Do I have the right to be upset/what do I do now?

@Bytemi (1553)
United States
June 7, 2007 6:56am CST
I have a three year old daughter who goes to school all day while I am at work. I received a called from one of the parents yesterday morning asking if my daughter was OK. I was totally confused and had no idea what she was talking about, she said when she dropped off her daughter Antonia was in the office screaming bloody murder and apparent she fell outside and hurt her knees (yes both of them). I called the school and asked what happen, they said it was a minor scrap and there was nothing to worry about. When I picked her up I found that she tore the first two layers of skin off her entire right knee and the left knee was all tore up and she had injured her right arm and hand also. She is walking straight legged and says it hurts to bend her knee. First question, at what point do I take her to the doctor? I called the director of the center last night and she told me that Antonia was fine all day and it was just a minor scrap and if it was worse than that now, her father did it (we are divorced and the director is always pinning us against each other). I know that he father did not hurt her. Second Question, how far should I push the school to get answers?
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@sizzle3000 (3036)
• United States
7 Jun 07
The school should have called you and told you she fell and how bad it was when it happened. This is my opinion. I am a very over protective mother and I can get very angry very quick when it comes to my kid. First thing kids will fall and skin knees. I would have called my daughters doctor and asked them what they thought or maybe call Ask a nurse. These people are trained. I would then reclean the wound and medicate it my self. It is natural for the leg to be stiff the next day because of where the scrap is. I would tell the school principal that he needs to inform me of any insidents that involve blood. At three years old you are trusting these people with the most prescious thing in your life and you want them to take good care of her. My thing when my daugher was small was I delivered her to school without a scratch on her I want you to give her back to me the same way. I do however do not like the fact that they were blaming your ex (father). I think I would have to talk to my ex and together inform this person that there is no abuse going on and you not like the insinuation there is. Ok to be perfectly honest with you if I would have found all this out when my daugher was three, I would have punched someone in the mouth. I told you I have a bad temper. My husband is the only one who can control me when I get nuts.
@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
7 Jun 07
I agree, I hate the fact that they did not call me and tell me about the accident and this is in no way a minor scrap and nobody is going to convienence me that it is. I am trying my best not to be an over-reacting mother but come on if she is injuried they should have told me so I had a choice in how to proceed. This is not the first time they have blamed my ex for something that happened at thier school and I confronted them that time and apparently it did not help. I just don't know what to do. Yes I cleaned and wrapped the injuries last night.
@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
8 Jun 07
I started another discussion with a picture of her knees: http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1131028.aspx
@sunshine4 (8703)
• United States
7 Jun 07
YOu have the right to be upset. They should have contacted you when your daughter fell. I would talk to the school and ask to speak to the person who was watching your daughter when this happened. I would tell her that you are concerned and would like to know exactly how she got all cut up. Then I would let them know if she ever gets hurt again that you would like to be contacted.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
7 Jun 07
Scraped knees are part of being a kid. The school was right in how they handled that part of the situation. Accusing her father and pitting you and him against each other is absolutely unprofessional. If there is a choice of schools, I would be seriously looking into one of the other ones.
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@Foxxee (3651)
• United States
8 Jun 07
I think the point is, the school should of wrote an accident report. Now they don't have anything to fall back on. Schools are suppose to have an accident report done and the parents should be the first to know about it. It's the parents choice if they think the child needs to go to the ER or not. She doesn't even really know how far the child fell or anything because of no accident report.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
7 Jun 07
no, but unless the blood is free flowing or spurting, it's still just a bad scrape. Neosporin and bandages are all it needs and a lot cheaper than the ER.
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@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
7 Jun 07
I absolutely understand that scrapped knees are a part of childhood, but this is more then a scrap. Anything that has bleeds and is still bleeding 10 hours later and prevents a child from bending their leg is not just a normal bump.
• United States
7 Jun 07
First you should take her to the doctor if she is still complaining when she is walking she could have damaged her kneecap when she fell. Besides playgrounds are dirty small ones have accidents the food crumbs kids are always dropping bring in rodents and small animals. So you should watch very carefully for infection. Second, you should have received an accident report from the center saying exactly what happened and who witnessed it. If you don't have this then I would be curious as to why, are they hiding something. Be sure to get the name of the parent who called you and have her write exactly what she saw before she called you, she obviously saw more than a little scrap or she wouldn't have called you. Third, both you and your ex should file a complaint accusing someone of child abuse is a serious matter and should be dealt with accordingly. The next time it could be you they accuse.
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@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
7 Jun 07
We did receive a accident report, it said she fell. Thats it, now where, not how, just she fell. I just got off the phone with the other parent, she was calling to check on Antonia again and she said that the school is just handling this very badly.
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@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
8 Jun 07
I started a new discussion with pictures of her knees: http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1131028.aspx
• United States
7 Jun 07
PS I would also take pictures of all of her injuries just in case it goes that far.
