 07
your absolutely right. like i stated kids only get away with what you allow them to get away with when i was growing up we were not allow to disrespect any adult at all. but now a days gets have to many rights and they know that.
2 people like this
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
22 May 07
I agree...I believe it comes from the upbringing. Thank you both for responding. LIVE IN PEACE
• United States
16 May 07
Well I can say a lot of kids are like this these days BUT the thing is parents need to discipline more my mother always punished me by spanking me/grounding me.I can say from experience that it made me not turn around and scream at everyone it actually made me alot more respectful to everyone and i"m only 16.I have to say that I think all kids need this form of punishment.(No matter what the ACLU thinks about it)
2 people like this
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
8 Apr 08
You are right. We had a foster girl that came into foster care b/c she told her teacher that her dad hit her. The dad had to go to court several times, hire a lawyer and pay a fine...it turned out in the end that he had never laid a hand on her. She'd only said it b/c her friends told her that foster care was great and they'd let her do what she wanted. She admited all this when she found out what foster care really was like and wanted to go back home. DFS refused to send her home and last I heard she was in a girls group home. Thank you for responding! **AT PEACE WITHIN** ~~STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS~~
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
22 May 07
I also don't think spanking or grounding a child hurts them in any way. Thank you for responding. LIVE IN PEACE
1 person likes this
@RosieS57 (889)
• United States
28 Aug 07
Unless you have an attorney on retainer it's not a good idea to spank your kid. A whole lot of school couselors these days delight in nothing more than siccing the Department of Children and Families on parents. If you do have a legal plan it tends to make DCF disappear because they must have a very strong case to drag you in front of a judge if you're represented. If not, they can make your life very miserable and the kids who act up and want to boos parents around know this. They say you can't punish them because they'll tell on you in school and you'll be reported. And it's true -- you have NO recourse at all against school officials (mainly counselors) who love to harass parents.
2 people like this
• United States
16 May 07
Yes I am afraid that lot of children these days are pampered and let have they own way far to often. My Son has chores and he gets grounded with privileges taken away for having a C on his report card. Some of his friends think it is outrageous that he must earn his spending money. Even with that he still has no idea of what "REAL" chores are. I would be mortified if he talked to me the way some of the kids I see in his group talk to their parents. I don't get it. How are children ever to grow up and be responsible well adjusted adults if we do not teach them from the beginning how to be?
2 people like this
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
22 May 07
I agree how will they know what is right and wrong if we don't teach them. Thank you for responding. LIVE IN PEACE
@cassidy22 (2974)
• United States
28 Aug 07
Kids are more demanding these days, and there are different reasons for that. A higher percentage of houses where both parents work, or parents are divorced, and they don't want to spend the precious few moments they have with their kids reprimanding them. It's a guilt complex. Parents want their kids to "like" them. Kids aren't getting disciplined as much as maybe we were. But you had the opportunity to talk to her - or tell her if she couldn't be polite to store clerks or YOU, that you would leave, then and there. The other difference is kids now live in a RIGHT NOW society. If they want to talk to someone, they can call on a cell phone or text them, RIGHT NOW. They play video games instead of waiting to play with friends in the neighborhood. everything happens so fast, they don't know how to wait. Fast food. Electronics. Cell Phones. They can have whatever they want in an instant. Ultimately, our society is going to be destroyed by kids not being taught to behave. they will eventually learn the hard way, when it's too late. When they get fired from their first job out of college, or whatever. it's a disastor waiting to happen, but NOT EVERY parent is raising their kids this way. there are some who still teach manners and patience
2 people like this
• United States
17 May 07
she i either hanging out with the wrong crowd or has learned to scream when she wants something and that she will get something. she needs to be smacked, and lectured for atleast 2 hours untill she learns how to act. my sister was acting like that before, when she was 16. she didnt take stuff from anyone. up untill my parents got sick of it. my dad spanked her and she waa 16. he told her what she was doing wrong and that she better straiten up or he is disconnecting her cellphone, and making her ride the bus to and from school. she would do double the amount of chores, and no tv, computer, playstation, unless it is with the rest of the family. now my fiance's sister is 13 and she is just as bad as your neice twoey68, eversince she got into this local modeling, she has been acting like everything else doesnt matter, and what she says goes. her parents are divorce so when her mom cant get her to straiten up, she calls her dad, and she gets a long lecture from him.
2 people like this
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
22 May 07
It was great that your parents put a stop to it. Good luck with your fiance's sister. Thank you for responding. LIVE IN PEACE
@sodapop (977)
• United States
16 May 07
No not all kids are like that today. All three of my kids have been taught manners, which is what it sounds like your niece is lacking. It's not the age either, it's the upbringing. You are right, she is like this because she gets away with it. With my kids they have been taught from day one to have good manners, education is very important, and nobody owes you anything. They know no means no and they drop it. But it took a lot of work to get them this way. It's work and time and maybe they don't want to put the time into it.
