Children Should Be Seen, And Not Heard.

Canada
August 20, 2007 1:46am CST
Several days ago, the little girl I babysit was sitting with me at the computer, playing games. The volume was turned up, when I received a phone call. My friend who was calling, made the statement that, everytime she phones, and this little girl is at my home, she's always being noisy while we're talking. Actually, it wasn't this little girl talking at all, but the sound was from the computer games, which I told my friend. This brought to my mind, the old saying that I've stated above. I used to hear this often as a child, especially from my mom, and my aunts, and I'd 'obey.' What do you think of this statement? Was this said to you as a child? Do you think it has a place in today's world?
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13 responses
@ranitam22 (1146)
• United States
20 Aug 07
Yes it was said to me alot as a child and when i was younger and would go places with my mother. the children were mostly outside or in another room while the adults were talking. I think it was better that way because children didn't have to grow up so fast by learning about adult stuff at an earlier age than they should which is what i think happens a lot today. I've seen some parents say things around kids that a child would never hear but i can never say anything because it is their child, not mine. I guess it all boils down to how you want to raise your child and what level of conversation you want your child to hear. It's the parents decision i guess.
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• Canada
7 Sep 07
That's the way it was for me too, as we children mostly ate at a separate table, when we visited someone, and were often in a different room. Back then, the adults didn't really talk about things that we kids shouldn't hear, so I don't think this was the reason. I agree that parents, and other adults, should be careful what they say around children. Thanks for your response.
• United States
20 Aug 07
I was told this all the time growing up. My brothers and I weren't even allowed around adults period. It should be today that parents shouldn't push their children to the side. They should just explain to them sometimes adults say things they shouldn't hear. My children are usually involved with our family who come around. Actually the family would rather interact with my children more than I. Children have their place in life just like anyone else. I just usually tell mine if something is being discuss for them not to hear, they can come back around us after we talk first. This usually works out. While my husband and I are on the phone, they are to be quiet or either we walk outside. We try to involve our kids in our lives and others to make them feel special, loved, and wanted always.
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• Canada
7 Sep 07
That's sad that you and your brothers couldn't even be with adults. This is a good way you have, of handling things with your kids today. I can tell that you're a good mom, who always makes her kids feel special, as of course, they are. Thanks for sharing.
• Canada
7 Sep 07
I hope that you 'at least' got to say hello, to your great grandparents crazed_moma.
• United States
21 Aug 07
I remember that being the rule when we went to my great grandparents. We were expected to go play and let the adults chat and catch up.
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• United States
20 Aug 07
I heard that saying when I was a kid. I've never believed in it. I do believe that kids should learn respect (and not interrupt) over time, like when we're on the phone etc. But this is not the case here. How do we teach the children something good from telling them they should be seen and not heard? I have a friend who has made comments to my little boy about how we don't get to see each other much, and he should let us have our time. He's 4 years old for crying out loud! It's not his fault that she's a hermit and doesn't want to be around all the time. Sorry. I didn't mean to vent in your discussion, but it does get to me when adults think kids have no rights.
• Canada
7 Sep 07
Feel free to vent in one of my discussions anytime, TheCatzMeow1. I totally agree with you, as kids need to be treated with respect too, and most of all love. Another thing we kids were taught (sometimes), when I was growing up was, "Children should only speak when spoken to." I think this is horrible. Sorry its taken me so long to respond here, but I was away, and then things just piled up. Thanks for sharing.
• United States
20 Aug 07
I believe in today world children need to be heard but on that same note they also need to learn not to be so noisy when you are on the phone and when a child is trying to talk to you----you should listen to them and not put them off because some is important to them to talk about than an adult should listen
• Canada
7 Sep 07
You're right, children 'do' need to be heard. They have important things to say, just as much as we adults do. Thanks for your response.
• United States
20 Aug 07
My mother, who was born in '48, was raised this way and so, being a single mother to a single child, raised me in the same manner. The rule was never actually spoken but I knew that I was to sit quietly when visiting relatives' homes or, if someone came to our house to visit, I was to go to my room and play quietly. Another rule that I followed was to speak only when spoken to. This wasn't hard for me to do since I was a shy kid and didn't have any children to really interact with other than school. I certainly don't follow those rules now and haven't raised my three children in this manner either. I'm sure in some homes, parents still expect these rules to be adhered to, especially those homes where nannies are raising the children.
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• Canada
7 Sep 07
I'm sorry that you were raised this way, as I was, kakemafarm. This type of 'message' being sent to children, can do quite a bit of damage, in some cases. We also heard 'the speak only when spoken to' rule at times too. My daughter has definitely 'not' been raised in this manner, and she's 16 now. It's very sad to me, when this 'still' goes on today, and depending on the nanny, I'd hope they'd bond with the kids, and allow them to express themselves. Thanks for your response.
@Laurla98 (786)
• United States
20 Aug 07
I was only told to be quiet if I was being too loud. My parents had 7 kids, it would have never worked in our house anyways. I was talkative as a child, so I mostly heard, "Do you have an off button?" from my parents. I actually say it to my kids too..but its all in good fun. If someone actually seriously said that to my children, they would get an earful. I think that kids need to learn to be quiet when they are in certain environments as they get older, ie. school, church But that doesn't mean they should have to sit like perfect little dolls all the time.
