Retirement

@Pose123 (21660)
Canada
August 24, 2007 11:11am CST
Do you think people should have to retire at a certain age, or be allowed to work as long as they are able? If people are forced to retire early, is this age discrimination?
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@tsitra100 (171)
• Barbados
25 Aug 07
I thing people should retire when they know the thim is right for them. However, it is very unfortunate that some people don't know when that time is.
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@Pose123 (21660)
• Canada
25 Aug 07
You make a good point. Thank you.
@tuffy999 (794)
• Philippines
25 Aug 07
one should be given the chance to choose when to retire and how long to stay in the job as long as one is performing his/her duties in which they are hired. but in certain fields (military, health services) there should be age limit, these are fields that need a lot of physical involvement, the seniors can be the consultants and the day to day operation should be given to the juniors. that way there's balance.
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@Pose123 (21660)
• Canada
25 Aug 07
Hi tuffy999, Your comment makes a lot of sense to me. Thank you.
@theprogamer (10539)
• United States
24 Aug 07
They should be allowed to work as long as they want. If they are forcibly retired with no real glaring problems then I think its age discrimination. However, rationally speaking there should be some medical/mental checks for people in certain professions. Health isn't perfect and it only gets worse as one gets older. If someone is unfit for their duties they may have to be put to pasture: If the worker creates a situation that endangers him/herself, co-workers and/or others then they have to be removed (examples: pilot, truck driver, safety technicians, power technicians, heavy industry). I don't say it to discriminate since this can apply to any age group, I'm just saying this because its a valid and sound premise.
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@Pose123 (21660)
• Canada
25 Aug 07
Thank you for a very good response.
@alamode (3071)
• United States
27 Aug 07
First of all, ALL of life is full of age discrimination--- when you can drive, have your first 'legal' drink, etc. Of course its there at retirement age... just because somebody somewhere put a number on when you can collect your Social Security. My husband did all the paperwork for his retirement last week... he will be just 62 in October. We have had our own business for the last 7 yrs, but before that he severely injured his back working for someone else. He is classified as disabled, but has done well to keep us going for this long. In order to maintain his disabled status, he was advised by Social Security to not wait too long to put in his paperwork. He will still be able to maintain his business after retirement, and work at a leisurely pace that will make life more pleasant for him. His NOT working would drive us both over the edge!!LOL!! I believe that 'able' is sort of a tricky word here--- YOU may believe that you are able, but your employer may have other ideas as to what the job will involve in the future. I know that I have a harder time adapting as each year passes... things change so quickly! We have been on both sides of this question, and neither side had easy answers. Retirement is supposed to be the reward for working so hard all those years, but unless you come out with lots of money AND things to do, it can become just a void. If a person has a hobby or interest that can be translated into a small business, that is a great way to pass the time. The worse thing to do is to sit and become bitter. There is still life after retirement!
@Pose123 (21660)
• Canada
27 Aug 07
Hi alamode, You make some very good points, Thanks for adding to this discussion.
@thefortunes (2367)
• Netherlands
25 Aug 07
Hi Pose 123 i think that people should be able to decide themselves when to retire. And yes, according to me it is age discrimination when forced to retire early, as they pay for younger workers much less, don't you think?
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@Pose123 (21660)
• Canada
25 Aug 07
Hi thefortunes, thanks for responding. I'm with you.
@nickventere (1424)
• Zambia
25 Aug 07
I think people should be allowed to work for as long as they can. Perhaps, some civil service jobs could be defined and marked as exception.
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@Pose123 (21660)
• Canada
25 Aug 07
Hi nickventere, Thanks for commenting. I'm wondering why you think some civil service jobs should be an exception?
@Ricko82 (585)
• Philippines
25 Aug 07
I remember well where have I been ask this question first. It was during my speaking exam when I took the IELTS test just over a year ago. I can still remember very my answer then. I said that it should not be the person's age that should determine if he still fits to work or not but rather his ability to perform his job, whatever it is. There are a lot of aged individuals that are still very able to do their job efficiently more than young people can. So as long as the man can still perform well, there should be no reason why he be forced to retire, I feel like retirement should be voluntary and should be determine by the person working.
@Pose123 (21660)
• Canada
25 Aug 07
Thank you for responding Ricko82. I agree with your comments.