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
22 May 07
It's nice to know they aren't all like that. Thank you for responding. LIVE IN PEACE
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
25 Aug 07
I agree...I think not only does the child have to put the effort into education but that the parent has to guide them as well. Thank you for posting!! AT PEACE WITHIN
• United States
22 May 07
Your right all kids are not like that today but it all has to do with the parents. If you have spoiled your child from the age of one and you never told that child no then yes of course whenever you do decide to say no its going to hard to do. Education is very important same thing I tell my children I let them know that you can shoot for the stars and if you finish your education college included than you can actually grasp a star. Your absolutely right nobody owes you anything.
1 person likes this
• United States
9 Sep 07
Kids today are so spoiled and a lot of parents are afraid to discipline them due to our lovely government stepping in making laws that forbid us to spank our kids. The kids know this and they're very smart, so they act upon it by taking advantage of the situation. I think the only way to deal with them without getting into legal trouble is to put them in their room and remove everything that's in it, AFTER nailing their window shut. The problem is, it's too much trouble to go through so many just let the kids slide. No wonder she's the way she is with a comment like "all kids are like that". No, not all of them. I don't blame you for wanting to smack her. I know I would of gotten smacked right there in the middle of the store when I was a kid.
• Canada
16 May 07
OHHHHH she is definately acting that way because he lets her and no other reason. If kids are told NO then they start to realize that they can't get away with murder but then there are kids who do anything they want and never get punished when they are doing something wrong and in a way i think that is abuse you are teaching your child that if you want something just take it and those kids are going to be the ones who end up in jail. It really sux that people can be so blinded by their kids. I am a mother of 2 small kids and if they ever decided to talk to me that way (when they are older of course) they will be put back in their place
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
22 May 07
I agree...I think if you are going to be a parent you have an obligation to raise them right. Thank you for responding. LIVE IN PEACE
• United States
28 Aug 07
I don't think that all kids are like that but these days parents are afraid to discipline their kids. Rather they think that disciplining a child means hitting or smacking them and since you can't do that these days , they don't discipline them at all. Or they want to be their child's friend so they don't sat no.I am so glad I am not a parent too especially these days.
1 person likes this
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
30 Aug 07
I think it is also a matter of wanting to be their friend instead of their parent. Although I love my niece and nephew, I am glad that I don't have a child growing up in this world today. Thanks for posting!! AT PEACE WITHIN
1 person likes this
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
30 Aug 07
Sure they are like that..if they are allowed to be like that. If she is not taught to behave better and gets away with acting like that, she will continue to do so. I would have left the mall, telling her I consider her behavior to be unacceptable.
1 person likes this
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
30 Aug 07
Well, she is pretty much doing whatever she wants and my brother just doesn't want to deal with her. Other than her friends, no one hardly sees her anymore. Thanks for posting!! AT PEACE WITHIN
• United States
19 May 07
I don't believe that all kids are like this. I have a 9, 11 and 12 year old grandkids. They are all well behaved and courteous to all. They don't go into stores and do the things you say she does. The way she is is directly a result of her upbringing. A certain amount of what she does is expected because of her age but the majority is because she is allowed to do it at home and doesn't have to pay any consequences. If he doesn't take care of this now he will have his hands even more full as she grows older.
1 person likes this
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
22 May 07
I know he is going to have no control if he doesn't do something soon. Thank you for responding. LIVE IN PEACE
@KATRINKA (1624)
• United States
30 Aug 07
No, all kids are not like that. Only the brats are. I have instilled in my children from the time they were very young the proper manners. Sometimes I have to correct them, but for the most part, they're well-mannered. People remark about how polite they are. When other kids come to my house, and they don't show proper manners, I tell them about it. I don't have any qualms about doing so. My house, my rules. And the kids come back to visit, so I guess I'm not an ogre. A child's age is never a reason for bad behavior. I just don't put up with it.
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
30 Aug 07
When I was a foster parent, I was the same way. I wouldn't put up with any of that type of behavior. My brother doesn't care how she acts...which is why she is that way. Thanks for posting!! AT PEACE WITHIN
@miamilady (4910)
• United States
26 Aug 07
No, not "all" kids are like that. Some are worse than others. My kids are not perfect by any means but they certainly don't demand that their relatives buy them things. They try it with me sometimes, but that's when they can most count on NOT getting what they want. As I mentioned in your other discussion, my kids don't have the greatest manners, but they aren't as outwardly rude as the example you gave of your niece. I have a niece, who I also love dearly. She borders on the rudeness that you described. My sister had the same answer as your brother. "kids these days". Sorry, a parent may not be able to make their child act perfectly, but the least they can do, is correct them. Teach them the difference between right and wrong. I do that much. I don't just shrug it off as "kids these days". I tell them when they are being rude and depending on the circumstances I will punish them. I'm embarrassed, that they still have issues with how to behave in public, but I'm still trying...We left a sub shop a few weeks ago because they were fighting with eachother and making a scene. I told them people were trying to eat and we left.
