abortion

@stacyv81 (5904)
United States
June 8, 2007 9:41am CST
Ok, I just have to say this...A woman's right to choose....well, I do not agree with this statement. What about the babys rights to be born? What about giving YOUR child the respect of not painfully ripping him from your womb? What about sacrificing 9 months of your life to ensure that YOUR child is born safely....Cant take care of them after? that is ok, there are plenty of people in this world who desperately want a baby, and would be able to provide a loving, nurturing home for YOUR child. I mean, is 9 months really too much to give up for the child YOU conceived?
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@shannon76 (1234)
• United States
8 Jun 07
I don't agree either. In my opinion there is only once choice and that is life. I don't believe that anyone should have the choice of ending a life.
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@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
8 Jun 07
yes, I agree that should be left up to God =)
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8 Jun 07
could you have a baby and then live with him in a park? or strugle to give him something to eat?
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@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
8 Jun 07
no....that is why there is a such thing as adoption!!!
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• India
9 Jun 07
While its true that a woman shouldn't be insensitive towards a baby growing inside her, but I would still go with the opinion that its the mother's choice. Because there are other factors to be considered like, sometimes conception occurs accidentally or by mistake when its not wanted. The delivery could be dangerous for the mother, or the social conditions might be such that it would be to embarassing to have a baby in those situations (In the sub-continent having a baby without getting married is looked down upon). Most importantly, sometimes the parents may not be in a fiancial condition at all to take proper care of the baby. Its such situations, its only wise to get the baby aborted.
• India
9 Jun 07
Hi stacy! I feel that if someone has conceived as a result of force or failure of precautionary measures and is not ready for responsibiliies then it is better to go in for an abortion. In any other case one need to know to take responsibility of their actions. When you bring a life tto this world you also need to make sure thatt you can provide a comfortable life.
8 Jun 07
by the time an abortion can be done, we are talking about cells. not about a child. and it IS every woman's right to chose. what about pregnancies dued to rapes? what about pregnancies dued to contraception failure? or even a moment;s mistake? you have a kid when you are 10000% sure that after that kid is born you're able to give him or her EVERYTHING, because a kid deserves EVERYTHING. what is the point of bringing a kid to the world and force him live a miserable life?
@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
8 Jun 07
cells...are you kidding? You do not have to force him to live a miserable life....ADoption!!! As least you arent killing him!
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• United States
8 Jun 07
Since when is adoption a sunshine and happiness solution to an unwanted child? Have you seen how over-grown orphanages are these days? Are you aware that there is absolutely no way to ensure that an adoptive family is a good environment? Are you aware of how biased the system is? You think that's preferable to terminating an under-developed, non-sentient, unfeeling fetus before it has the capacity to feel pain or be abused, or realize that no one ever wanted it to be born in the first place?
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8 Jun 07
nope, i'm not kidding. but i answered above. and for the record, been there, done that. taking in consideration present, future, everything. and no lightning struk me, people don't point the finger at me. at least i'm opened to talk about it and not hidding behind the finger. but in every country the numbers of abortions are far higher than the ones you see in statistics. that should mean something, right? people say what they think looks pretty. sure, throw rocks at women having abortions! don't give a damn about their reasons... don't give a damn about them.... bla bla... and for real... if you were raped... would you carry a baby for 9 months just to remember every second of that horrible act every second? get real! if you answer yes, you're the dude with no feelings, not me.
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@urbandekay (18311)
8 Jun 07
Yes, and it highlights the problem with any 'rights' based system of ethics. all the best urban
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@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
8 Jun 07
I agree! =) thanks for responding!
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8 Jun 07
aaa!!! it seems to me that you give more rights to a bunch of ceels than to a foreigner that wants to live in your country :| sad.
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@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
8 Jun 07
What?
