Court

@dfollin (24307)
United States
July 14, 2007 3:54pm CST
I was in small claims court yesterday.And everything went into my favor.But,when the judge comes into the court room,why do we rise? As I told a new friend there.Yes,he's a judge,but he is human just like the rest of us.I can see calling him sir when we are adressing him,but I think the custom of rising is carrying it a bit too far.It's not like he is Jesus.What do you think? I know,we do this out of respect.But,why more respect for him then any other any other human that has made it to a good job.Our taxes are paying the judges salary.
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• New Zealand
14 Jul 07
It is a sign of respect for someone who is in a authority position and who at times has to make difficult dissions lets face it since you won your case was standing for a couple of seconds really that hard?
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@dfollin (24307)
• United States
14 Jul 07
No,I did not say it was hard and I said that I understand respect.I simply aasked why do we stand.Iam a mother and a teacher I make important discissions.Who stands for me.I guess then Iam not respected.
@dfollin (24307)
• United States
15 Jul 07
We never did when I was in school.I teach part time and they don't now and I would not expect them to.
• New Zealand
14 Jul 07
gee sorry i guess schools changed since i went we all used to stand when our teachers came into the classroom as i said a sign respect and we all respected our teachers to.
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@TerryZ (22076)
• United States
14 Jul 07
LOL You got that right. I think its stupid to rise too. Thats so funny because I was in court about a month ago and I was thinking the same thing. Hey great minds think alike!hahahah
@dfollin (24307)
• United States
14 Jul 07
Thank you Terry,someone finally understand's what Iam saying completely.I understand that the judge make big discission's but so do mom's,dad's,teachchers,paster's,manager's,etc.Do we rise for them?We are all human we are not always right.Iam not saying that I do not respect them I respect my pastor too,but I do not rise for him.Iam a mom and a teacher,does anyone rise for me....no.Now if Jesus walked in the room that would be a different story,I'd rise for Him.
@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
15 Jul 07
This is something that always had me wondered if this was really the truth (just seen it on the movies) Here in sweden we do not rise, usually the judge is there before they let all the people in. We also do not have juryduty here. Beeing a "jury" is actually a job here =) Anyways, when I lived in turkey for a year we had to go see a judge at one time. We were shown intio a room and there was chairs there so we sat down (just like we would have in sweden) and we were yelled at and thretened to be thrown in jail for showing a great lack of respect. We had to remain standing for the whole thing and we were not to speak unless we were told to.. very strange experiance for me =)
@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
16 Jul 07
hehe, so then the movies are true than =) Like I said - always wondered =)
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
14 Jul 07
It is to show respect. The judge has been given authority. He represents the civil government and would you not respect your government? What if the president came in? Would you sit down and loll on your chair? No you would rise. Do you value the opinion of the court? Oh and do you think the judge should give someone else a favorable opinion even though the people pay his salary? Even if that opinion is wrong? What if A keyed B's car? Do you suppose the judge should not let A pay because A's taxes paid part of the judge's salary? According to your view, the judge should do what you want, the police should let you get away with not paying a ticket, because you pay their salary. The judges and police have a higher authority to answer than you. Both spent years and time plus money on getting their education and they are better than you and they are also paying taxes like you. So you had better rise when a judge enters the room.
@dfollin (24307)
• United States
14 Jul 07
I do rise when he comes in the court room.And I did not say anything about him or a cop taking my side because I pay taxes.I said yes,respect.There are alot of people thou that have got an education,but people doin't rise when he or she walk's into the room.I teach part time and my student's value what I say but they don't rise when I walk into the classroom.My kids value my opinion,but they don't rise when I walk into the room and my friends as well.Opinion poll taker's value other human's opinion's,but they don't rise for them.In the court room,it's a rule you have to rise.Do you rise when your pastor comes in the room? We don't and I have never seen it done at any church I have ever visited.Now as far as respecting our government,that's another discussion.Oh yeah,how do you know that he is better than me and I have not spent years,time and money getting an education?
@dfollin (24307)
• United States
15 Jul 07
I did stand .And yes he deserves respect,but so do I and alot of other people.No,he is not more than a human being when he put's his robe on.He is still a human being.Only Jesus Christ is more than a human being! Ok,when the Judge put's his robe on that is what he wears at work the same as the guy that work's at McDonald's or Wal-Mart.It just so happen's his job make's more vital decission's effecting a person's life more crucially.The guy at McDonalds or WalMart make's desicions,not just as vital as the judge's.Iam a parent and I have to make crucial decission's everyday that can effect my daughter's life.But,do I expect people to walk into the room when I rise or I will kick them out of the room.Yes,a judge deserves respect,like alot of people do.I just think they take it a bit too far by telling people that they have to rise.
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• United States
15 Jul 07
You are rising out of respect to the United States of America, the Flag which sits directly behind the bench, and the system of jurisprudence which allows us to live free under the Constitution. Indirectly, you are also rising in honor of that Constitution. You rise in acknowledgement of your acceptance of the authority of this Court, and the judge who presides over it. It isn't about the person occupying the bench, it's about the office they hold and the role they play in their particular part of the greater whole that is our wonderful U.S. of A. Besides, you'd have to be a dolt to want to antagonize the person who is about to hear the facts and make a ruling on the issue that concerns you, right?
