What happened to the Democrats?

United States
May 23, 2007 9:12pm CST
I like to watch the spin that our elected people put on different things. Nothing ever seems to change. As far as I am concerned politicians are full of nothing. They say what you want to hear just to get elected. Then all bets are off. This goes for both parties. So what happened to the "mandate" that the Democratic party got from the American public? Why have they caved to the whim of the administration and not stood up for what most of the public wants?Is it politics as usual or does George Bush have them all in a vice?
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@Destiny007 (5819)
• United States
26 May 07
The democrats did not have much choice. They had already tried to defund the war which would have put an immediate end to it...if they had enough votes to override Bush's veto on that, and we all know that would have been vetoed. As it is, they did not even have enough votes to get it out of the house, never mind to the senate. That meant that they had to find a way to fund the war while still having some sense of having had a say in how it was going to be funded. They had already tried a couple of times to push a bill with time limits, and those had both been vetoed...again with not enough votes to override the veto. The funding was going to run out very soon, and it was either do emergency funding repeatedly, or send Bush a bill that he would agree to...which they finally did. If they had let the funding lapse without a new funding bill, they would have then been known as the party who turned their backs on our own troops in a time of war. As angry and impatient as people are with this war,they would have been even angrier with the democrats for having done that, and the coming election would have been disastrous for them. Bush had them in a corner and they knew it. Everyone is talking about Bush's approval ratings, but take a look at Congress' approval ratings. They are just as bad as Bush's, and even lower...depending on the news source. Bush can't be elected again, so why should he care what his ratings are? Congress is a different story, and if they want to be re-elected, then they had better take care of our troops.
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• United States
26 May 07
Very well said. You are right about Bush. I wonder why nore people do not look closer and our elected officials.The Senate and House come up with some really stupid things. And of course the good old boy system still exists. All the bills that they put forward are so full of little additions that our legislative system is silly. And they get paid big bucks from us to do this. Maybe we should go to line item veto.
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• United States
26 May 07
About the Line Item Veto...nearly every president prior to Clinton wanted a line item veto badly. It finally passed while Clinton was in office. The very first time that Clinton used it, one of the democrats led a challenge against it, and the Supreme Court declared it unconstitutional. So we finally got that, and the democrats challenged it, against a democrat president. For all of their talk about cutting waste and spending, the democrats deprived the president of the final say in pork spending that would allow otherwise good bills from being vetoed. What would have happened if Bush had a line item when the first funding bill had hit his desk with all of the included junk that made him veto the bill? The troops would have been funded and the US could have been saved al of the drama that we witnessed, and the democrats could have told the voters,"look, we tried to put time limits in, but the president lined through them" or whatever the case would have been. All the line item veto would have done was streamline the lawmaking process, and in the end the president would truly be responsible for any laws passed, and it would eliminate all of the deal making and everything else that happens when trying to pass laws.
• United States
5 Jun 07
Well said. This is an example of why I dont believe politicians. Used car salesmen have more on the ball.
@eaforeman6 (8983)
• United States
24 May 07
i think they need to quit worrying about whos in whos party or what party is better then the other one. Its a mud slinging contest insteead of focus just being on who and what is really best for the country.
• United States
24 May 07
Thank you! Best for the Country! You are so right. All of these people are supposed to represent us. They want us to respond to them or call on them for help. Somehow I think they smile at us, get on the plane to Washington (at our expense) and forget who put them in office and why.
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@gardengrrl (1445)
• United States
25 May 07
Our elections are little more than pandering contests, decided by who comes up with the better slogan/image/concept to scare the people onto their side. The still-"Silent Majority" is so busy stuffing itself with super-size fast food while they drive their Big-Pig-Mobiles to the mall to run up their credit cards some more, they can't be bothered! Collapse of our society? WHO CARES, there's a sale at JC Penney's!
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• United States
26 May 07
I agree!
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• United States
29 May 07
There is no debate that Americans are image driven. The sad part is that the will of the people and our so called "National Interests" dont even know each other. The Republicans are well known for their war mongering ways, and we elected Democrats on the promise that they would fight the Imperialistic Bushies all the way...that was on a recent Friday. By the next tuesday..the cowards gave bush BILLIONS to continue to fight this illegal, immoral war. This country will never change unless we, the American people change it.
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@gberlin (3836)
26 May 07
The people with real power are not the politicians so I don't mind if they like to play games and make themselves look foolish. The american people grow tired of their antics and this may prove itself once again with low voter turnout. The US ranks as one of the lowest in voter participation. That is a shameful thing and I am sure that our forefathers would be digusted with our casualness about politics. I also think that they would be ashamed of how our current politicians seem to work more for themselves instead of for their constituents.
• United States
29 May 07
Yeah we do have low turnout. But what gets me is that nothing ever changes. No matter which party is in power there is so much stuff going on that the voters are unaware of it is shameful.Yet we continue to fall for the slick talking, pie in the sky, promise everything to get elected then we get hit with reality. We've been suckered again.
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@gberlin (3836)
29 May 07
And that is how the game is played!