What's with all these "I hate" clubs?

@vega83 (6340)
Bahrain
July 21, 2007 5:06am CST
I'm sure we've all come across these "i hate someone" communities, like "I hate Britney Spears" or "i hate John Cena". What I don't understand is if I really hated someone that much then why would I want to spend so much time and effort in making a community about the same person and hence making them more popular. Why would anyone waste their time talking about something they hate, when there isn't enough time in the world to talk about all the things we love? It just doesn't make any sense. What do you think? Would you spend your time and effort into something like that? Are you a member of some "I hate" club or community? And do you think that it is a waste of time and effort? I mean, seriously, would you rather talk about something you hate or something you love?
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• Australia
21 Jul 07
totally agree with you, have never understood that myself. i think people find it easier to say what they hate as appose to what they love. you ask a group of people what they like about themselves and what they dislike the majority would be able to real off many reasons that they dislike in themselves but would be quite stumped at giving you an equal amount of reasons for why they love themselves. so i guess this would follow through to how they see others
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
21 Jul 07
Well, I'm grateful I'm not one of them. I love talking about things I love and if you ask me to find things I like about myself there will be lots. I guess that has a lot to do with confidence. Either that, or I'm just cocky, ha ha.
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• Australia
21 Jul 07
good to hear, i think people also spend too much time focusing on fixing the negatives about themselves instead of relishing and praising their positive traits. i know in life u can't have one without the other but if u focus on the positive i do believe more positive comes to you than the negative.
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
22 Jul 07
Yeah that is true, we all come with our pros and cons, but if we focus on the pros then we can definitely cultivate them and make them even better.
@raychill (6525)
• United States
21 Jul 07
Well, Everyone has the same comment. It's a waste of time and energy and etc. etc why go to that time and energy blah blah. I agree, don't get me wrong. But think about it. When you join a club, say a fan club, what's the point? To have a bunch of people with the same interest in someone/thing get together and talk about how much they love this person/thing. What's a hate club? the same thing. a bunch of people with the same distaste in a person/thing who get together and talk about how much they don't like this person/thing. If you (you being a generalized term and not you specifically) think it's a waste of time to talk about how much those people who make clubs to hate things, you're (again generalized not you specifically) are in essence doing the same thing. Everyone talks about things they don't like. Heck look at the comments to news articles about Paris Hilton. Half the time it's people writing about how stupid it is that they're wasting time writing news articles about her. Well those people are wasting their time writing comments about the reporters wasting time writing articles. People like to talk about things they hate just about as much, if not more, than they like to talk about things they like. It's called human nature and that's what I think of it.
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
22 Jul 07
Oh, did that sound like I was trying to defend my post? Don't worry, as you said earlier, "you" meant everyone in general, so I didn't take any offense to it, I was just merely expanding on it and just trying to express my ideas on everything you said, as I said I also agree with the fact that it's true that people like talking about the bad, and they'll never stop, I just wanted to know how many people do it, and if the majority feels that it's constructive or not. Till now, I haven't seen one good reason for these types of communities or clubs.
@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
22 Jul 07
But don't you think it's more productive and healthier to talk about something you love other than something you hate. Common ground would be much better if it's related to positive interests. And this topic is not of hatred of hate clubs, but more of a wonderment and curiosity of what majority of people think about them, so I don't think it's a hate topic at all. It's just a topic of conversation, where we can all freely exchange our ideas on this subject. I do agree with you that people love talking about things they hate, most people. I would rather prefer to talk about things I love, and I think you'll probably see that in all my discussions.
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@raychill (6525)
• United States
22 Jul 07
Well, Yes. I said I agreed. I also said "you" being a generalized term, Not meaning that I was talking about you or this post because I didn't want you to think you had to defend your post as I wasn't picking on the post. I was just expressing my opinion on it as you asked. I agree that I myself wouldn't join a hate club to use my energy talking about things I hate. I actually try my best to avoid lingering on things I don't like. However, as I said, I think it really is just a part of human nature. Some people just like to spend their time and energy focusing on things like that and negative things. you know, in some ways, It's kind of like people who picket! You know, You don't agree with it so you get a bunch of people together and you go to city hall or whatever and you stand there and you picket and you chant and you guys talk about how it's wrong and you don't agree and this and that. Granted, this has more depth to it than just hating some celebrity or something, but it's kind of the same thing. So, though I agree that it's not right, I just think it's human nature and accept that people are always going to do it.