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@us2owls (1681)
• United States
7 Jun 07
If you and her father are getting along I would get him to go with me to the school for a face to face session. I would take the child to the Doctor or to E.R. and when I went for the face to face I would present them with the bill. Tell them if it isn't taken care of they can deal with an attorney. They should have contacted you the minute this happened.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
7 Jun 07
That would be expensive, but more appropriate... I wouldn't take my kid in at all, but then again, I wouldn't tell you not to.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
7 Jun 07
Why the ER? They will wait 8-10 hours at the ER, do you know why? Becuase they will continuously be bumped behind everyone with an actual emergency.
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@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
7 Jun 07
I would not take her to an ER, I was thinking an Urgent Care because they have X-Rays on site.
@jolenegreen (1209)
• United States
7 Jun 07
OMG. What right EVER does that school have to say that it was the father like that! I would be sooooo MAD!!!!! GRRRR......I would call the board!!!! Let me know how things go please!
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@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
7 Jun 07
I am at a total lost, I am looking for the form now to file a complaint against the center.
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@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
8 Jun 07
I started another discussion with a picture of her knees: http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1131028.aspx
• United States
7 Jun 07
I def would. Wish you luck and give ur little one a hug from me!
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@Foxxee (3651)
• United States
8 Jun 07
OKay, I use to work in daycare/preschool and even with the smallest little scrape or bump, we are suppose to write out an accident report and the teacher who saw the accident is suppose to sign it and then when the parents come to pick up, they read and sign as well. Does this school your daughter goes to have accident reports that are suppose to be done when something happens to a child or daily sheets at all?? If not, then look into it and call the health department and ask if it's reqquired. I know La Petite, Childrens World, KinderCare, and many, many more are suppose to do accident reports. I would also talk with the director aboout inforcing this and making it a new rule if it isn't already there. It helps out in cases like this and makes both parents and teachers happy. If you want, take her in and see if it's okay. It could be just a scrape, but that isn't the point, the point is, a parent should get accident reports and daily sheets no matter what. Keep us informed on this.
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@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
8 Jun 07
I started another discussion with a picture of her knees: http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1131028.aspx
@ravinskye (8237)
• United States
7 Jun 07
I wouldn't push the school for answers, I would pull my daughter from that school ASAP and find another. The fact that they didn't even call you is bad. And they made light of it which is even worse. And then to blame her father. What if they do that one time and tell him you hurt her and he uses them as backup to sue for custody? I don't know if he would do that but it has happened in my area. A daycare in our area was neglectful and a child got hurt. so they called the mother who wasn't even supposed to be around this child and said the father did it. The poor father had to fight in court for months to get his kid back. I would seriously consider a new school.
@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
7 Jun 07
I have been looking for a new school for a while now, they have tipped me over the edge this time.
@eden32 (3973)
• United States
7 Jun 07
You have every right to be upset. The school should have called you immediately when it happened. As her parent you should decide if it was a serious injury that needed medical attention or if you felt she could return to class. I would take her to the doctor, where the skin is ripped an infection could be setting in. And the director was totally out of line suggesting her father hurt her. I mean come on, did your ex push her down on gravel to skin her knees? This is the type of injury a child gets from abuse. It could be the type of injury a child would get who was not being watched properly and now the school is panicked that you'll report them. I'd guess that she really did just hurt herself playing. Kids fall, that's normal. But I wouldn't like the school's reaction at all and I would consider changing schools if that's an option for you.
@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
7 Jun 07
I know that kids fall and kids get hurt, determining whether she needs to see a doctor I am still not sure of and I hate the way the school has handled this whole situation we have been exploring a new school for a while now and having problems find an appropriate one for her.
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@makingpots (11915)
• United States
7 Jun 07
That is an extremely inappropriate thing for the director to say to you. I can't imagine a professional doing that and makes me wonder in she is trying to cover some kind of negligence on the centers behalf. I think another mom being around for it and worrying enough to call you and check on your daughter would indicate that is was more than just the scenerio of a little scrape. If I were you I would take her to the doctor and you can even ask the doctor if they can tell whether or not this all happened at one time. I would be fuming and want a lot more answers if I were you.
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@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
7 Jun 07
OH I want answers I just don't think that I am going to get them. Obviously, they weren't watching her.
• United States
7 Jun 07
Yes, I also think that you have every right to be upset. At that age when they do hurt themselves they want their parents, but it does not seem right that the school did not contact you or Antonia's dad. I would go speak to the school directly, and if they are throwing accusations against her father, have him go with you, too. Show them that you both are concerned about your child even though you are divorced. Maybe that will get things cleared up. I do hope that her knees are not terribly hurt, kids do get a lot of scrapes, and when they are on the knees the skin seems sensitive anyway. With the skin off of them, it will make the scabs dry and that will pull and stretch the skin,too. I would put some antibiotic ointment on it to keep it from getting infected and to help keep that skin soft. Good luck!
