Should men give up their seat on subway or bus for Ladies?

@golfproo (1839)
Canada
June 23, 2007 2:27pm CST
Ok, I realize this may be a little controversial, but I ran into two experiences within the last week which made me wonder about this scenario. First of all I was on the subway and it was packed. There was a middle aged woman who was standing and about 8 men sitting in their seats. I got up to give her my seat while all the others pretended not to notice. She was grateful. Then later in the same week I offered my seat to another lady and she proceeded to rudely remind me that she does not need any MAN to give up his seat to HER. What do other people do here. Am I wrong to think that this is still in good taste? cheers,
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@Amstardam (1348)
• United States
23 Jun 07
I don't think woman deserve to get a seat on the bus/subway whatever in place of a man. Woman want to be treated equally in the work place etc, then it needs to be treated equally everywhere. I would give up my seat for anyone and I usually do. I do it to be nice, but sometimes it's looked down upon because I'm a woman and "we don't do that." Whatever. If you want to be nice, be nice and don't let some ungrateful mean woman discourage you from doing that.
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• Singapore
24 Jun 07
Wow! My exact sentiments. I would not give up my seat just because a woman is standing. That being said, I would give up my seat for anybody whom I think needs it more than me. Regardless of race or gender.
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@Amstardam (1348)
• United States
24 Jun 07
Exactly! But because this world is getting so "politically correct" we can't do anything nice for someone otherwise we're accused of doing something wrong!
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@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
23 Jun 07
No not wrong at all. I do this quite often when I see older men and women standing in the aisles, even mothers with children. I am female and 36 and have always been told by my parents to respect your elders and this also means giving up your seat for others. I am surprised that lady said that to you as I would of taken it as a sign of respect and a nice gesture by you if I was offered a seat on the bus or metro, even at my age. My husband always gives up his seat for women who are standing in the aisles and I think he should. It's a polite thing to do :) So good on you! I take my hat off to you :)
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@golfproo (1839)
• Canada
23 Jun 07
Thank you...I was beginning to wonder if I was totally out of touch. :) cheers,
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@4ftfingers (1310)
23 Jun 07
I'm really annoyed about this kind of thing too. I am a man and I like to give up my seat to ladies. I would feel uncomfortable if I didn't. But one time my friend and I were on the train and he offered his seat to a woman (she was a business type, suited and reading her paper) and she threw it back in his face with a comment like 'eugh you sexist pig!' That really annoyed him (it would annoy me to), because it wasn't necissary, she could have politely refused. He's not one to keep quiet like me so he replied with something like 'oh tuck your balls back into your knickers!' So you could be damned if you do and could be damned if you don't. Some women are appreciative, but others seem to think that offering you're seat to them is something that should have been left in the '90's.
@deebomb (15304)
• United States
24 Jun 07
I had a good laugh at your friends remark 'oh tuck your balls back into your knickers!' she desrved it. Why can't people at least be polite about declining a seat.
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@golfproo (1839)
• Canada
23 Jun 07
Yes, I did not say anything when I was rudely rebuffed. However, if the situation was reversed and I was in that lady's spot I would have just politely said no thank you. Some people.... cheers,
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• Australia
24 Jun 07
WOW!!! I just dont know what to say to that, i feel that annoyed by what that woman said i feel like i need to apologise on behalf of us ladies!! Not that a woman like that deserves the title "lady". How can your friend be a sexist pig by mearly offering your seat. if anything a sexist pig would not offer a seat bcoz they would believe that women keep winging about having the same rites as men therefore she should stand. i am absolutley mortified by that.
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@hcromer (2710)
• United States
23 Jun 07
I don't think that men should give their seats up for women unless the woman is carrying around a child or if she is pregnant or disabled. I can stand up on a bus just as well as a man can, if he got there first he shouldn't have to give his seat up for me unless maybe I know him.
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@sidoney (1033)
• Jamaica
23 Jun 07
I think that was great of you to do that just that some people has issues i am a woman and i have given my seat up before on more than one occasion but only to old men and women and pregnant women
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@mattyg2k7 (215)
23 Jun 07
well this is a tuff 1 i say not always as women are always saying they want to be treated equaly so i say if there is nothing wrong with the women then you should stay put but if for example they are sick or are having a bad day then yes let them sit there just like if it is an old women and also if the women is pregnant
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@golfproo (1839)
• Canada
23 Jun 07
It never ceases to amaze me when people will not get up and give their seat to an elderly person.
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@Stiletto (4579)
24 Jun 07
I wouldn't expect a man to give up his seat for me - why should he? I'm just as able to stand on the bus as he is! I think everyone (men and women) should give up their seats for the elderly, pregnant women, women with small children and anyone else who is obviously more in need of the seat than they are. If a man offered his seat to me I would refuse but I would do so politely.
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@golfproo (1839)
• Canada
24 Jun 07
I respect your opinion. I also respect that you would do this in a polite manner. :) cheers,
@jahvo6 (623)
• Peru
23 Jun 07
Well here for example is common that younger people give seat to elder ones, never heard an older women complainig about someone GIVING their seat, weird,
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@tinamwhite (3252)
• United States
23 Jun 07
Well, I am a 46 yr. old female...my husband still opens the car door for me and opens the door to any place that we go to together...I raised my sons with these same manners....I understand and agree with many of the "women rights" issues..BUT I would expect you to get up for me and would not think much of a man who was healthy...NOT giving his seat up for a woman... I feel that you are handling things correctly, my friend...as with everything else in the world....someone will see it differently and you just have to look to yourself for the best way to handle these things..... FYI...I got antibiotics for my abscessed tooth and am feeling much better now....thanks for asking, my friend...
