What does Omnipotence REALLY mean?

in fact, i presume that the power is never used at all! why? because god is perfect and to use power means to change. a perfect being does not change. the only reason we change is because of lack of perfection. to say that god uses his power to create in the first place is to say that god is imperfect in the first place... UNLESS..the only logical observation is that god has not always been perfect, and he needed things to get to the top of power, but if this is true, god isnt really god then.. but a being who rose to power, which means we can do it too, which means Buddhism is the only right religion.

Yes, it does...but being all powerful doesn't mean that the power is always exercised. Being all powerful it is not inconceivable that within that power it can be freely given to others so they also may be empowered through the right of free will to work as co-creators with Creator.

I hate thinking that it is out of reach, and beyond comprehension.. try explaining calculus to the cavemen from 75,000 years ago.. i really dont think that there are limits.. to anything, as we are pushing them every day. one of the reasons why i am an existentialist.

lol.. trust me.. if you arent ignorant to facts..this will be over very fast.. and how do you only have a score of 7 with all the flattery?.. my score is 7 and im attacking religion all the time lol.. ANYWAYS this is the simplest way i can tell you about it.. RULE: for something to be created, there must be a creator. 1)God knows ALL 2)God has always been. 3)God created Humans 4)Humans created Will 5)Will was known by GOD before Humans was existent. 6)according to the rule, for something to be created, the creator must exist... 7) since god was always omnipotent, and always all knowing, human will has always been existent, through the knowledge of god. humans have a beginning, however. know what i mean? if you still dont agree.. check out this discussion, where the believer gives up her logical base: http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1198947.aspx in number #6, the answer is in the longest post i have.

but you did not address my point. its not a matter of whether god lets it happen or not. the point was:if he knows my will before i existed, i am not the creator of my will because to create means to be existent.

Firstly the trivial things:-) What do you think why I have 7 score with all my flattery? and please help me find the flattery first!:-) Now to the question: I see where your confusion is about. Free will is not created by humans. It is granted by the GOD HIMSELF. HE grants us the power to choose out way. This free will, however, isn't that free by the way. This free will is only limited to the "way" we choose to do things. we can't do just about anything we wish to do but the way to do it. I hope it's a little clearer from my perspective:-)

lol.. anyways, um, string theory will not be proven for a LONG time..its more of a theory without facts and no observations, its more of an IDEA than a theory really. that is why i only accept 10 dimentions at this time, unless someone comes through with a break through, in which i will do my research and challenge myself to understand the new theory, and make comparisons there. therfore, coming up with a good conclusion.. anyways.. your analogy is basically wrong, if you look at the above response i gave to kamran, you would know why. thanks

the one i gave aprox. 12 mins ago

its funny, because, i used to be a believer, and im just talking normally and it seems that you are getting angry with the truth. you are saying the bible does not say that god is all knowing and all loving? to be all knowing, is to can do all, which is, omnipotence. now, you contradict your own bible saying that god is not omnipotent, which means, he is not all knowing.. that is fine. but, if god is not omnipotent, what is the point of worship? he would be nothing more than a parent.

i know what your trying to say... god cannot create contradictions, god is limited.. ofcourse i know that. omnipotence does not mean "create contradictions". also, the god of the bible is completely illogical, for he is "surprised" that adam and eve ate the apple.. but he is all knowing haha.. but the question of the rock has very little to do with free will, because, in the rock question both answers lead to "no omnipotence" however, in the freewill question, one answer leads to omnipotence, and that is, no free will.

you also just proved my point, your definition of omnipotent is distorted. that meaning is NOT true. since god cannot fail, lie, or sin he is not what you say he is. god IS all knowing. he is omnipotent in a snese but not in the distorted way you are explaining. being as he is all knowing dont you think anything is possible with him if he sees it that way? Where in the bible does it say God is "omnipotent"? and no i am not angry, just tired of the same exact conversations all the time, and i know i do not have to reply to them, but my gosh, pick a different topic! www.godandscience.org look at this website, it better explains what i am trying to say. The wonderful famous athiest question. Can God create a rock he cannot lift? He is all-powerful, Why would he create such a thing? To prove what? What I am trying to say, and I did word it wrong, due to lack of sleep lol, Omnipotence does Not mean God can do all things. There are things God cannot do, which I have stated above. God cannot violate his nature, therefore creating a rock he cannot lift is an illogical argument. God could have created a world in which all would be saved or all would be damned. Instead, he created a world where some would be saved and some not. Free will. If there was no free will, then why did his son die on the cross for our sins? God is the almighty power, yet, his power IS limited. Therefore, he loved us so much he sent his son to die for our sins. If we could not sin, we would have no free will. He could have sent his angels to rescue jesus but he did not. I guess it all depends on your definition of omnipotence. Is God all=knowing? Yes. Does God have certain limitations? Yes. If God is all-powerful then he can CREATE HIS OWN SET OF RULES, and he did. His inability to lie, die, sin, act against his nature(create a square circle) shows he has limits. God is omnipotent in a way, but not in the way you are describing. How could there be free will if he is all-knowing? Well, it is totally possible he knows what we are going to do before we do it, but it is also totally possible that he does not intervene in the decision., I guess kinda like "Psychics" They claim they can tell you your future, yet they have no control over it. They just "know" what is going to happen, and you spend 5 bucks a minute to find this out lol.

its not an assumption at all, its a logical base. if god is omnipotent, he knows all. he knows what i will create (will) before i am existent. therefore, he is the creator of my creations (will is the creation). if you would like to look on this further, look at the debate i am having above and you can join in if you like.

no, its just, you need to like read some stuff.. i dont want to explain it but i feel like i must, because, every time someone asks this question, as long with many other questions, its so crazy that i feel the need to teach it to myself.. but i hate typing.. lol, more of a writer.. even though nobody can read my terrible hand writing lol.. i like to call it "artistic". to be omnipotent, you are also omniscient, all knowing etc etc.. you cant be one without the other. oh wait, you can be omniscient without the other, but you know.. if god is omnipotent, he is all knowing. but wtvr, thats besides the point.. before i start to get deeper i need to ask this question: do you know that a perfect being cannot want or need?

nonetheless, what is your view on it?