@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
7 Jun 07
Thank you for your comments, we are putting neosporn on them and keeping an eye open for infection.
@vampoet (825)
• Singapore
8 Jun 07
Firstly, from your descriptions, there is nothing to worry about. She cannot bend her legs because the tear of the skin around her joints will hurt like hell when they are stretched. Secondly, you should press the school for answers as to how it happened and stuff. You might threaten them to take legal actions if they are shadowy about their answers.
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@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
8 Jun 07
If you want to see a picture of her injury see my new discussion that I just started.
@tredale (1309)
• Australia
7 Jun 07
Im sorry your daughter hurt herself and I would be concerned that they didnt tell you but more importantly that they are playing you and your husband off. I nearly choked on my soup. Its bad enough they didnt contact you but to play each other off no school has the right to do that. They need to be honest and up front. I would complain loudly to anyone you can this is a true disgrace.
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@Bytemi (1553)
• United States
7 Jun 07
I guess they just don't concider that we talk and make all decision for our daughter together. We may be divorced but we are joint parents. It was a really rough divorce, but we have gotten past our issues for our daughter and it is wrong of them to pin us against each other.
• United States
8 Jun 07
It sounds to me as if your child will fare much better at a different school.
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@BROWNEYEZ (447)
• United States
7 Jun 07
first off you have the total right to be pissed off. i have a five year old. and i made it clear to any school or daycare ive put her in that they let me know if anything happens right down to a bug bite. i also make sure they write a accident report on all incidents that happen in the school and i keep them in a file just in case i need something serious happens. plus then they can not say the child had marks on there body before they arrive a nd try to blame it on you. i would go again to the director walk in the school and explained to her that if you dont get a ligit answer that you will go above her head if she has to. cause that rediculous. if they take lightly to that what happen if it was worse and you child went the emergency room and didnt notify you. believe it or not it happens. my momn told me when i was 2 i was sliding down a slide in day care and metal was sticking up and i cut my head bad enough that they has to call the abulence and i had to get 5 stitches my mom didnt find out till she came to pick me up then she got the b/s of oh no on called you im so sorry. i dont tolerate that stuff. trust me directors can loose there job quicker then a teacher just for not managing the school right. i would threaten then if nothing happen go above her
@34momma (13882)
• United States
7 Jun 07
i would take her to the doctor ASAP. i would push that school until i got a good answer from someone. from what you have said here that is a bit more then just a fall down. she seems hurt. i would be flippin pissed off right now
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• United States
8 Jun 07
THAT IS HORRIBLE!! I feel so sorry for your little one. I dont know what you could do but i would do whatever i could in pursuing this a little more. Recently something like this happened at my daughters school.. ( shes in kindergarten ) one evening tucking her into bed she compalained that her neck hurt throught out the days i notcied she was favoring one side of her neck and i asked her about it she told me that earlier that day she was at the playground during recess and one of the kids pushed her off the top of the slide. she described to me with her hands that her neck hit the edge of the slide "really really hard" and "it hurt really really bad" she said. I asked her if she had told her teacher and she said yes i said what did she do about it? made her(my daughter not the other girl) sit the rest of recess for resting time. The next day i spoke to the teacher and she said that all could she do was that & ice would be all that she could do... etc etc. Now i was upset for two reasons 1.The teachers are outside to keep an eye on our children so they stay safe. If something like this happens they need to check the situatuion out make sure all is fine and where she had hit was a pretty dangerous spot, depending on the fall and point of impact and 2. NOBODY NOTIFIED ME OF THE SITUATION what if she seriously injured herself, and needed to be seen by her physican right away? Teachers schools etc etc should notify the parents if there child gets hurt no matter how "serious" or "unserious" they think the situation is!
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• United States
8 Jun 07
Push it all the way to your local child services and your local news. Something happened and if they won't tell you, they may be guilty of something.And why weren't you called when your daugher was hurt?There are too many questions!If you can,it is time to find another school. Especially when the director doesn't respect you.I hope your daughter is feeling better.
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• Philippines
8 Jun 07
you have every right to be upset! if i were in your situation, i had talked straight to the director to ask what really happened to my child. since she was in the school when that thing happend, the accident is their responsibility and they should not point fingers at other people. the fact that they didn't call you about the incident, they are somewhat guilty of it. for the first question, you should bring your daughter immediately to the hospital. ask the doctor if htey can give you a medical report regarding your child's case. for the 2nd question, you should consult a child welfare organization for this. they can help you find answers to your questions. good luck and i hope your child get well soon.
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• United States
8 Jun 07
any chance you and your ex could go to the school together and confront the school directly? then let them give you that line about the father doing something. i believe that that could be considered slander or libel or something. i would definitely not let this go. speak with an attorney. again, preferably both of you. if the courts see you being civil in accordance with matters regarding your daughter, they may be more convinced that the school is covering something up. good luck to you.
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