@AmbiePam (85992)
• United States
14 Jul 07
I don't mind rising for a judge. I did when I was called for jury duty (thankfully I wasn't picked), but I think it is somewhat appropriate. I don't know when the whole rising thing came to be, probably something we got from the English courts. But the judge in a lot of cases has a life of a human being in their proverbial hand. Even if it is a small matter, the judge makes the decision, or governs over a jury that looks to him/her for guidance. So while I know some judges are crooked, as are all professions, I don't mind too much when I rise to greet a judge. They have a lot of responsibility on their shoulders. I'm just thankful I'm sitting there in handcuffs. : )
@dfollin (24307)
• United States
14 Jul 07
At least you understand mostly what Iam saying.Thank you.My point is that there are plenty of other people that make important decission's and no one rises for them.Like use mom's,dad's,teacher's,store manager's,police,office manager's,pastors,etc.But we are human's so we don't always make the right decission.
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@dfollin (24307)
• United States
15 Jul 07
Lol,that's funny! Iam supprised we don't have to do that to.Don't tell anyone they might get the idea to make it a law.Lol.
@AmbiePam (85992)
• United States
14 Jul 07
When you posted this, I immediately thought of policemen. Forget about rising, I'll shine their shoes for them! : )
@eden32 (3973)
• United States
14 Jul 07
I think it's just a form of greeting the judge. If your at a resteruant & a friend walks about to your table, you rise to shake hands & stay standing until they take their seat. I think it's just a variation of that custom, but I could be mistaken.
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@dfollin (24307)
• United States
14 Jul 07
Yep,usually it's a man thing.And at a court they tell you that you have to.I can see it now in court the bailif say's,"All men rise...." Lol
@AmbiePam (85992)
• United States
14 Jul 07
I never thought about that. I get up when a friend approaches too. I guess a lot of us do.
@KrisNY (7590)
• United States
16 Jul 07
Tradition I think- And some jobs are more important than others- It is normal to call the judge “your honor” and raising alerts people that the trial or case is to be started- I find nothing wrong with this- I don’t take it as meaning that judges are better human beings than the rest of us- It means to me that there jobs are more influential- They rule by law on the cases-
@hoghoney (3747)
• United States
15 Jul 07
yes it is out of respect and I sometime wonder why we stand but it is something that has been done for many of years. I feel the same as you but I also stand when they come in. Hugs!
@dfollin (24307)
• United States
15 Jul 07
Yep,another strange law.
@RobinJ (2501)
• Canada
15 Jul 07
I believe that it is a historical thing. And to show respect for the law, and possibly the dispensers of it. That being said some judges should be taken to task for their interpretation of the law. And that being said some of our laws need to be updated and revised. And that can only come from the people that get out and vote the law makers and judges into office. I think it is a vicious circle. As for standing when a judge enters a court room, It only indicates that the court in now in session, and in a way just a way to bring that fact to peoples attention.
• United States
16 Jul 07
It's just a sign of respect. I don't think it's for any other reason but that. I think it's just a thing that everyone has just done for a long time. Like standing and taking off your hat when you say the Pledge of Allegiance or the National Anthem. This question would be like asking why we stand at weddings when they bride comes down the aisle. It's just something we do.
@smileonstar (4007)
• United States
15 Jul 07
I know what you mean here... but it shows some respect for him and you know what? he is the only person in that place can order you to do this and that... so that's why we are respecting him. that's what they say, he has the power.... just like you respect your teacher... same thing.
@dfollin (24307)
• United States
15 Jul 07
Yes,I respect his position in his job.I do not know him well enough to say if I like him or not as a person.He seemed pretty nice and fair.Right now Iam a part time teacher during the school year.Yes,my students respect me,but they do not rise for me.You said "just like your teacher" no it is not just like your teacher.
@sunkissed (4330)
• United States
14 Jul 07
Well dfollin, I feel the same way that you do, I have been to court my share of times also, and had to stand when the Judge walked into the courtroom, to me this is dumb, this man is no better than You or I. He puts his pants an the same way that we do. As a matter of fact, I do not really have much respect for very many of the judges now days, there are so many of them that are very crocked.Just as the cops are. You read in the papers all the time that one is being arrested for this or that, They are human beings, they sin too.The judisial system and the government both are very corrupt.
@dfollin (24307)
• United States
14 Jul 07
Lol,I was thinking the same thing,"He puts his pant's on the same as I do." Yep,I hear the news and see crooked cops and lawyers all the time.Exactly,they are human beings who sin too. If you go back and read my response to response #1 you will see how I responded to respecting our government.
@dfollin (24307)
• United States
15 Jul 07
It was funny.God always know's what happened in my life this week.Most of the time the message that the pastor's give are usually about what happened.Today we were talking about shuting out people because of them being different.That is another discussion that I replied to.But,he also said and I could not believe it said the exact line I needed to hear.He was telling how he was the pastor and someone was reffering to him as someone special and he said,"Iam just following God's plan for me as one of His children spreading His word.Iam not better than you or anyone else I PUT MY PANT'S ON THE SAME WAY." LOL.When he said that it was all I could do to keep from laughing! After service I was talking to him and telling him about court and this discussion.He said I was right that we are all alike,human being's,God's children and sinner's.Just because he put's that robe on,as some said in an earlier post,he is not more than human.
@vicki2876 (5636)
• Canada
15 Jul 07
I think it can also be to get things in order. Like now everyone should know that the case is beginning and that there should be quiet or something. If it is out of respect maybe it is respect for the court system too. I wouldn't take it personally though because when everyone does it all the time it doesn't matter and loses its meaning. Like when I always do the dishes (no big deal) Howard does the dishes (give him a medal). LOL Glad things went in your favor Donna. Vicki