Should we be made to spay or neuter our pets?
@teapotmommommerced (10359)
United States
June 20, 2007 11:51pm CST
For all of your pet lovers out there what is your view on a law they are trying to pass in Fresno CA that all pets have to be spayed or neutered? If a person has a dog or cat that they want to breed then they must pay a breeders fee. When I started writing this discussion I was under the impression the law was written because of the over crowding of dogs and cats at the local shelters. What I found out was the law was written because of attacks on people by vicious dogs. www.standunited.ca/newsus/california/fresno/2005_july17...
This story is about a little boy who was attacked and killed by a pair of pit bulls who left him dead and naked. This story touched me so much. I cannot believe that the DA did not press charges against the owners of the dogs. Now the parents are pushing for stricter dog laws. What do all you dog owners thing do you think we should have to spay and neuter our pets? I realize this story is about more than spay or neutering of pets I just want to talk about this subjects.
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@webeishere (36313)
• United States
21 Jun 07
I am against the making of laws as far as pets and spaying/nuetering. get this, here in Minnesota they want to pass a law making the ownership of Pitbulls,rotwielers, and Mastiffs illegal also due to attacks. A toy Poodle can attack and damage or even killed if provoked enough or if rabid. It's a form a racism in my eyes all these crazy laws cities wish to pass.
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@webeishere (36313)
• United States
21 Jun 07
Thanks for your input. I appreciate it.
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@teapotmommommerced (10359)
• United States
21 Jun 07
I believe that manitory spay and neutering should happen because there is to many cats and dogs not because of the viciousness of these animals. The viciousness of these animals should be handled in other ways.
My daughter has two Mastiffs the male is so calm and tame he is just a big pony the female is getting so vicious. I worry about her, but they have not trained her well also, I blaime most of the problem on my daughter and her husband and not on the dog. She also had a rotwieler which was a tame girl but a good watch dog. They had a pitbull which I had put down because they abanded her and left her for me to deal with. I could not take her and was afraid she would be used for a puppy farm or fighting, we had lots in our area so I took her to our local dog pound and had her put down. I know that was cruel but I did not know what else to do with her. I had no one to take her and I did not want to deal with a pit and my daughter left her. I was so mad at my daughter I thought I trained her better than that.
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@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
21 Jun 07
This is a hard subject to discuss, but I think that if you are a breeder then you should get a license to do it. If you are not, you should have your animal spayed and neuter.
I think it all comes down to being responsible pet owners. We had a puppy fixed once and I thought that it would change him somehow, but he was just fine.
I would rather this, than the thought of them being put to sleep because of over-crowding. Not only that, I have had quite a few run ins with stray dogs and although, I have never been bitten, the fear that it invokes is over-whelming.
There are lots of people who don't take responsibility for their animals and they get pregnant. The owners don't want the liter so they give them away and too many of them end up in the pound. We need to do the right thing.
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@teapotmommommerced (10359)
• United States
21 Jun 07
Every pet I have owned I have had spayed or neuterd. When I got Forrest and Sammie, the cats and I found out Forrest was so special I know I did not want special kittens I got both cats fixed. I was afraid if I just fixed Forrest when Sammie came in heat she could slip out of the house and get knocked up. I did not want to deal with kittens. Here in our area we have lots of puppy farms and I think we need to pass laws to have all pets spayed or neutered.
I know this will mean another law, another thing someone is telling us to do, but if all of use acted responsibly then we would not need laws like this.
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@sunshinecup (7871)
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21 Jun 07
No I don't think they should force us to do it, but make it more affordable to do so. It cost me $125.00 to have two Toms fixed last year. That is crazy. To some that isn't much, for my budget that was two weeks of groceries. As for the dog attack, I think it's stupid that parents nor the DA didn't go after the people that owned the dogs instead they are trying to go after everyone that owns pets.
There are solutions for the problems other than creating more laws that won't be enforced half the time any way. Again make it cheaper to have them fixed, heck they could even do a sliding scale fee for those that really don't have the income for it. Next stiffer penalties for owner who do not properly restrain their pets and actually enforce the darn laws we have.
