Pro-lifers care about the lives of both mother and child.
By Swtrose
@Swtrose (3385)
Canada
June 8, 2007 2:42pm CST
Many feel that those who are pro-life do not consider all options. They feel that we only care about the unborn baby. This is farthest from the truth. Pro-lifers care about both the mother and unborn child. Many women who consider abortion feel that the only choice that they have is abortion. All too often it is because, society sends a message that the unborn baby is better off dead.
When you say that you are pro-life, but you think abortion should be allowed in certain situations what you really are saying is that you are pro-choice, but you think abortion should not be allowed in certain situations.
The moment we say that in some cases it is ok to take a life, we have become pro choice with exceptions.
Pro-life people believe that all life is sacred. The baby’s rights are not superior to the mothers, in my opinion they are equal.
I want to state that this topic is not to start an argument about Abortion.
The topic is not to judge anyone who has had an abortion, so please don't pass judgment.
The topic is not to come in here and tell me how you never want kids and if you got pregnant you would kill it because you are not being an incubator.
The topic is not to judge me because I am pro life.
So, my question is are you pro-life and do you believe that under no circumstances should a life be taken or are you pro choice in all situations or are you pro choice, but abortion should not be allowed in certain situations?
Please no personal attacks, or no name calling.
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8 responses
@lisaneuc (56)
• United States
9 Jun 07
I would say I am pro-life, but probably not in the sense that you are referring to here. I am pro-life in that I believe the mother should have the right to live her life as she chooses without interference from the government.
I think there are two key issues here.
The first issue is when do you consider a fetus to be a person? Human beings are the only entities capable of having rights. The group of cells that make up an embryo is not a human being anymore than an acorn is a tree. The embryo has the*potential* to become a person if it is nurtured and cared for by the woman it depends on. That woman has rights. To sacrifice her rights to a conglomeration of cells that cannot exist independent of the mother is a perversion of the concept of rights.
The second issue revolves around who has the right to make the decision regarding the embryo? It should necessarily and properly be the individual choice of the mother to make the decision,*not* the government. This is particularly true in the case of rape or incest. The mother should be the only one to make the decision based on what is, in her opinion, best for her.
There are certainly many other tangential issues here. There is room for well-meaning and reasonable people to disagree on this difficult topic. All the more reason, IMHO, to leave the decision up to the mother.
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@Swtrose (3385)
• Canada
9 Jun 07
The government recognizes the rights of the unborn. A fetus can be a victim in murder. The Unborn Victims of Violence Act recognizes a fetus as living at the time of conception. Currently, 30 states recognize the unlawful killing of an unborn child as homicide. This law shows the value of human life. If the Unborn Victims of Violence Act recognizes the rights of the unborn in the case of homicide then why does the Goverment allow the mother to murder her child?
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@lisaneuc (56)
• United States
9 Jun 07
An unborn clump of cells does not have any rights. It is not an independently existing organism, let alone a person.
Rights belong to individuals, not parts of individuals. Every part of your body has the genetic material that constitutes the building blocks of life. If you cut off your hand in an accident, you aren't guilty of murder or even manslaughter(handslaughter?).
I think there can be further discussion on exactly when the fetus moves from being a potential to an actual human being and that question is more difficult.
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@4cuteboys (4099)
• United States
8 Jun 07
Pro Life in all circumstances.
I like your disclaimers!
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@Ravenladyj (22904)
• United States
9 Jun 07
I, much like many others, cherish life...and I know/feel/believe etc that all life is precious and worthwhile HOWEVER I am definately Pro Choice without a doubt BUT there are exceptions (using it as a regular method of b.c for example..I have ZERO tolerance for that)...For me its not a simple black and white thing..Yes I believe life is precious and to be cherished. Yes I believe all life is worthy etc BUT I also know that in life there are times when a difficult pick and choose/one or the other choice MUST be made.....
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@Roswell (104)
• India
9 Jun 07
i am also a pro life i think life a very beautifull and it should be given a chance to both mother and child i do see why they call it abortion but yes i belive that it can be done to save a life. If i had something to deal with this i would choose my gf or wife to be alive but even so i want both of them it would give me happiness to see a mum and child unite that picture is most sacred to me. yet if the baby causes complications for her i
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@Springlady (3986)
• United States
8 Jun 07
I believe that all life is precious. I believe that life begins at conception. It is a life that God has a plan for.
In a difficult situation, I believe that Drs should do everything they can to save both the mother and the unborn child. I also believe that we should seek God's guidance in these situations and ask for His will.
I know that many women have a very hard time deciding what to do, but I believe that giving life a chance is the best decision and also to seek God's will and His help.
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@nadinetannous (138)
• Australia
9 Jun 07
I studied abortion in my ethics class a few weeks ago and came across some very interesting arguments. One was for abortion. It stated that women have control over their own bodies and that a baby is a part of their own body, of which the woman can do as she pleases.
I don't agree with that statement. Personally, I believe that a foetus is an individual human being, but is not able to express itself. I find a foetus equivelant to a brain damaged person/ "potato"(such an awful term)- they are not able to do things for themselves and are dependant on others.
Abortion is a very personal issue and what is right for one person may not be right for another. I will never have an abortion- that is something I can never bring myself to do. However, if a friend or someone I know was to have an abortion, I won't be angry or think of her as a murderer. What I will do however is make sure that she has thought about this carefully and is having an abortion for the right reasons. I don't see abortion as immoral, but if you have an abortion out of convenience and selfishness (for example, have an abortion and not feel anything and just carry on as normal as if never pregnant), I find that immoral.
Nadine.
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@Roswell (104)
• India
9 Jun 07
i would want her to be alive and safe as we can have another baby but not another lover like her i would die without her if this doesn't happen the baby's alive and she's not it will give me a reason to live to look after her to look into her mother's given eyes CALM DOWN nothin happened lol i got a emotional trama. Hey so how about you i know a mother would choose her child but wat would you choose
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@Woodpigeon (3710)
• Ireland
12 Jun 07
I am pro choice in all situations in which it is legal. It isn't legal in Ireland, but there is nothing to stop Irish women from travelling to the UK where they may undergo the procedure. Many do so.
My mother had twin boys that were induced/aborted at seven months. Our father had to make the decision, as it was the boys or her, and she was in no condition to answer. Fortunately, she survived the ordeal and I am sure they grieved in their own ways but at no point did anyone suggest they had a choice. Noone even expected the babies to survive, although I don't know the details as to why that was the case. At the end of the day, it was a non-decision: they weren't going to leave a family without their mother and allow her to bleed out. As they were my older brothers, my older siblings and I all are grateful that my dad had the steel to make the hard choice in a crisis situation. Had he dithered they may have lost all three.