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@Dumpertaker (1187)
23 Jul 07
People who make/join/contribute to these so-called "Hate" clubs do not know what hatred is all about to be honest. I feel they are immature, kinda akin to someone saying they hate thier brother or sister when they were little kids. I could understand if they said they did not appeal...but hate? I don't think so.
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
23 Jul 07
yeah, hate is a really strong word, and a really strong emotion too. I don't think I've really felt intense hate ever for someone, at least not yet.
@aissha (2036)
• India
23 Jul 07
u are right vega and i'm also member of such a club ,thts i hate ekta kapoor on orkut,though i don't hate her ,but i don't watch her ,to me her serials are funny instead of drammatic .i didn't became member on my own it was to support one friend as she hates her ma-in-law who is fond of k-serials ,so see its along chain love ,hate and love and hate ,hehehehehe
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
23 Jul 07
Well, I dislike most soap operas too, but I wouldn't wanna waste my time, being an active member of any such hate club, because to tell you the truth, it wouldn't make a difference because there are lots of people out there, who will love these soap operas, and they are in more majority than the haters. I guess in your case, it's different, because you just joined for a friend, and you're not the one doing the hating.
@Sushicook (690)
• Sweden
22 Jul 07
I agree with you! I've seen hate-clubs and webpages for many years now, often dedicated to fictional characters. The fun thing with these pages is that they sometimes fabricate the truth so that the character targeted will look a lot worse than he or she is. It's pathetic really. I can't understand why someone would waste so much time and energy just to tell the world that they dislike someone.
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
22 Jul 07
Yeah, I didn't understand it either, that's why I decided to start this topic, to see if I could be swayed by the answers, but as I see no one sees the point in all the hating.
• United States
22 Jul 07
Hate is a venom in your mind. To hate is to expend energy that is better spent in loving, or living life.
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
22 Jul 07
Yeah, and to have a hate club, I guess, would be like a shelter for that hate to grow.
@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
22 Jul 07
Yeah, and I guess, a hate club would be like a shelter for that hate to grow and that's not good.
@kgwat70 (13387)
• United States
22 Jul 07
You definitely have a very good point. It does not make any sense in wasting time and effort talking about someone or something that we do not like it. If we do not like the person, why waste our breath talking about them. Talking about things or people that we like seems more worthwhile. This is a very good topic.
@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
22 Jul 07
Thanks for that. Yeah, it's such a waste of time and energy to hate, and the point is that it doesn't make a difference to the one who is hated, but can be really negative for the one doing the hating. After all, no happiness can come out of hating, right?
• United States
22 Jul 07
If people cannot have something to love, then they have to have something to hate. Pretty sad, but that is how people are. I do not like Britney Spears very much, but I would not start an "I Hate Britney Spears" club for it. I would start a club for something that I love. I love comics books. I would start an "I Love Comic Books" club if I had the time and the money to do it with.
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
22 Jul 07
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying if you had time and money, why would you spend it for something you hate, why not for something you love? That makes more sense.
@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
21 Jul 07
I can't imagine joining or starting one of those communities. There are many celebrities that annoy me on some level or other, but when I see something about them, I just ignore it generally. Like you, I don't really think it's worth my time. I'd far rather focus on things and people that I care about than the ones that annoy me. I say "annoy" rather than "hate" because I can't imagine using a word that strong about someone I don't even know unless they had committed some seriously heinous crime. Even within my own life, there are very few people I would honestly say that I hate, and they are people who have done seriously harm to myself or those I care about. So even tossing around the "hate" word is too much for me, let alone joining or starting a club based on hate.
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
22 Jul 07
yeah, "hate" is a strong word and a strong emotion as well, and a destructive one at that. I try to stay away from it myself.
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@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
21 Jul 07
I hate these hate discussions LOL kidding!!! Waste the time if you ask me, I have much better things to do than hate on someone or something. Mind you being mylot, it is a place to let it all out I suppose but with those discussions I just skip on by! I would rather share how much I am in love with my husband and how much my son makes we feel each day :)
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
22 Jul 07
Yeah, that's sweet, I guess talking about good things does also make us feel better and vice versa.