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@teapotmommommerced (10359)
• United States
21 Jun 07
I agree enforce the darn laws we do have. I know why they want the dogs fixed because it helps calm them down and makes them less vicious. Why was not there not a leash law in Clovis? My daughter lives in Clovis and if it would have been my grandchild that was killed I would have done anything I could as to have those dogs put down. I know that is rough but I believe once a killer always a killer.
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@pilbara (1436)
• Australia
21 Jun 07
Where I am it is not a legal requirement to have this done, but many people do. We have 2 cats and a dog all male and all from the lost dogs home. They were neutered before we got them. Even had they not been we probbaly would have done that with the cats, but maybe not the dog as he doesn't leave our property except on a leash whereas the cats are able to move around more.
The problem is that many people with pets are just not responsible with them.
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@teapotmommommerced (10359)
• United States
24 Jun 07
You are with many people are not reaponsible with their pets
@sidoney (1033)
• Jamaica
21 Jun 07
some one came to my house and saw my dogs I have 777 dogs and a cat lots of fish and a bird now my dogs are 1 pitbull, 1 lab dog, 1 german Shepard, 1 rotwiler,1 mixed rotwiler with great dane,shih tzu and the other is a stray don't know what breed but the person saw me my baby and my little bro out side and said I should get rid of the pit and keep the rot wilder away from the kids saying that pit were made in a lab but the real thing about it is that my lab dog is the most vicious in my yard and only listens to me I am not saying that pit are not vicious but it depends on the owner as my friend has a poodle that his so vicious that other dogs and people stay away from his home the dog has on more than one ocation leaped and bit people leaving them with lots of scars and stitches
@teapotmommommerced (10359)
• United States
24 Jun 07
It appears you said that you have 777 dogs and other pets. Thats a lot if you have that many pets how do you feed them?
@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
21 Jun 07
I think a law making people spay or neuter their pets is a great idea. That having to pay a breeding fee if they want to breed their animals is also great, the 2 together is pretty brilliant. But if they do this, then the vet clinics will have to bring down the price of the fixing, that some clinics charge way too much for.
This is spoken by a person with 26 cats (only the 4 week old kitten isn't fixed) and 2 dogs, all spayed or neutered. I believe in fixing animals, kittens & puppies are cute & sweet, but we have plenty of unwanted pets that we don't need more.
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@teapotmommommerced (10359)
• United States
24 Jun 07
What does a person do with 26 cats? Are the cats outside for hunters? I have two cats and that is enough for me, I can not imanige feeing all 26 of them
@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
24 Jun 07
She feeds them, protects them, & trys to rehome some. All these cats have various stories, but most of the last bunch were given to me because the orginal owners couldn't keep them for some reason.
Oliver, Taj & the baby, Pearl, were found orphan kittens.
Rygel & his mother & siblings came when I followed the mother home & the people told me they were "tired" of them.
I lived trapped Chevron (Ronnie) at a Chevron station where she & a sibling I couldn't catch were dumped. Star was rescued from a construction site. Gizmo was found with his family after they wandered away from the Walmart they were dumped at. Mitten was also the result of a dumped mother, this time at a park by a school.
The only kitten that was, more or less, born here was Solo & that was after I picked up his mom because I could see she was going to have kittens. She turned out to be in labor & had to have a c-section (and spay) to deliver.
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
22 Jun 07
No I do not believe that they should bring that law in they are our Pets and they are also entitled to their freedom
I to understand the connection but I would say that the law should be enforced to owners to keep their Pets under control and if they have a dangerous dog then to mussle the dog and keep it on a short lead. I think this would be more the Idea and probably a lot safer
It annoys me when Owners know their Dogs are dangerous and do not take the Precautions they should
@teapotmommommerced (10359)
• United States
24 Jun 07
Bottom line people need to be responsible for their pets, no matter what size they are. I hate Petie's barking, I try to keep him from barking. It is a trying task but I continue to work on it.
@brendalee (6082)
• United States
21 Jun 07
I wouldn't be totally against the law, if they were doing it for the overpopulation problem. This is becoming a big problem all over the place. But I also believe that there should be more low cost spay/neutering programs around if they pass that law. Many people will say that you shouldn't have a pet if you can't afford it but I don't feel that people should be denied a pet based on that. They have programs for humans to help with medical cost and such, so why not for the animals. I think they should have enough money to feed the pet but I also think there should be programs to help with the medical bills. I know, I have big dreams.lol.
