Muslims want single Islamic state

i agree however unfortunatly most folks choose to hide thier heads in the sand and with this they will do nothing untill it is too late it scares the he** out of me to think that people who claim to love freedom will do nothing untill they become enslaved!

Sad, isn't it? What is sadder is that they, for the most part, haven't even been educated on their religion or sharia law, which would erode all their rights. I worked with a girl whose father was the local religious leader, and she didn't know half as much as I do about her religion. many muslims are spoonfed only parts of the quran, the parts that make it seem like a good religion to follow, and actually told not to read other parts. many Muslims that support that kind of state have only a grade school education, at most, and only know what they are told. And if a calipfate is is allowed, they will get even less education than they are allowed now.

Personally, I think we have enough problems of our own to worry about without having to go looking for others, bk. But, what does anyone care about what I think?

give them the caliphate to congregate in, so you know where to find them when you need to.

What is all This hurly-burly About ?? Don't You know That Israel is A COUNTRY FOR JEWS ? Jews also attended a meeting calling for the establishment Of Israel " The Country For Jews "

Anyone ever thought of just letting Muslims be? History shows that every attempt of an outside force to conquer, influence, or change them has been futile (Crusades, Moro-Spanish Wars, War on Terror). If there are Muslims who want equal rights and better living conditions, let them initiate that fight themselves. Every time an outsider tries to proffer a solution to their social ills, it is construed as an attack on their faith. Better let the call for a revolution come from within.

Woe.. talk about your hand standing on end... - Now it would be so great if it was say, under Sufi Islam. That's gotta be the real thing.. beautiful music and singing.. free spirited.. tolerant.. happy.. peaceful!

why they want so ....i don't understand ..........why they donot understand that human beings are brothers .......why they want to seprate us from a religion

What has the Indonesian govt done? Anything concrete or precious little? If it’s the former, then maybe there is hope, but if it’s the latter, then like all politically correct govt responses, they wash their hands off matters which are likely to affect them badly in the elections. This is the misfortune of our generation. We are so much into human rights, media rights, political rights, freedom of expression etc etc., that most of the time the right to life and liberty is lost. It is then that such retrogressive thoughts and ideas germinate and people become courageous enough of doing almost anything in order to establish their supremacy over others. Islamic aggression is nothing new, nor are all muslims to be branded fundamentalist, hell-bent of establishing the shariat. Years of hood-winking by powerful nations for their own greater interests (oil being a major reason) have infused blood into nascent islamic movements which today have taken alarming proportions throughout the world. Its now when such double-standards have boomeranged, do nations sit up and take notice and brand such movements as terrorism. But its too little and too late. Muslims by nature are both regressive and aggressive. In a sense this is true, as history will prove that muslims were once the most advanced form of civilization in medieval times. They were leaders in warfare, art, culture, architecture, cuisine, trade, education and what not. Somehow after that, they lost their way and drowned themselves in complacency. They forgot to evolve. Their realization now, that they have somehow missed the bus and tremendous frustration arising out of it, has somehow given rise to a perverted anger within the community and they believe that it would be possible to re-establish the Caliphate, which was the golden era of Islamic history. From the beginning of modern history itself they should have been dealt with correctly …respectfully and cautiously.

Oh! I'm not aware of Hizb u Tahir group, and I don't know their nature. Continuing Indonesia as a Secular democratic nation is still fine. 86% of Indonesia are Muslims and I don't find wrong if they establish an Islamic govt though, but it should not be like Saudi Arabia, it should be based on the actual Islamic values and treat other religious followers with respect and do not impose personal Islamic rulings towards public, only social rules can be implemented as public. In fact Islam do not tamper woman's rights, Islam gave life to woman when Mohammad came the people were burying the new born girl babies alive! and girls were shame for them, Prophet Mohammad changed those attitude and gave similar rights as man. If the govt is going to be in the hand of terrorists of extremists it is indeed a problem, if so it is better to continue the secular democracy. And there is no problem to Muslims to live in a secular country.

hello there you dont have to worry there if u see in iraq the muslims are struggling to form a coalation government. the suadies and irianians dont seem to look eyes into eyes the meeting is all talk and no work