I don't pretend to be a Christian, but. . .

Christian Ornament - This ornament is on a church in San Francisco Ca.
@barehugs (8973)
Canada
July 15, 2007 1:14pm CST
I can't understand why Christians are so passive about the Church Child Abuse Scandles. Yesterday I noticed, (near the back pages) in the Paper that the LA Diocese is paying out $300 million to settle up abuse claims. There must be Hundreds of Thousands of claims! Hundreds of thousands of Innocent lives, Ruined by these Pious Monsters. But who's objecting? Nobody cares! Its a Non-issue! And its not only Priests and Pastors, but Bishops and Archbishops who have been charged. The abuse is bad enough, but the coverup by Church Leaders is the Most Heinous of Crimes. And still, almost No objecting Christians! What would it take to start a Backlash against the Church Hierachy? Its obvious that Nothing at all will Happen! It seems that Christians in general, are so Brain-washed by Religious Rhetoric, that Nothing Would, or Nothing Could, Ever change their Brain-set.
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@sunshinecup (7871)
15 Jul 07
I don't understand why you feel no one cares. BTW before I go any further, let me say I don't go to church. I have a HUGE post on that from several months back, if you ever wish to validate that. Ok, what would it take to prove to you yes, we Christians care about these issues and are deeply sicken by them? I don't understand what it is you see or are not seeing so it would help for me to better answer your question if I knew what it is exactly. BTW no attacks here, just looks like this could be an interesting converstation.
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@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
15 Jul 07
If Christians as a Group cared, there would be a Huge Outcry. People would quit the church in Droves. But it hasn't happened and its not going to. Its not even news now. Its been cleanly swept under the carpet! So much for the Christian theosophy!
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15 Jul 07
Well while I personally can't stand church for all of it's politics, I don't understand why all should stop going because of this. It wasn't the idea of worshipping together that caused these horrible deeds, but sick men. Their acts shouldn't dispel people from practicing their faiths. Going to church for many is part of that. In essence you are suggesting if one still attends church they support perverted twisted freaks. I don’t think the two are related. I have not met one person that felt these monsters that committed these acts and those that covered them, shouldn’t have been prosecuted. Some even wanted worse done with them.
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@lucy02 (5016)
• United States
15 Jul 07
People go to church to worship God. Why would anyone quit for this reason? It has nothing to do with these criminals. I think they should be in jail but please don't tell me I should be leaving church because of what they did when that doesn't have anything to do with why I'm going in the first place.
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@emisle (3822)
• Ireland
15 Jul 07
I can't understand why it wouldn't be a main story. I know that some Irish Catholic priests have been named and shamed, good thing I'm not very attached to my religion. I think if you look at the church's history, particularly the Catholic Church, there has been a lot of corruption in its past and yet it has still managed to thrive. And what I hate the most are the hypocrites who condemn and judge others when you could rip their Church to shreds...it's a strange world.
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@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
16 Jul 07
Father giving his Blessing - The Archbishop gives his blessing!
Yes, very strange isn't it!
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@DeenaD (2684)
• United States
16 Jul 07
I don't think people are passive - changes are already occurring both inside and outside the church that will make it difficult for this kind of thing to happen in the future. If people "seem" passive, maybe it's just old news by now - this story broke years ago, and there's only so long that people can sustain emotional outrage, no matter how hard the media tries to keep us frenzied.
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@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
22 Jul 07
yeah perhaps its so old its rotten by now The stink will remain for ever tho!
• United States
15 Jul 07
it is weird. i guess they feel like if they do not admit to knowing then they are not guilty. it is one of those dont look, dont tell type of things. That is why alot of people find religion all a hypocrisy. Because in religion, they say Judge not...yet they judge. They say dont lay with others in bed...yet they molest children...no i am not saying ALL people in religion do this...by no means...but that .001% makes the rest look bad
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@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
16 Jul 07
Only some do the abuse, but others cover for them, and don't tell me the Pope was kept in the dark. Hes got his finger in it too! You can be sure of it. After all He's the "Holy Father" of it all.
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• United States
16 Jul 07
If I remember correctly , when the story first came out, there was alot of outrage from all types of Christians.But Americans have short attention spands. And the press went on the next big story.There had to be a huge cover up for this to go on for so long.I don't think that Christians are brainwashed. But if you are not Catholic, you follow the story from a far.I believe there are many outraged Christians, who are not Catholic, out there but they won't bad mouth the whole Catholic Church.So I don't think it is being brainwashing but political correctness that is stopping the outrage you want to see.
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• United States
23 Jul 07
I am not a Christian either so I am only guessing but I don't think their religion is being defiled.Especially if they are not Catholic.Is it political? I don't know.
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
22 Jul 07
well I really don't care. I;m not a believer anyway. But i'm curious! About Christians sitting there with fingers in bum, not speaking out, when Their Church and all it stands for, is being defiled.....is this political?
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@gypsygoth (244)
• Philippines
16 Jul 07
I've been a devout catholic in my younger years but after seeing such horrible things i've started to loose faith in it _ for one when they say "secrecy during confession" it doesnt mean they can still say a person's story during homily only they didnt mention his/her name. its twisted, all these religioun politics dont make them any different from the state politics that they most often than not continue to oppose :P if you're into history, you should look into my country's history. i live in the philippines and for 300 years we've been subject to the abuse of religious powers yet none of the people back then dared to oppose until some heros showed up to fight for the cause. i dont think its any different now, they're still up to their acts, trying to act all good but behind it all they cant live up to what they practice. i think if they want people to respect them, they should at least set a good example, but instead they just give excuses and say "we're only human." Jesus incarnated into human is an example that we can be like him and its not impossible. ah well _ religious issues like this really flares me up most of the time XD
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@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
16 Jul 07
Thanks for your "confession" You are a person who can think for yourself, Congratulations on that! Keep up the good Work!
@Flint275 (60)
• United States
17 Jul 07
I understand your anger. I also am deeply bothered by the wrong doings of the church. I am a born again christian. I can't believe that a man that teaches the word of god could ever do such a thing. plase try to understand that not all christians are brainwashed. especially this christian. I see and hear just as well as you. I think that the reason why most christians are blind to this is because they are in utter disbelief and they dont want to think about it. Instead of being angry at christians be angry at the people who did it just because priests did this does not mean that all christians are evil.
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