The Evolution of Religion
@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
United States
July 7, 2007 9:45am CST
What is the next step?
The Sacrifice of Love, was known to be flawed for any people needing to give anything other than themselves for the actions that they committed is not in line with the true love of any god...
A god demanding such a sacrifice is much less of a god than the GOD that knows with a word all is forgiven.
Some great lies have been told about the Sacrifice of Love, how people and GOD forgive, how souls are saved. The truth is that exposing the lies of millenniums the fathers lies, the tales of Satan, the work of the Devil and evil here on Earth allowed nation to war against nation.
In order to create peace you have to find out what is wanted... Being diplomatic is a tool of survival, but is that tool used, or do we seek to destroy claiming that this is survival of the fittest. After all the better liar is able to justify almost anything, with exception to the truth.
If I say that Jesus didn't have to be sacrificed on a cross for your sins, am I sacrilegous? Well I don't think so, I look at the life of Jesus as a real person and a teacher, I believe that Jesus actually existed, but I don't believe Jesus had to die for my sins, I believe that I am accountable for my own actions and that following the leading of Jesus I can know GOD.
As I try to explain my point of view it is amazing to me how many people shut down and stop dead in their tracks to find other things to think about.
Could Satan be the biggest lie recorded, both in the Bible and the Quran?
I believe that the sacred book of life is written on each and every heart, and we all have a contributing part of the story. The story of life and love.
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@saigonwarrior (1331)
• United States
7 Jul 07
I was a long standing member of the Church of God for many, many years and now I am no longer. After leaving the church I tried to find other churches or religions to fill the void. I started exploring on my own what I felt was the meaning of life, religion, God..etc.
The pastor of the Church of God wanted me to follow blindly what he said without question. I am an intelligent woman, I have a mind of my own, why should I not explore every aspect of life?
Yes, after researching I did find many discrepancies in Christian religion. I found most churches if not all having many, many pagan origins and traditions. They preach against paganism and then turn a blind eye to some very pagan traditions being enacted in their own church. I found this hypocrisy just too much to bear and broke away from any type of organized religion.
I now believe the church is within yourself. I give, help, donate, show acts of kindness of my own free will and not because I am told to by some religious leader.
I am what I am and when I die, I will be accountable for my actions.
What kind of God of "love" would allow people that he loves whether they sin or not (he is supposed to still love), burn in a "Hell" of fire until all eternity? Kind of hard to believe. I think things that we have been taught are not correct. What the truth is, I am not sure, but I no longer believe in organized Christian religion anymore.
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@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
8 Jul 07
I'm with you,
The word is 'Saved' and GOD knows that and I believe in GOD but I don't believe in 'ALL' of what was recorded in the Bible or in the Quran, to be the word of GOD, I see that what these books have become are tools to make lazy people wealthy by controlling and hurting others.
Kudo's to you,
Peace and Blessings,
Sincerely,
Gary
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
8 Jul 07
Well I have thought about this for a day! and you have made very good points here. I to beleive he didnt have to die for our sins. What ever they maybe.
And it would be nice if all peoples told the truth.
I dont beleive for one minute that any war is fought for religion altho some try to state that is what it is for . It is more for the money! They want to go into their pockets and the pour troops souldiers or insurgents are told so many lies that they just are fighting becuase they are told that is what is best for thier country . And our troops fight because they are sent off to some foriegn country to fight for what they call domocrasy(sp).When we all know it is for the high ups to save their money that they have in a oil company and they want more money!.I think I have put this right in words I know what I want to say in my head but not sure that it has came out right in this writting.
Blessings
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@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
8 Jul 07
You are doing fine in what you are trying to say and there is much more.
The liars that lie to lead us into war have created a huge blood stain on the Earth, the wound we created could heal if we fix the damage and leave it alone. Instead we keep picking at it creating an infection that will kill the living.
War is a poison, it can be antidoted and it takes a spiritual awakening to find the cure. Conscientious Objectors and holding the lying leaders accountable for their crimes.
That is the way to move forward to the new day of peace.
Peace and Blessings to you and yours,
Sincerely,
Gary
@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
9 Jul 07
Can we force them to confess?
Actually our leaders have already admitted to using lies to lead our troops into this war, they have already confessed and we have evidence that the information was manipulated it is now time for the authorities to act and remove the harm and the leaders that caused the harm to so many.
If the powers don't act soon will it be too late? Or is there another day coming a day of reckoning? The word on the street is that good ole President George W. Bush has plans to live in Dubai now watch and mark my words that in order to escape international war crimes investigation this sitting duck plans to leave the country that he supposedly one would think loves and loves to lead. With the low approval rating we speak volumes about his future and his legacy for many of us do not like being lied to or about.
If I was the leader of a super power I might accept that many don't like my decisions or choices we don't have to agree on everything, but I wouldn't want to be hated for my decisions being the most hated man on Earth is not the title I would want written next to my name like Hitler or Saddam Hussein... The Bush is burning, the nation is sinking and the skipper or captain of the ship has driven our country and barve countrymen and women into danger. Deceptions and Karma has a way of working here and now and into the future.
Good night, I'm done for this day, I'm all typed out...
Have a great week,
Enjoy
@the_vicar (1477)
• United States
9 Jul 07
In my humble opinion, most people miss the point of their religion. Mine is Christianity and the message is quite simple.....do t other people what I want done to me. In other words, if I don't want my things stolen, then I shouldn't steal.....if I don't want people to say mean things to me, then I shouldn't say mean things to other people.
The religion isn't saying that if someone says something mean to me, then I should say something to someone else because it happened to me. My religion says to forgive that person so that I can be pure of heart and not say something to someone else.
Does it mean that I have to take what other people dish out? No! But I must answer them the same way I would want someone else to answer me If I said or did the same thing.
@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
9 Jul 07
I do understand what you are trying to tell me, I see that if someone says something mean to me and I report not just that they were mean but maybe also lying to the proper authorities then my report should be acted upon. See this is much different than what you are teaching.
In your situation you have someone being mean to you or lying about you and so you go to others and gossip or be mean or lie about that other person. That I too would call a sin.
I'm saying that someone was mean and lied about me and I tried to report the person and expose the wrong to the proper authorities. I got punished for doing the right thing.
Now I open up the Bible and turn to book and verse Matthew 18:15 Jesus teaches how to Treat a Brother (or Sister) who sins: If a person sins against you go and show them their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, then you have won them over. But, if they will not listen, take one or two or three others along, so that every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses. If they refuse to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, then treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector. (Now if the church becomes the sinner along with the offender and liar and no one will listen to you.)
"I tell you the turth; whatever, you bind on Earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on Earth will be loosed in heaven." (If the church excommunicates me, and I am the innocent victim and I loosen the church on Earth as a result, the church is also loosened from Heaven. The church is not of GOD and GOD is not found in the church!"
"Again, I tell you that if two of you on Earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by GOD in Heaven. For where two or three come together in the name of Jesus there I am with them."
