The KJV is God's chosen bible

United States
September 25, 2007 1:43am CST
Has anyone else ever hear a fundy Christian say this? I see this typed in chatrooms and hear it in real life. What do you think when ignorant people claim this statement to be true? I think it is really funny, since there are at least one hundred different versions of the bible.
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15 responses
• Thailand
26 Sep 07
They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. The King James version of the Bible is about as divorced from the original texts as you can get. It was not translated from the original manuscripts, it was taken from the earlier Geneva Bible and several other copies all of them in English. When you start dealing with translations of translations it becomes impossible to really know what the original manuscript said. Here is a short history of how the Bible came to America. "The Anglican Church’s King James Bible took decades to overcome the more popular Protestant Church’s Geneva Bible. One of the greatest ironies of history, is that many Protestant Christian churches today embrace the King James Bible exclusively as the “only” legitimate English language translation… yet it is not even a Protestant translation! It was printed to compete with the Protestant Geneva Bible, by authorities who throughout most of history were hostile to Protestants… and killed them. While many Protestants are quick to assign the full blame of persecution to the Roman Catholic Church, it should be noted that even after England broke from Roman Catholicism in the 1500’s, the Church of England (The Anglican Church) continued to persecute Protestants throughout the 1600’s. One famous example of this is John Bunyan, who while in prison for the crime of preaching the Gospel, wrote one of Christian history’s greatest books, Pilgrim’s Progress. Throughout the 1600’s, as the Puritans and the Pilgrims fled the religious persecution of England to cross the Atlantic and start a new free nation in America, they took with them their precious Geneva Bible, and rejected the King’s Bible. America was founded upon the Geneva Bible, not the King James Bible." This was taken from; http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/ The site is a very interesting history of how the Bible we have today came to be. If you are interested I recommend and spending a little time with it.
@tigertang (1749)
• Singapore
29 Sep 07
If we want to put it this way, the only versions of the Bible that are acceptable are words spoken by Jesus in the original Aramaic and the letters of Paul in the original Ancient Greek. One can argue that translations are inevitably a dilution of the original word in the original language - hence the Muslim inisistance that the Koran can only be read in Arabic. Personally, I think this argument dillutes the greatness of God and shows the typical human obession with the words rather than the spirit. Whether you are talking about the Old Testament in Hebrew, the New Testament in Greek or even the Koran in Arabic - God should be above it all - language limits human thinking not the devine! Since most of us at Mylot grew up in an English Speaking environment, we tend to understand the Bible as being in English. - It's arrogant to think and understand the world like this but such is life. As such, one could argue that the King James Version of the Bible has the most poetic and devine language. But it is not the ONLY version of the word of God. Others argue that the New International Version has many schoolarly understandings that the KJIV does not. Whatever version you take-remember the Spirit should always trump the importance of the word!
• United States
26 Sep 07
Really? I never knew all of that stuff before, and I really enjoy learning about history because it is usually so different from out current time. It's like a whole different world isn't it? I'll be sure to go and check out the site that you posted and read it.
@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
30 Sep 07
Why Paul? I don't place much stock in Pauls teachings. Why do you equate him with Christ?
@urbandekay (18278)
6 Oct 07
It is tempting to imagine that if only the bible where written in Aramaic and that we spoke the same then we would have the authentic meaning undiluted or modified. Muslims make this claim about the Quran (though interestingly the Quran contains words unknown in the language in which it is written, clear indication that it borrows heavily from previous scripture, linguists concur) However, this is not so, the meaning of any and every language drifts over time being a function of usage; nice, for instance, originally meant polite, Anon meant immediately and no means later, Apparent meant not clear or certain but now means obvious. The meaning of words is determined by a community of language users thus even if we spoke Aramaic the meaning of the words will have subtly shifted. Furthermore, every text stands in need of interpretation, even by the author, I must interpret the words I write here. Thus we are left with an interesting situation that an early translation into English or another language may actually render a closer meaning to the original Aramaic or not. What is truly remarkable is that the spirit behind the words of Jesus shines through. Whilst the KJV is far from perfect it is poetic. all the best urban
@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
6 Oct 07
excellent response
@urbandekay (18278)
6 Oct 07
Thank you all the best urban
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• United States
25 Apr 08
Very astute response.