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@golfproo (1839)
• Canada
23 Jun 07
I am glad you are feeling better :) It seems like opinion is divided on this one :) cheers,
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• Canada
24 Jun 07
my husband is the same way, and has always been this way. Our sons have also been raised the same way. If I am on public transportation then I would give my seat up for a elderly person, or a mom with a child.
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• United States
1 Jul 07
Thanks so much for awarding me with the best response....
@lynboobsy11 (11343)
• Philippines
24 Jun 07
It is very sad that today in a new generations of youngs there are less gentlemen every where. I experienced it before riding in a train here in my country that are very crowded and even old ladies are standing and some men are just sitting and no one has a good heart to ask a girl to take his seats. Okay I can understand them if they can't give their seats to a young lady coz young can stand the pain for long stand but the old how they can intentionaly give their seats to the olds.? I can't understand why the respect too is already gone...
@golfproo (1839)
• Canada
24 Jun 07
My personal opinion is that there is absolutely no excuse for not giving up your seat to an elderly person. cheers,
@devilsangel (1817)
• United States
24 Jun 07
Well in today's world I'd say thats a concept far outdated. I think that it is a bit sexest as a woman to think that just because she's a female a man has to give up anything for her. It bugs the crap outta me actually. Women swear they want equal rights and to be treated fairly and the same as men so frankly thats what should be done. I'm female and I wouldn't expect anyone to give up their seat to me because of it. Now if she was pregnant or had a kid with her or something thats different. Those are the only times I am willing to part my seat, outside of the elderly and handicap. Anyone else can stand.
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@golfproo (1839)
• Canada
24 Jun 07
I guess it all depends upon how someone was raised. Everybody has differing opinions. cheers,
• Australia
24 Jun 07
You know what... that lady is a rude cow. Instead of trying to prove herself to you, couldnt she of just been greatful??? Some people in this world are like that unfortunately, but i think it is very nice to see some chivalry left out there!! Im 20 and i dont expect a man to stand up for me only because im young and i can stand up without breaking a hip and why should he have to stand up and lose his seat for me? how ever it is a nice gesture. when it comes to the elderly, feeble and pregnant women then yes i think men and WOMEN should give up their seats so no your not out of touch at all!!!!
@golfproo (1839)
• Canada
24 Jun 07
You make some good points. Pregnant women and the elderly should certainly be given seats.
@paychecks (104)
• United States
24 Jun 07
I think everyone who is sitting on a bus or subway should only offer their seats to elderly people, pregnant women, and women or men with small children. I remember once when I was about 8 months pregnant and I was sitting down on seat and the bus was packed and I was in the front row and there were other elderly people on the bus who already had a seat and this eldery man made a rude comment to me about not getting up and giving him my seat. But I told him he can kiss my you know what because my feet hurt and I wanst going to stand up while I was 8 months pregnant.
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@golfproo (1839)
• Canada
24 Jun 07
Without a doubt....people should give up their seats for a pregnant lady. cheers :)
@eadward (140)
• Brazil
23 Jun 07
I don't believe man should give seats on transports for women just because they are women. If they are loaded with stuff, pregnant, or old, that is other thing. It may be polite to give your seat to a woman, but not an obligation to stand for a young and healthy woman just because she was born a woman. Sometimes you are tired, you are loaded with cargo and such. And sometimes you just don't WANT TO.
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@golfproo (1839)
• Canada
24 Jun 07
lol...that is true :)
@Galena (9110)
23 Jun 07
I wouldn't say that they have to. a woman is as capable of standing as a man is. but I would never be offended if a man was to show me such good old fashioned gentlemanly manners.
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@golfproo (1839)
• Canada
23 Jun 07
Thank you for the response. I guess that is what I am upset about. Why the strong reaction from this lady?
@archer1811 (1098)
• Philippines
28 Jun 07
Well, on my own observation nowadays, there are only few man acts as gentleman when it comes to that, i am a woman but whenever im on the train and saw an old woman standing i actually give my seat to her. I admire you for being gentleman. Though other women tend to remain standing at least you offer help for her.
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@argie713 (1809)
• Philippines
24 Jun 07
It is appropriate for a man to give up his seat to a woman. Some women take this as an insult. They must be very proud to be a woman that they would not mind standing. You are a gentleman. You must not change your ways even if some women does not like what you do.
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@golfproo (1839)
• Canada
24 Jun 07
Thank you for the comment argie. I will not change even if I get yelled at again :) cheers,
• China
24 Jun 07
It is very good for a man to give up his seat to a lady.But it is not a must.Giving up your seat to a lady shows you are polite.But you do not is your choise.And it does not say you are not polite.Right?But if the lady looks weak or have a baby or pregnant,you should,either you are a man or not.They needs your help.
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@golfproo (1839)
• Canada
24 Jun 07
Yes, I do believe it is a choice. Everyone is raised differently and have different values. cheers :)
@decent07 (232)
• India
24 Jun 07
treating men and women equally is very nice but you did a good job by diong this u prove yourself well mannered and good person.
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@golfproo (1839)
• Canada
24 Jun 07
Thank you for this comment. It is just the way I was raised and I cna't see myself changing now. :) cheers,
@singod (25)
• China
24 Jun 07
It's very nice of you!If I were that women,I will thank you.But if I were you,I will not give up my seat.Because I suffer from dizziness on broad. Once I give the seat to a old man.When I get off the bus,I feel like throwing up and until next day I feel a little better.
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@golfproo (1839)
• Canada
24 Jun 07
Yes I actually get a little car sick myself. The worst was when I had to stand up and be facing backwards :( cheers :)