@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
22 Jul 07
First of all, how can you truly hate someone that you do not even know. Starting a club about hating a celebrity is not going to change what their real fans feel for them and this is all that these people are concerned about. Their real fans are the ones that buy their CD's and come out and support their concerts and things like that. So, I feel that people who start clubs like this, not only have nothing better to do with their time, but are showing how childish and immature they really are. I know that my time is much too precious to waste on silly things.
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
22 Jul 07
Yeah, hate is silly. Why waste time and energy over it, especially on celebrities who we don't even know.
• United States
21 Jul 07
Hi, Vega, I do agree that haters clearly have 'issues'. I personally wouldn't bother with a hate club. But there are attitudes and types of people that I hate, and I guess I occasionally confront those types of people when I should maybe just let them be. There is something cathartic about venting your feelings and not bottling them up. But hating celebrities seems quite silly - they're all quite harmless and one never really knows them, right? I guess for some people, though, any kind of community is a comfort, even if it's formed from a common hatred. Well, I'm rambling. I seem to have no coherent response to this thread.
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
22 Jul 07
Yeah, plus most people don't even really know these celebrities just the image of them portrayed by the media, so there's really no justifying that hatred. Well your response was coherent enough for me to understand what you mean.
@DanaMark (807)
• United States
22 Jul 07
I'm not a member of any hate club or community. I agree with you. Why would someone waste their time doing that? There are so many good issues to think about and discuss. When I have seen people gather around a common dislike of something or someone, they just seem to feed off of each other and add fuel to the fire. I've not seen any good come of that. If they would spend the same energy thinking about some good things, the world would be a better place to live.
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
22 Jul 07
Yeah, some people might say that hate clubs can be therapeutic and a way to vent, but I think that they're just shelters for the hate to grow. Nothing good comes out of it, I agree.
• Canada
21 Jul 07
It really is a waste of time and I personally wouldn't do it, but I suppose I could see why other will. They are hoping that by joining a group and sharing their thoughts, they will be able to get others to feel the same way and also hate the same person. This isn't effective because everyone in the group already hates said person. Perhaps it is also an outlet that allows these people to vent their feelings. There are probably some other reasons for why people do such said things and many other reasons psychologists still haven't discovered...
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
22 Jul 07
Well I guess outlets or taking out anger, would be much better if you could vent by playing video games or exercising, talking about hate and the hated person over and over would just spread it more, don't you think?
• Canada
21 Jul 07
All of these "I hate" clubs that are springing up everywhere were created by people with too much time on their hands, no imagination and nothing better to do. If something bothers me I let it out productively, rather than starting a hate club for it.
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
22 Jul 07
How do you let it out productively? Well, I generally don't "hate" anything. I think hate is a destructive emotion, for the person doing the hating, of course, so I prefer not to feel it.
@sunshinecup (7871)
21 Jul 07
Why I would not spend my time creating a space to complain about someone I hate, I kind of understand those that do. It could be very therapeutic for them. To find other's that share their feelings, to vent it out and to maybe feel like if they scream loud enough the person they really can't stand will hear them. Me personally, I think what I want and I go on, have too much to do than to waste my time on someone I can't stand.
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
22 Jul 07
Yeah, I guess it would be sort of therapeutic for them, although I would think that substituting talking about something you hate with something you love would be more therapeutic.
@sigma77 (5383)
• United States
21 Jul 07
You are so right. Why waste time hating anything or anyone? We all have likes and dislikes, but why go out of our way to accent the things we hate? I think people are too lazy or confused to like themselves and do things that would be beneficial for themselves. So the easy way to get out of self responsibilty is to hate something. When we spend time hating something, we use our energy up and it is much wasier than actually working toward positive results. People are nuts. Then again I might be president of the I hate Paris fan club...lol. Not likely, because I love her. Well I am stretching that a bit...lol.
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@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
22 Jul 07
Yeah, why waste all that energy in such a negative emotion when we could be doing the things we love?
@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
21 Jul 07
Hello vega. Some people actually posted the "I hate this and that" for the simple reason that they are using the forum as a way to vent out their feelings and thoughts. I had come across a discussion about a forum owned by a mylotter who used it to insult some members here. I don't have the time to dwell on things like that. There are too many dramas in my life already and joining forum is a way for me to relax and interact as well.
@vega83 (6340)
• Bahrain
22 Jul 07
Yeah, I would think that joining a forum would be an excellent opportunity to talk about our common interests, I guess for some people "hate" would count as in interest then.