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• Canada
7 Sep 07
Wow, seven kids. I think that'd be a fun home to grow up in. I agree with you, that no kids can sit and behave perfectly all of the time. There'd be something wrong if they did. Thanks for your response.
@weemam (13372)
20 Aug 07
My Granny always said that , I have always been a chatterbox though , I think there is a place for kids to be quiet but we don't want them not to be able to say how they feel , we alays chatter in our house and if one of my grankids want to say something they do , if we are chatting about something and they shouldn't be interrupting we just say " wait a wee minute sweetheart and they do , I think it is all about manners and them being taught them , I don't think it is fair on any child to keep telling them to be quiet , that way they could grow up to be very shy and introvert , xx
• Canada
7 Sep 07
Hi weemam, That's the way I feel too, as kids need to be able to express feelings etc., as long as it's done in a mannerly way. This is one of the reasons (I believe), that I was so painfully shy, and introverted when I was a child. Thanks for sharing, as always.:)
• United States
20 Aug 07
Ohh myy!! i heard that a while ago and i about blew Sky high..its ignorant and wrong in my opinion..i know back in the days the children sttod at the table waiting to eat while the father ate..then the mother i believe than the kids..it was just taunting if u ask me and rude..they didnt ask to be brought in this world..we did..they should be the ones treated like princes and princesses..and on a pedastol..they are precious..and if u really listen they have alot to say that make u think..i thinbk people that say that,.,im sorry dont want to offend u or your family at all..so plzz dont take it this way..but people that say that..never should have had kids..thats just mistreatment..and it makes me sad it still goes on..
• Canada
7 Sep 07
I agree with you cloud_kicker_32, that this is inappropriate to say to children, unless they're behaving very badly. We heard this all of the time, and we were well behaved, because we were taught to have respect etc. I'm not familiar with the 'eating custom' that you've mentioned, but it doesn't sound right to me. You're not offending me, or my family, as this was many years ago, and I've always strongly disagreed with this. Thanks for your response.
@webeishere (36313)
• United States
20 Aug 07
Children need to be heard in my mind. How else will they learn anything I feel.
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• Canada
7 Sep 07
Hi Grandpa Bob, I'm sorry it's taken me so long to get back to this discussion, but I was away, etc. etc. I know, excuses, excuses (haha). I agree that this 'should not' be said to children, and I hate this saying. I heard it way too much growing up. Thanks, and have a great day.
@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
20 Aug 07
well i guess back then the kids were better behaved then they are now? but we raise our kids to speak for themselves...rather than getting stepped on at school, to stand up for their rights...is that a bad thing???
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• Canada
7 Sep 07
Kids were mostly better behaved back then, but often for the wrong reasons, as this 'saying' indicates. My 16 year old daughter's been raised to speak for herself, and will not allow others to walk all over her. I, like you, view this as a positive thing. Thanks for sharing.
@archer1811 (1098)
• Philippines
21 Aug 07
In todays generation maybe almost all children have their own way to get the attention of other people around them or even in the phone, my son also keep on talking or making his way just to catch my attention whenever i have a phone call. Sometimes i get irritated but almost all the time i understand him coz its only me or his father are the people that sourrounds him and can talk to him always. He dont have the brother or sister to play with when i am busy.
• Canada
7 Sep 07
Kids like to feel that they're important, which of course, they are, but I agree that it's annoying at times, when they keep talking during 'our' phone calls. My daughter is an 'only child' too, as she has 3 much older brothers, who've been out of the house, since she was little. Thanks for your response.
@sandwedge (1339)
• Malaysia
21 Aug 07
"children should be seen and not heard." i keep hearing this too. how i was brought up, my parents always tell us to go to our room when we have visitors. "adults need to talk" was always the reason. at each meal we were old to "listen. don't talk." i think it turn our very well. children if given these discipline will know their place in society when they grow up. they'll learn to listen when other s talk. they know when to talk and when to listen. ever seen those naughty kids that keeps interrupting their parents when their parents are trying to talk? i say thats the opposite end of this discipline. but then again, its parenting, and with billions of people in this world, there are sure to be another billions of technique to get the same desired result. just my 2 cents.
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• Canada
7 Sep 07
We were told to come and say 'hello' to our visitors, and then leave the adults alone. This contributed greatly to my painful shyness, when I was growing up. It's important to teach kids manners, such as not interrupting, being rude, noisy, etc., but I was already brought up this way, and just needed the chance to be heard. I understand what you're saying though, about kids nowadays, who take things to the other extreme. Thanks for sharing 'your 2 cents' here. Have a great day.
• United States
21 Aug 07
I heard it quite a bit. Usually from these really old ladies, who had no tolerance for children. What is the point of seeing a child and not hearing them? To me a child's talking, imagination, and laughter are what bring joy to this world. If you've ever listened to a four year old tell you a story about her imaginary friend, you will know exactly what I mean. No, if you want to just look at a child and not hear them, I say you might as well just go buy a doll. Cause that's what you have. Now don't get me wrong, there are always those times where you wish they had a mute button.
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• Canada
7 Sep 07
'Some' people who have never had the joy of having children, don't understand them at all. I've listened to several 4 year olds tell me many stories, including my daughter, niece, nephew, and the little girl I babysit. There's no point to seeing and not hearing a child, in this regard. I know what you mean about the 'mute button' though. Thanks for sharing.
• Canada
7 Sep 07
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