Should animal dissection be banned from a students grade ?

Canada
June 2, 2007 11:25am CST
Why is it that when you get in high school that part of your mark for a certain subject relies on the fact that you dissect something , usually a frog ? Should a student really have to take part in something such as this if they strongly agree ? I remember when I was in high school we had to dissect a frog , I simply couldn't do it and wasn't a very strong student and if I refused to do this then I would fail that grade ? I didn't take part and did fail my course but am wondering why this is compulsory in school . I can honestly say since I have been out of school , I have never once had to dissect and animal . What are your thoughts on this and why ?
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@iceburn (53)
• Philippines
3 Jun 07
These animal cruelties has to stop!!! I remember during my hiogh school Biology Class we each had to dissect a frog. We were instructed to puncture the frog in the neck to supposedly paralyze him so we could proceed on dissecting him while he was still alive. I felt so guilty but still did it all for the sake of getting a high grade. It wasn't even for the sake of learning since honestly I didn't learned anything from that experience. Whatever I was supposed to learned I could have learned form textbooks and other multimedia programs. It got worse during the next year in my Advance Biology Class where we were required to dissect a cat as a group.I have lots of pet cats at home but NEVER would I kill any of them let alone dissect them. I lo0ve them. Eventually some of our groupmates were able to buy a cat from an underground dealer who catches both stray and house cats to sell them to med students for their "study". Anyway as our group was dissecting the poor cat we found out the cat was pregnant. So we not only MURDERED the cat but also her 4 kittens who were about to be born in just a few more weeks according to out teacher. As high school we murdered one frog each and a cat plus her 4 kittens per group all for the sake of getting a high grade. Now I can only imagine how many of these poor defenseless animals are MURDERED by medical students every year all for the sake of a barbaric education that only a few of them actually become full pledged and deserving doctors and nurses.
• Canada
3 Jun 07
That is horrible !! I thought it was awful that we were expected to disect a frog and I believe worms and couldn't do it . I would still be having nightmares if I had did it even though I don't like frogs , I couldn't imagine hurting one . I can't believe they made you do a cat , I can understand why you are so upset as I would have been very upset over this as well . I am suprised there were not a lot of students refusing to this as a cat is a well known pet . Thank your very much for sharing :)
@Karmalina (647)
• Australia
2 Jun 07
With all the software available these days I don't think it's necessary for anyone other than medical students to dissect anything. Recently my friend who has pet rats had to dissect one. She cried and I felt so sorry for her.
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• Canada
3 Jun 07
I know that there was no way I could do this no matter what the reason , my stomach would never be able to handle it lol . Thank you for your response .
@rusty2rusty (6751)
• Defiance, Ohio
3 Jun 07
I remember having to disect a worm in the eight grade. needless to say I refused to touch it and recived a failing grade. I really don't care that I failed. I don't see why we as kids were forced to do such a thing in the first place. I have never dissected an animal in my life nor do I plan to. Now if someone was studying to be a vet or doctor. Something along those lines. I can understand the need to dissect an animal to learn where everything is at. But I don't have the heart to do it. That is why I didn't choose a profession along those lines.
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
3 Jun 07
We had to do a lot of disecting of animals in biology class, we weren't limited to just frogs. I don't neccessarily agree with doing it or not doing it but the thing is now a days they can do it via a computer. It's all done with computer graphics. It's up to the school though to get the software and set it up. So if your child cannot or doesn't want to do it then I would suggest you get with the school board and see about getting the virtual disection equipment. If you can get other parents involved as well to see about getting it switched over.
@priya_ot (72)
3 Jun 07
no i don't think thats actually necessary...how many of the students do take up biology later...they don't yet harmless animals are killed for the sake of knowledge which can be imparted by other methods...
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@castleghost (1304)
• United States
3 Jun 07
I never did understand why they made us dissect worms and frogs in school. I didn't plan on being a vet so I saw no reason why I needed to know how to dissect an animal. If they really feel the need to teach the children how to dissect some creature then they should use the computer program that is available for them to dissect a creature without actually having to touch it.