@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
4 Oct 07
I don't agree with it.. the King's Englishe is outdated, for one thing. Of course there will be more modern language translations.. Actually I'll put a link here of a humorous page which pokes a little fun at the 'king's english'! Imagine giving a Bible or New Testament to an unbeliever or new christian with all the thee's and thou's and goeths and doeths.. Though I do realize there is the "New King James"... I've read many translations and do not find them to be incorrigable like some others seem to.. They usually say they are "diligently compared" to the original languages.. NoT to King Jame's translation.. They truly all say the same thing.. including the one word translation error ("hell"/is the grave, as sheol always was), and another error of perception (inherent immortality/that oh so ancient "surely.. you won't.. die?")
• United States
4 Oct 07
oops, I forgot the link! http://www.godstruthfortoday.org/Library/priddy/ibi_4_2.htm
• United States
25 Apr 08
Jesus Christ is the true word of God. The Bible just happens to be the only book which tells you this. So it doesn't matter which version you use, because without the spirit of God to interpret it for you, it's all just words.
• United States
25 Apr 08
The Bible Gateway is a site for anyone who feels inclined to compare for themselves. http://www.biblegateway.com/
@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
30 Sep 07
I would rather see them read the KJV than any of the others. King James corrupted the KJV, but ignorance corrupted the others. King james made certain that things that agreed with him were put into the bible and the rest was destroyed or hidden. The other versions take from that and they misinterpret it. My biggest pet peeve is anything that says the word, Homosexual, in the bible. yeah, I have a gay thing, but the fact is that the term homosexual was not coined until the 1920's. Effeminant, which is in the bible should not be replaced by homosexual, for not all gay men are effeminant and not all effeminant men are gay. They also refuse to see that the relationship between david and Jonathan was not a platonic one. The two men were bound by the soul. The different version of scripture actually change the words to SAY, brothers and friends. So, to summerize, better KJV than the others, but they should do their homework. unless one reads aramic and hebrew and has access to the original scrolls, the bible in any translation needs to be taken with a grain of common sense.
@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
30 Sep 07
yes, and David adopted Jonathan's children, although, he should have had them executed since they were the heirs to the throne. he was an excellent stepfather. and the verse, "Thy love was special to me, surpassing that of a woman," is clear. They were married in the sense of marraige as a love bond. Which was not the norm of the day. In biblical times, marraige was based on anything but love.
• United States
30 Sep 07
Exactly cyntrow! I believe David and Jonathan were gay lovers and that their covenant to bound their souls as one in the field was some sort of marriage covenant. I mean, do you know any straight men who will speak that way to other straight men? All poetic and romantic-like. If any guy went up to a straight guy and spoke to him like that, they might get beat up. Plus, everything they promised each other is the very diffinition of a marriage. Plus, Saul called something about David being his son-in-law twice. That would mean once with Jonathan and once with Saul's daughter.
• United States
25 Sep 07
Although I am fuuly aware thaat the KJV is not the only version of the Holy Bible, of its true history, nor the Bible the only religious work, I do not find this statement or this view very surprising. It is a self-defense stance and point of view. Put simply, if I am ordering my life by the words written in a book which, true or not, I believe to be directly inspired by my God, would I not believe in the version I use? To show how this works, I present a pretend example. There are three books, Book 1 and Book 2 which are of my personal god and Book 3 which is of another diety. No matter which book I choose to live by, I must claim that it is the one, true, chosen version. Why? Because it would make little sense for me to say, 'I follow and believe in Book 1, but I know Book 2 is the real one.' now would it? As humans we seek what we think is best and we will defend our choice or change it. We are this way about most things, from our religion to our ball teams to the kind of car we drive. I do get frustrated with people who refuse to acknowledge the historical facts around what we know of as the Bible and some of its contents. but I understand that most of this stubbornness is fear generated.
• United States
26 Sep 07
Thanks you for your comment. I do see the point you were making and understand it.
• United States
4 Oct 07
..most people believe what they are first taught.. including the secular, which have no more proof of their theory than anyone else does of theirs.. perhaps less. http://www.inner-monastery.com/evolution.html ..much the same can be said of some new history theories..