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• Canada
11 Jun 07
I soooo agree with you. I don't know how anyone could kill their baby. It is so sad, it makes me sick thinking about what that poor thing goes through. I hate when people say "Its not a baby yet" It is a baby....a fetus... my baby is 9 mths old and so precious. Even if I was poor or was raped I would give my baby to a couple that has no way of making a baby. I also hate that the man has no right to decide if he wants the baby. Yes it's the womens body. 9 mths only 9 mths. I could just scream when I hear about Abortion...so sad :(
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• Canada
11 Jun 07
Oh right if you are raped or don't want the baby I agree taking the day after pill is okay. As this doesn't hurt the baby....I don't think anyway....
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• Canada
11 Jun 07
I live in Canada so yup!
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@eden32 (3976)
• United States
12 Jun 07
In regards to "If you were poor, you'd still be able to afford the MD appts, the clothes, the extra food, the time off for the delivery and after the delivery?" And the response from Shawna that she's from Canada so national health care would cover her. Does Canadian health coverage extend to clothing, and groceries?
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@mdvarghese (1789)
• Bangalore, India
10 Jun 07
I cannot agree with abortions for the sake of a womans right to choose.....there is a lot of means to prevent a pregnancy........to destroy a baby in the womb is a criminal activity.........they should be punished.....But I will agree in the case of the child in the womb have some problem.........it is better to abort than give birth.....
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@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
10 Jun 07
Why is it that if someone murders a pregnant woman in most cases they get charged for two murders, but if a woman aborts her own child it is legal?' I agree
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@BethTN81 (564)
• United States
10 Jun 07
Ok so to destroy a baby in the womb is a criminal activity UNLESS the child has a problem...how is that not criminal too? The child could be born deformed or retarded and it is then ok, and it is not a criminal activity? Is that child less human now? I don't get it. Either a person believes abortion is murder or not. I am not going to fight for the life for the unborn and then say Oh! Your child will have mdeical problems. KILL IT!
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@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
10 Jun 07
Well, getting rid of a baby whether deformed or no in my opinion isnt right, That is not what I was agreeing with
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@pallidyne (858)
• United States
8 Jun 07
Its funny because I hear both sides of this arguement over and over. A womans right vs. the childs rights. It seems like the woman seems to win most of the time simply because she has a voice. I almost with there was a way of transplanting an unwanted child into another mother, sort of a pre-birth adoption, you know? Where are the scientists working on that one? = ) Of course we could get into the definition of life and what constitutes a person, and all those other things that make the lawyers really happy.
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@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
8 Jun 07
yes, we could, but I have seen pictures of things that have traumatized me too say the least. Pictures of babies after abortions....I just chow people could do that to their own child.
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@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
8 Jun 07
I meant to say I cant she how, not chow. sorry
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@judyt00 (3504)
• Canada
9 Jun 07
Most.of.those.photos.are.from.the.70's.and. are.the.result.of.autopsies.on.fetuses.not.actual.avortions. The.rest.come.from.medical.anatomy.texts.meant.only.for. doctors.not.the.general.puvlic Like.PETA.the.pro.life.movement.uses.lies.and.fake.pics.to. make.their.point.
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• Philippines
11 Jun 07
being a devout catholic i would say that i am pro-life. a baby has a right to be born...regardless of being wanted or not. it is really sad that there are heartless people who would opt to abort the child they are carrying. how irresponsible can they be? if they were not ready to face the consequences, they should have thought about that before doing the "deed".
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@eden32 (3976)
• United States
11 Jun 07
Choosing to terminate an unwanted pregnancy IS facing a consequence. IMO irresponsibility would be ignoring the pregnancy, failing to seek proper care and continuing on with your life in denial until labor forces you to do otherwise. Most women do consider their birth control options either before becoming sexually active or shortly thereafter. However, not all women have access or knowledge about effective methods of birth control, no method of birth control is 100% effective (except abstinence of course) and accidents happen.
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• Philippines
12 Jun 07
but people are too lazy to know more about contraceptives (or at least, here in my country) they would most likely opt for natural family planning method. these methods have lower chances of reliability.
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@sacrg793 (429)
• China
10 Jun 07
well, what's you are saying is right, i know that a baby abortion is cruel, not only to bay and his families, but they have maybe unspeakable reasons to make them to do the abortion. there is no one can say they wouldn't want abortion in their lives, some are accidental. hehe speaks too much.