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• Canada
3 Jun 07
I would not like to do this and do not think you shoudl have to cut up frogs or anything in school . I think this is wrong . I have a frog and I keep him in a container and I feed him and I love him a lot . I feed him bugs and play with him . I let him go in the summer and get another one and don't want to cut one up .
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• United States
3 Jun 07
NO, i do NOT think a student should be required to do dissection. i think it most definitely shoul dbe banned from grades. There is so much technology out there that there are electronic diagrams of dissections. i think that if teacher required dissection, this should be made available to students who do not believe in this horrendous activity. i refused to dissect because i think it is animal cruelty.
@cdparazo (5765)
• Philippines
3 Jun 07
I don't agree with that either. I went through high school and college without dissecting anything yet I was able to learn what is there to learn. It is just meant to torture the students who has such sensitive disposition. I won't allow my daughter to dissect anything too. Who knows what germs or viruses she can get from there.
• Canada
3 Jun 07
I think that this is wrong and it is crualty to animals , I dont believe that a student should be made to do something like this if they do not feel it is rite. I know that if I was ever supposed to do this I wouldnt and I would risk the chance of failing for it, It is just wrong and I don't agree with it.
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@raci05 (9)
• Philippines
3 Jun 07
Well, since frogs are not endangered, i'm not against with it. I guess there's nothing wrong with it... I mean it's fun and I could understand more about anatomy if i got to see how those parts really look like and how those parts function
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3 Jun 07
Well I am from the UK and that sort of thing does not happen here. I would not do it even if it did take place here. Don't think its necessary. i'd probably set the frogs free. You can learn biology without cutting things up in the classroom. I mean they teach human biology and they don't dissect humans at school, at least I hope they don't.
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@golfproo (1839)
• Canada
3 Jun 07
I have always had difficulty with the process of dissecting an animal in school. I do believe the age is too young to be doing this. Kids typically do not know what they want to do with their lives when they are this age. Save this type of stuff for University if that is an area they choose to go. My thoughts anyways, cheers,
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• United States
3 Jun 07
I'm fine with them. If it's better for the learning experience for children and teens, I would like it. Just as long as it doesn't go along the lines of exposing the animal, killing the animal when alive, or to do something overly perverted to it.
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• Philippines
3 Jun 07
certainly noy...it's just a part of human experience
• United States
15 Jun 07
Thankfully I've never had to take part in the action myself. I've been involved in the process, but each student was not required to dissect anything. We were put into groups, and the braver of the students was the one that actually did the cutting and what not. Those that did not wish to participate only had to sit by and watch the process, as this was still a grade. If we did not want to do it, but were there for the class we still passed the class. I still feel it should be completely optional, and if students do not want to do it, something optional, such as a computer dissection program should be available for the students to use.
@4cuteboys (4099)
• United States
23 Jun 07
I find it un-necessary to force students to do this. I don't think it's fair. Not everyone can stomach that, and it really isn't essential. There are other ways to learn other than cutting apart a frog. I did do it when I was in school but hated every minute of it. I really dont think that should still be happening. It seems so ridiculous to fail people because they cant cut a frog apart.
• United States
4 Jun 07
In my High School the only thing I dissected was a worm. Most biology classes didn't even do that. The Advanced Biology class has 3 required dissections (worm, squid, and fetal pig), but since it is not a required class for graduation, if you don't want to do a dissection you just don't take that class.
• United States
2 Jun 07
I loved it when we dissected frogs. The first time wasn't so great, because the teacher made us try to get the orgins out intact, but the second time was great, cause she just wanted us to go in and explore. It was wonderful. I don't think that it should be a big part of the grade though--some students just have a hard time handling it physically. And some students have religious restrictions. And I learned a lot more when we were just aloud to do it as more fun than anything.
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