@luzamper (1357)
• Philippines
20 Oct 07
Yes and there are religious groups which use only the authorized version of King James Version of the Holy Bible. It is translated by people commissioned by King James and they are not people of God like the Israelites. And there are mistakes which they openly admit and so how could it be when God is perfect? People should be open minded and get what is right and good from whatever.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
4 Oct 07
The King James Version and the New American Standard give a literal translation of God's Word, while the NIV gives a thought to thought translation. You can refer to this link http://www.comereason.org/theo_issues/theo025.asp for more research on the subject If you want to read an accurate Bible, I would recommend the King James version, and The New American Standard, but you have to do your own research and find out what Greek translation was used. For instance, if someone says that he found a Greek manuscript and said it was older than the one used by the KJV and the NASB, you have to ask, was the one used by the KJV, newer because it was made later, or newer because it was a word for word copy of an original and had the original been destroyed because it was torn apart through much reading? So instead of insulting Fundamental Christians, you have to go through all the internet and the scholarly urls and find out for yourself. I am a Conservative Christian by the way, which is rather different that what you conceive as Fundamentals . I believe the Bible is the word of God, am against abortion, am pro=life, against homosexual behavior, believe one has to be married to have s*x, etc. and drinking in moderation. Many Fundamentals believe you should not drink period.
@lizzyt2007 (1312)
• Craig, Alaska
24 Jan 08
I don't believe its the version of the bible that makes it the originally bible created, its more what does the bible teach? does it talk about God and his name? does it talk correctly about Jesus and does it teach about God? Those are the questions I go thru before choosing a bible to read and except. I don't believe that the King James version is the first bible created and its holy. because I read the autobiography on King James and he copied most of the words of the bible and made his bible. i say most of the words because he wrote all buy God's true name in it and he twist a few scriptures. He changed the words in john 3:16 so that it would sound like the trinity was real. but its not cause Jesus said he did nothing without his father. So therefore he is not God.
@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
25 Sep 07
I believe the KJV is the most widely available version of the Bible and thus would be the most trusted by many people. Suffice it to say that many people have only had access to KJV all of their lives, and so trust it and reject other versions of the Bible. Personally I am a little more comfortable using KJV b/c it is the Bible of my youth, all the memory verses in Sunday school I memorized from KJV and most of the Bible studies I have partaken of also used that version. However, many of the more modern translations have also been taken from the original transcripts by Godly men who were well educated in the original languages of the texts and could possibly do a better at clarifying the true texts in modern day languages. If anyone studies extensively they will discover that words were actually put in to the KJV by the translators in order to render the meanings of the passages in the English language even though those words did not exist in the original texts. I believe the Bible to be the infallible Word of God, the different translations are definitely of use for clarity and understanding of the scriptures, whatever version one may be using. I may think in KJV, but I can receive knowledge and clarity about the meaning of those words from many trusted sources, including other translations trusting that they also contain the Word of God.
• United States
26 Sep 07
Yeah I understand how reading something all your life since you were small would make you feel a sense of comfort. It's too bad that those few who say that the KJV is God's chosen book though and discredit all the other translations. Thanks for your response! :)
@Zorrogirl (1502)
• South Africa
25 Sep 07
they say its because it was translated directly into english from the original scriptures. another thing about that is no one can be sure anyway. if you put shakespeares books into normal english, does that suddenly mean its not shakespeare anymore? even though some grammar and words had to be changed... no. its the same...
@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
30 Sep 07
Not necessarily. If you take a word that wasn't used in Shakespears time and inserted it into his works, would it not change the meaning? If we removed half of Hamlet's siloque(sp), as many biblical translations do, would it alter the original concept? Think about it.
• Kottayam, India
2 Oct 07
Bible is inspired by God.,Versions has significance.
@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
4 Oct 07
Each version is different. Some are so different that they don't seem to be the same book. If you believe that the bible is the one true word of God, you must decide which version. Then you must face the consequences if you are wrong. Consequences being how you treat you fellow human being based upon what you have read.
@reene0225 (351)
• United States
25 Apr 08
Yea I grew up hearing that. I don't think it's very accurate. I mean how can they prove it. All Bibles are an interpretation of what was really said. Some are more understandable than others. KJV is just not real clear. Maybe that's why they think it's God's chosen Bible. So it gets more confusing and force us to believe their interpretation. Maybe the real interpretation is hiding elsewhere. Personally I understand the Living Bible a lot easier. I mean it puts it in my terms and my understanding.
@digerati (286)
• Philippines
10 Jul 08
hi lancingboy, i wonder sometimes which is the real and fakes.. but i think to our Catholic since it is the most credible... straight Catholic, digerati
@jodenton (222)
25 Sep 07
This is the first time I've heard this being said. I think it is hilarious!!!