@lisa_wxy (393)
• China
25 Aug 07
in my opinion,it is rational to allow people work as long as they are able.of course,if he want to retire,it is ok. people differs,they have different family conditons and different values.part of people are willing to work as long as they can,they take work as a part of life,some of them want to work just becuase economic reasons.but others,they want to retire to enjoy the rest of their life.
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@Pose123 (21660)
• Canada
25 Aug 07
Hi lisa_wxy, your comment makes good sense to me. Thank you.
@kennedee (156)
• Philippines
25 Aug 07
I disagree that people should retire at a certain age. As long as he/she can do the job and as long as it's not affecting his/her health. Through this we're giving them more chance to live and be productive.
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@Pose123 (21660)
• Canada
25 Aug 07
Thank you kennedee, I agree.
• United States
25 Aug 07
I believe that as long as a person is able to pull their own they should be allowed to work if they desire to. What right does a person have to look at someone and say you are to old to work so we are making it mandatory to retire at a certain age. That is definitely age discrimination and it is a wrong thing to do to force this on people. Some of your most productive people are the ones that are older.
@Pose123 (21660)
• Canada
25 Aug 07
Hi sunshinelady, I like you response. Thank you.
@cmsk2005 (1770)
• United States
24 Aug 07
I think that they should be allowed to the the time they are able to do the job properly, keep mentain the level of work high and is able perform competitive work. In this competitive world nobody will want to be defeated so if somebody becomes old and not able to perform a competitive work then he/she won't be wanted by his/her company as they want to proceed. So as long as anybody can show this real ability, they should continue workig. After all they have more experience than the newer which worth to keep
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@Pose123 (21660)
• Canada
25 Aug 07
Good comment. Thank you.
@carmelanirel (20976)
• United States
24 Aug 07
I think as long as they do their job, they should retire whenever they want to without someone trying to kick them out. My husband can retire now, but to get his full retirement plan, he still has a year and a half and the place he works is not making it easy for him. They would rather bring in someone new who they don't have to pay as much..
@Pose123 (21660)
• Canada
25 Aug 07
Hi carmelanirel, I'm in agreement with you on this one. Thanks for commenting.
@faith210 (11232)
• Philippines
24 Aug 07
Hi Pose123! I think that retirement should just be an option for the people themselves to decide. If you are in the retirable age and you are still fit to work, then you should be allowed to do so. Most of the companies here in our country discriminate people who are more than 30 years old, they wouldn't be hired at all even though they are qualified. I recently applied for a job and I was 41 years old. I was interviewed and was told that I am over qualified for the job. An insider told me that it was because of my age. I felt so frustrated that it seems to me my career life is over at the age of 41, unless I would just start my own business which is very difficult nowadays. I just hope the public and private sector wouldn't be discriminating people like me who just wanted a second chance in her career life. Take care and have a nice day!
@Pose123 (21660)
• Canada
25 Aug 07
Hi faith210, It's hard to imagine being discriminated against at such a young age. How can companies get experienced workers? I wish you well. Thanks for commenting.
@joyce959 (1560)
• Philippines
24 Aug 07
In my opinion, there should be an age limit to work in a company. When someone is already old, lets say 60 or 65, his performance and output is not as good as when he's still younger. Old age also brings health problems. I guess age 60 or 65 is a proper age to retire from work in a company and enjoy his retirement benefits, relax and have fun. I don't think that this is age discrimination. For those in a family business, I guess its their own prerogative to work as as long as they want because its their business that is at stake.
@Pose123 (21660)
• Canada
25 Aug 07
Thank you for your comments.
@ranitam22 (1147)
• United States
24 Aug 07
I think they should as long as they are able to, it depends on the individual. Some people are in great shape in their older age, while some people aren't. It also depends on what type of job it is too.
@Pose123 (21660)
• Canada
25 Aug 07
I agree. Thank you.
@whywiki (6070)
• Canada
24 Aug 07
I think that people should be able to work as long as they can do the job. Some people are ready for the pasture at 65 and some people are just getting into the swing of things at that age. I do think it is discrimination and people shouldn't be forced into retirement.
@Pose123 (21660)
• Canada
25 Aug 07
Good response, Thank you.