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@teapotmommommerced (10359)
• United States
21 Jun 07
In CA we use to have the spay and neuter program which helps with the cost but that program is gone. I have never thought of having aid for pet owners who are poor that is a good idea.
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@bonbon664 (3466)
• Canada
21 Jun 07
Yes, pet owners who have no intention of breeding, should definitely get their animals spayed or neutered. If you want to breed, it shouldn't be a big deal to pay a fee, and be licensed to do so. Maybe that way there wouldn't be so many irresponsible breedings out there.
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@samtaylorskykierajen (7976)
• Canada
22 Jun 07
My heart breaks for the little boy who was attacked and for his family but I don't agree with such a law being passed . As with people you will come across some who are decent in life and you may run into some who would hurt you if given a chance but that does not mean we are going to have everyone fixed so they can't produce anymore . I don't believe this is right to anyone who has a pet and takes good care of their pet . I do agree that if a pet harms someone then they should have the right to have the pet put down but just because one dog bites someone does not mean that all dogs are going to do this and all pets shouldn't be forced to undergo something like this because of one rotten egg .
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@teapotmommommerced (10359)
• United States
24 Jun 07
I agree just because one does it does not mean they all will
@syndibee (799)
• United States
21 Jun 07
unfortunately i do feel that laws like this are necessary, and need to be strictly enforced. i do feel that the laws are not for you responsible pet owners but for those that are irresponsible. and i don't feel that it will be irresponsible pet owners responding to this post. it's odd that they think this particular law will deal with the issues of viscious dogs because to me it's just not connected. i do feel that the viscious pets do need to be removed from the irresponsible homes somehow.
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@teapotmommommerced (10359)
• United States
24 Jun 07
The theory of spay or neutering the vicious dogs is that sometimes that calms them down and makes them tamer. I still thing once a killer always a killer and if a killer instink is breed into a dog there is not much you can do. Now I might be wrong about that.
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@craftcatcher (3699)
• United States
21 Jun 07
I think it's a great idea. Around my area there are 2 no kill shelters that are completely full to overflowing. All the animal shelters that only keep animals for a short period of time before killing them are also full to overflowing. It's just ridiculous. If more people would get their pets fixed this wouldn't happen and a lot of needless suffering for these animals could be avoided.
I also think it would cut down on attacks. Animals who are fixed are usually less aggressive unless they are trained to be otherwise.
I personally wouldn't own an animal that wasn't fixed. The benefits far outweight the cost in my opinion.
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@teapotmommommerced (10359)
• United States
21 Jun 07
I have always fixed all my pets. I tell them if momma can't have babies neither can you. LOL.
We use to live in the country and would get lots of dogs dumped around our house. We where always taking dogs in to the animal control, one time I called them to set a trap and some dog food. Within minutes we cought a little dog that was hungry in a small animal live trap. If I took in every dog that was dumped at our home we would have had enough pets for a petting zoo but only one breed. LOL
@KissThis (3003)
• United States
21 Jun 07
I personally have had my dogs fixed so that they won't be parents. That is a choice I made. There are some people who aren't breeders that would like for their pets to have puppies. I think that as long as they are responsible for their pets then they should have the right to decide for themselves.
I live in Central Illinois. If my dogs weren't spayed and neutered then I would have to pay a higher licensing fee. I think that if more pet owners acted responsibly then you wouldn't see these types of laws being proposed.
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@teapotmommommerced (10359)
• United States
24 Jun 07
You are correct if there was reposnsible pet owners the dog pound would be out of business
@trk918 (254)
• United States
21 Jun 07
I think people should spay or neuter their pets if they don't want to breed them. A law, maybe not. I keep seeing people give away & dump baby animals all of the time. I have personally rescued several animals that have been dumbed by the owner. It is very frustrating to watch an animal starve & be homeless.
As far as the owners of the pitbulls they needed to keep those dogs locked up. They are a known breed to be vicious.
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@teapotmommommerced (10359)
• United States
24 Jun 07
It is sad that breeding can make a dog mean, and yes I agree that thoes dogs should have been locked up.