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@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
10 Jun 07
I didnt hear any slang in the response....
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@wachit14 (3600)
• United States
9 Jun 07
I respect your right to voice your opinion. I'm pro-choice. I believe a woman has the right to choose and that doesn't make me pro-abortion. Abortion should be the very last alternative, but it should remain a choice so that there are always safe methods. If abortion is made illegal again, it will not abolish abortion. Women will have to resort to unsafe methods which can kill them. Also, women have abortions for many reasons so don't assume that a woman has an abortion because a pregnancy is inconvenient.
@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
9 Jun 07
yes I can agree that if it was illegal women would still get it done somehow...I do respect your opinion. Thanks for responding =)
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@Gemmygirl1 (2870)
• Australia
12 Jun 07
I agree with both sides of this topic, always have & always will - take an episode of Law & Order i saw the other day - a hubby did a C Section on his wife coz he thought the baby was someone elses - the court could not charge him with the murder of a baby unless they had proof the baby had taken a breath. In abortion, it's not counted as a baby until it can function on it's own & can do things, a fetus is called that coz when the you in the 1st trimester & can still abort, the fetus cant do anything for itself - which i guess is why they don't class it as a baby until it actually develops organs & stuff to sustain itself. I also agree that adoption is a better option BUT you cant expect a rape victim to allow a baby forced upon her to be growing inside her for 9 months as a constant reminder, it would be unfair on the woman. Unfortunately, in this subject, you can have an opinion but just coz you think your opinion is right, doesn't mean it actually is - that's why they it's just a personal thought.
@us2owls (1681)
• United States
9 Jun 07
Another thing on abortion and the right to choose. I personally think that MyLot should delete any further things on this worn out subject. It is the same old stuff being hashed over again and again. We all hae the right to make up our own minds what we want to do. I myself have never had an abortion - I have 3 adult children. I do however think that the right to choose is the only way to go. That way an unwanted child doesn't have to suffer, a child that is probably going to be born with disabilities does not have to suffer and in the end if anyones conciense is pricked it is the woman who made that choice. It is not for me or you to tell anyone else what to do. Stayv - I hope that some ay you are put in the difficult position that you think it is OK for other women to go through.
@magikrose (5423)
• United States
9 Jun 07
Ok my problem with this si that the women who get raped didnt have a choice and because of some idiots stupidity he gets a women pregnant because he raped her. Remember she didnt have a choice in the matter and I dont know single raped women who is going to want to go through the 9months of carying a baby that was conceved out of rape. In those situations abortion is the best answer, or at least the morning after pill to avoid it all together.
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@Shaun72 (15968)
• Palatka, Florida
8 Jun 07
You are right about this. I agree 100% with you.
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@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
8 Jun 07
thank you! =)
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8 Jun 07
dudes, you've been raised way to religiously... or in a far to rich enviorment...
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@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
8 Jun 07
are you serious? no, we have been raised with respect of human life, and not selfishness!!!
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@ma_belle (1357)
• United States
8 Jun 07
Ok, if you don't like abortion, don't have one. However, I don't feel that your politics, theology, opinion or anything of that sort should govern how I deal with my own body and any extension there of. Truthfully, it depends on who you talk to, and to what beliefs they adhere to. (Remember, not everyone believes life begins at conception!)
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8 Jun 07
smart.
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@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
8 Jun 07
you are right about your own body...so if that is true how can you dictate what happens to your childs body?
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@ma_belle (1357)
• United States
8 Jun 07
look at my last sentence and the parenthesis. don't be close minded, some cultures, belief systems and peoples DO think differently that you do.
@judyt00 (3504)
• Canada
9 Jun 07
Its.all.well.and.good.to.say.its.wrong.however.what. avout.the.children.whose.parents.hate.them?..Should.they .have.to.put.up.with.the.avuse.they.will.get.from.parents .who.are.indifferent.to.their.welfare?..I.think.its.more. honest.to.get.rid.of.the.fetus.so.the.child.won't.grow. up.in.a.climate.of.hitting.and.hatred. After.all.its.proved.that.child.avuse.only.continues.throughout .the.generations.