1 person likes this
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
30 Aug 07
Good for you!! Thats what I would have done and have done with foster kids. I think sometimes parents think it's too much trouble to correct their kids. Thanks for posting!! AT PEACE WITHIN
@brendakaya (2332)
• United States
30 Aug 07
No, all kids are not like that. However, I know there are alot of them, that are. Sometimes, I'll see kids out in public, and they are so loud and obnoxious, and I'm embarassed for them, and they are not mine. I am so glad that mine turned out ok, even though, a couple of them had their moments. Hopefully your niece will grow up and start acting better, soon. If she don't, then just don't offer to take her with you anywhere. lol
1 person likes this
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
30 Aug 07
Thats pretty much how it is now. Other than her friends, we mostly don't see her. Thanks for posting!! AT PEACE WITHIN
@loved1 (5328)
• United States
16 May 07
I feel for you. All children are not like that, but it seems like most of them are these days. My oldest child is 11 and I am having a really hard time with her picking up this kind of behavior at school. I had to sit her down and tell her that just because everyone else acts that way, it does not mean it is ok for her to do the same. I explained that I love her too much to allow her to become disrespectful and mouthy. Unfortunately, you can't control how other people raise their children. You can, however, choose to spend less time with them and tell them why you are making that choice. If I were you I would tell my brother that I don't enjoy his daughter's company at this point in time because she is so disrespectful. You can find a kind way to tell him that and explain that if she wants to change her attitude, she is welcome to come around again. Would you spend time with an adult who made you feel this way? I wouldn't. The other thing you can do is establish rules for your home. I don't allow my children or my daycare children to display that kind of behavior in my house. I am sure that makes me sound like some sort of mean dictator, which is not the case. I just have to tell them they need to save that kind of talk for their own homes if that is what their parents allow. The golden rule is treat others the way you would like to be treated. When they get mouthy I ask them how they would feel if someone spoke to them with that kind of disrespect. They deserve to be treated with respect and they are required to treat others the same way or I refuse to be around them. More parents are going to have to adopt this attitude or things are just going to get worse.
1 person likes this
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
22 May 07
I applaud you for sitting down with your child to correct this problem. Thank you for responding. LIVE IN PEACE
@Gemmygirl1 (2867)
• Australia
16 May 07
Nope, i don't think all kids are like that, they only end up that way if you let them get away with being like that! I have a 2nd cousin who is now 11 (i think), anyway, she's such a great kids, friendly, quiet, has good manners & is an all round nice kid. Her mum is a single mum (my cousin) & although she was a bit of a terror, my 2nd cousin has still grown up being very sweet & respectful. I think your brother just doesn't want to take responsibility for the way his daughter is - by him allowing his daughter to act that way. She never learnt good manners or anything & he'd rather just convince himself they're all like it so he doesn't feel like a failure. I hope that makes sense :)
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
22 May 07
It makes sense lol. Thank you for responding. LIVE IN PEACE
@eyewitness (1575)
• Netherlands
16 May 07
No not all kids are like that.Let me tell you if myfather would find out that we were rude he would get so mad and he would punish us so we would behave good.And looking at our family now we have better manners than people who say all children are like that or nowadays a lot of people say my children is not like that. So if he says that he's just denying it.He doesn't want to see the truth that girl needs to be better mannered.
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
22 May 07
I agree...my dad was the same way. Thank you for responding. LIVE IN PEACE
@palonghorn (5479)
• United States
16 May 07
She acts that way because he sends the (loud and clear) message that it is okay. If she had demanded anything from me........I would have demanded her butt right out to the car and she would have sat there. I'd tell her if she wants to act like a 3 yr old, she will be treated like a 3 yr old. I would also tell your brother that, if he wants to let her act like that in his house/presence fine, but let it be known she will not act like that in your presence. Not all kids are like that, however around that age they are going to start to try to push buttons and you either let them and ignore it or you set boundries.
1 person likes this
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
22 May 07
Thank you so much for the advice and thank you for responding. LIVE IN PEACE
• United States
16 May 07
I'm not sure if its all 12 year olds I have a 13 year old boy and he can get rather mouthy and when he does I check him right then and there. Because if they talk to you any oh kinda way than you know that they are probably talking to their teachers the same way. I told my son that he does not have to raise his voice when he talks to me I am not a child and he will respect me. And if I was you I would've smacked her in her mouth and dealt with my brother later. Kids only do what you allow them to get away with so she probably talks to her mother and everyone else the same way. Thats the problem today with kids they have no morals or values. Everyone wants to be a adult before their times and parents don't want to be parents.
1 person likes this
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
22 May 07
I would never slap another persons child no matter how upset I am...though I can see your point. Thank you for responding. LIVE IN PEACE
• United States
16 May 07
Just to affirm what everyone else has said, it is not this way with all kids. But I think you'll find that the harsher an adult of the former generation was disciplined, the more lenient they'll be with their own children. And vice versa. It happens periodically throughout the generations and has a direct impact on social and political systems as well. It all starts in the family. So a remedy for this is moderation in everything, both punishment and reward.
1 person likes this
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
22 May 07
Well I am glad to know that not kids are like this. Thank you for responding. LIVE IN PEACE