so u think you can tell heavn from hell? truth,brainwashing,ignorance & children
@fightingistheonlyway (2658)
Canada
May 19, 2007 6:10pm CST
my rant against religion:srry if i offend you
do you know how to get into heaven/hell?
what is/are the deciding factor(s) that decide your fate?
so many of us are brainwashed into thinking that their religion is the "absolute truth"..
please, there are so many religions out their that even THINKING that your religion is the absolute right one is a form of ignorance.
the only reason you are the religion you are today is because of geography, you were born in that type of family or you were fortunate enough to find what you think is the "right path" whether it is Christianity, Atheism or Islam.
now, im not saying that if your born into something and you dont question it your brainwashed, wait, i am saying that. if you are born into something and you dont question it (or get vague, unclear, nonsensible answers) and you still go along with it, you are basicly brainwashed.
some people like to be brainwashed, it gives them a sense of hope and a light at the end of the tunnel, so they go through life passivly, never looking back, sometimes looking ahead and never looking at the big picture.
now, i dont meen to come on too strong or rude, but, i guess just feel sorry for people who live there life for the afterlife which will probably never happen.
i feel sorry for people who think jesus will save them.
i feel sorry for people who think jesus will save anyone who believes in them, from murders and rapests to hitler and osama, even tho its obviously a way to create power in the church.
i feel sorry for people who read the bible out of context and use it for there own political benifats.
i feel sorry for muslims who blow themselves up to be praised by there country, family and so called religion.
i feel sorry for people who deny evolution, why not deny the theory of gravity as well?
i feel sorry for the people who dont wake up and smell the roses.
and i feel sorry for all those people, especialy vulrinble children, beleiving in this crap.
so please, if you believe in religion thats fine, but dont enforce it on anyone, especialy your children. if you believe that god has a plan for everyone then why not let your child find jesus or moses or muhamad by himself? why not let them find their own path? after all, its gods way isnt it?
and someone please explain to me, when good things happen all the time, or when bad things happen all the time, the result is always numbness.
so what is the diffrence between heaven and hell?
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@Wingedman (238)
• United States
20 May 07
The biggest problem with religion is that everyone has an opinion about your faith or your spirituality and to the very last one they are WRONG!
It doesn't matter what their intentions are, be they benign or malevolet, they are WRONG!
The only person that can truly tell you anything about your spiritual well being, what you will be in the next life or if you will live in a mansion or a cardboard box in heaven or hell is YOU!
Belief is wonderful, it is a fantastic gift that you give yourself. It is an opportunity to express yourself to the wonders of the world. Believe in yourself and you will believe in God. Believe in the wondersthat abound in the cosmos and you believe in God.
You don't need the formality of a dogmatic religion to tell you waht to do to reach heaven or to burn in hell. Because they are WRONG! Religion, belief, spituality your very own soul are SO PERSONAL that ONLY YOU have the answers.
The Eastern religions have been closer to these truths than those of us in the West for so long. They understand that the tre path of Spirit lies not outside of us in some lordly omnipotent deity, but within ourselves and our relationship to the cosmos.
I have no problem with Faith, with belief, or with things of the spirit. It is when someone tries to tell you HOW or WHY that I feel compelled to tell them. YOU HAVE NO FRAME OF REFERENCE. YOU are NOT ME, therefore YOU do not have the foggiest notion of WHO I AM, WHAT I am SEEKING, or HOW I will get there. Leave me alone and tend your own garden first.
There are good things in the bible. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". I would say something simliar. "Let he who truly knows his own spiritual destiny be the first to deign to teach others theirs".
@fightingistheonlyway (2658)
• Canada
20 May 07
i ask you this, what is religion without god, spirit and morals?
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@fightingistheonlyway (2658)
• Canada
21 May 07
actually budhists have also started wars, and so have hindus...
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@Wingedman (238)
• United States
20 May 07
Religion is about control. It is not about faith, spirituality or anythig you really want to be involved with. Religion was created to keep the masses in line. Something that could be held over their heads to make them obey for fear of everlasting damnation or at least that is what we think in the west. Please note that Eastern "religions" do not have Gods as such. It is also more of a veneration and respect than worship. The great icons of Buddhism, Hinduism, etc. lead by example not through force or prosletylizing.
@write2adaline (98)
• United States
20 May 07
After posting my comment under someone else's I went back and reread your post, and decided I would like to say a few things myself.
You are asking people to not enforce their religion on others, but it comes across as if you are pushing your lack thereof onto us. If not, you could have simply left your thoughts unsaid in the manner with which you have criticized religion, parents and our basic belief systems.
You also have said that you feel sorry for people who think Jesus will save them. And you feel sorry for people who live for the afterlife. You said some people like to be brainwashed because it gives them a sense of hope and a light at the end of the tunnel. Then you admit in your reply to another commenter that we will find out when we die...so you don't know if there is an afterlife either, and I believe you are simply finding hope in the fact that you are not afraid of God. You did say you were unafraid of God. So if you find hope in one thing, how can you criticize others for finding hope in their faith?
I personally think that with your statements, its all a little confusing. You aren't afraid of God, so you must believe there is one. You are unsure of the afterlife, but you don't seem to think we should live for one.
You don't think we should raise our children to follow our faiths, however, what kind of Christian, Muslim, or any other religious person would we be if we did not believe in it enough to pass it on. I am a Christian, and I believe that it is my duty to make sure my children learn that. I won't FORCE them to be Christians, but to say I am one, and not present it to my own children would be hypocritical of me. In fact, my children will know that if they only follow ANY religion for another person on earth, it will do them no good. They must accept Christ for themselves.
And God bless wifeofharvey for pointing out that TRUE Christians don't follow a "religion", we follow a man, God incarnate, sent to earth to walk among us and die for our sins. And I believe that it is safe to say she isnt living for the afterlife, but for her God. Kudos to you!
@fightingistheonlyway (2658)
• Canada
21 May 07
if jesus is god, a human is god, therfore all humans are god.
if jesus is god, and god is immortal, how did jesus die.
its actually very easy to debunk god[especially when you involve jesus], but i said it wasnt for the sake of the arguement.
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@fightingistheonlyway (2658)
• Canada
23 May 07
arite, i understand where ur comming from but..
if its like that, we should all be immortal because we all suposidly have souls rite?
so we are all immortals traped in mortal bodies.. if what ur saying is true.
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@write2adaline (98)
• United States
23 May 07
Thank you for listening. And ya know what? You are exactly right!! We all do have immortal souls. Our bodies are earthly, will die and decay just like the body of Jesus, but our souls will spend eternity somewhere...heaven or hell. Our eternal destination is determined by our willingness to accept Christ as Savior. If we accept Christ as Savior and Lord of our lives, we will indeed spend eternity in Heaven with him. If we do not, our souls will eternally be in hell - seperated from God. It isn't necessarily "logical" but that is indeed where faith comes into play. Here on earth we will never fully understand God's plan nor His ways, but we have to accept by faith.