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@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
9 Jun 07
what about adoption?
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@judyt00 (3504)
• Canada
9 Jun 07
There.is.a.greater.stigma.put.onto.women.who.put.their .children.up.for.adoption.than.those.who.use.avortion.as. virth.control...They.are.automatically.assumed.to.ve.fallen .women...After,all.what.woman.willingly.just.hands.her.infant .to.someone.else.to.raise?..Certainly.not.a.good,.loving.one.
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@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
10 Jun 07
what is the difference? At least the loving one gives her child a chance at life how can you judge a woman who puts her baby up for adoption and at the same time ask people to not judge you for your pro-choice beliefs?
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8 Jun 07
The cruellest point is the fathers. I think fathers should be given a say in it because someone you get two people in love they fall out. (the women's pregnant) but he still wants the baby, she did but now they're apart she just goes and has an abortion.. It's very sad. Now I know this might sound unfair for a women who might not want to carry a baby but some are happy accept money after? It's just a bit screwy to tell the truth. It should be talked over and then decided fairly but that won't ever happen and father will watch their children be killed without a say. Oh well... ~Joey
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@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
8 Jun 07
I agree if the woman doesnt want it then the father should be given the same rights as a woman, If the woman wants it and the father doesnt, she has it and the father signs away the rights...why cant it be the same way around? It is very unfair, from that standpoint.
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@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
8 Jun 07
no it wasnt a mistake I agree it takes two to create a baby, therefore, I think that it isnt just the mothers right to choose, but I think we should take into consideration, the fathers right and the baby's right. Voicing your opinion is never a mistake.... =)
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9 Jun 07
Hey, wait... who said anything about slavery? I just think a fathers opinion should count for something when a women chooses. I don't think it should be just the women's say and legally that's unlikely to change. (which I mentioned) But for you to even mention "control" over her body is quite pathetic. As I that wasn't what I was saying, which it seems you've just picked at. "Lucky for me the man I am with doesn't want children. He'd be the one handing me the phone book as I'm finding my Day-Timer to schedule the appointment to get rid of it." Rid? that's a pretty cruel word don't you think... Mind you if stages came you could of prevented it :) Just my thoughts, ~Joey P.s Argue all you like, I have the feeling you will but I won't be drawn into it. CYA
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@Roswell (104)
• India
9 Jun 07
Having an abortion should be illegal. Why do they even make lov when they don't want babies? Animals are better than todays humans atleast they don kill their offspring like what gloomy called it a parasite. Seriously what if your mum had done an abortion on you. You wouldn't even be here now giving vital information about legal way of killing babies its worse than murder. Dont know wat the doctors feel when they rip it of they are no better than
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@eden32 (3976)
• United States
9 Jun 07
Are you kidding me? You don't know much about animals do you? It's way off subject,but almost all animals practice infanticide. I have personally seen everything from mice & hamsters to dogs & cats kill and eat their young. I know it also happens among tigers, some primates, fish, birds, and dozens of other species. If my mother had aborted, I wouldn't know it know would I? I imagine most doctors feel they are providing a medical service to a woman, and keeping their client safe through it.
@judyt00 (3504)
• Canada
9 Jun 07
I.suspect.most.doctors.are.thinking.avout.all.the.mutilated.children .they.have.seen.in.emergency.rooms.and.wish.those.stupid.mothers.had. considered.termination.instead.of.raising.an.unwanted,.unloved,.avused.child
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@roniroxas (10576)
• Philippines
9 Jun 07
hi GloomCookieLex for you the term jumping into beds seems pretty degrading, but killing a fetus is not.... whahahaha you are a comedian.
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@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
9 Jun 07
some married people & people in relationships who are committed can "accidently" get pregnant it isnt limited to the promiscuous.
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• United States
9 Jun 07
Exactly.
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@stacyv81 (5904)
• United States
10 Jun 07
wow, we finally agree on something =) lol!
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