The pagan holy book

Singapore
October 15, 2007 5:13am CST
I was once asked for prove of faith Ancient writings to show our ways Teachings passed down by long forgotten saints Back then I was unable to answer the challenge Shallow was my knowledge and wisdom shared little grace Shame hit hard and flushed my face Now I will smile and spread my arms And invite fellow seekers to listen with me To the ancient wisdom echoing in the winds
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@uath13 (8192)
• United States
15 Oct 07
Considering that centuries ago the christian church was the only place where you could find literate people writing books its not surprising that we don't have one. Even if we did I'm sure they'd have burned it. If writing is all thats required to prove a faith there's a whole section of the library called FICTION that needs a few churches built.
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• Singapore
16 Oct 07
From what I understand, writing in the BC period around the Europe region, was more for ritual purposes. Knowledge was past down by word of mouth. It was during the spread of Christian that monks decided to write down these stories, in fear that they will one day be lost forever. Even though they did put their spin doctors to work on most of the text, we do have them to thank for having much of what we have today. Their old habits did help us in that sense, so let's not be so hard on them shall we? ;)
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
15 Oct 07
*smiles* Yup, it's all around us. =P Whenever asked about my holy book, I do usually point people to some of the historical sources my religion involves... and then say "The rest of it is in here" pointing to my heart, "or in here", pointing to my head, "and out there" pointing to the world. That's something I was first said when I was a little kid, when a teacher asked me at school about my religion, if I remember right. I get frustrated when people try to discredit various types of paganism based off lack of a book. If there weren't any records, we wouldn't know the names of the Gods, or the stories of the heroes, but we could still feel what IS. And personal revelation is always the most powerful force in any truly spiritual life.
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• Singapore
15 Oct 07
Hey hey lecanis! Good to see that you're still active around here :D Sorry I haven't been around, life caught up and (insert list of excuses here). I actually got the inspiration while I was listening to a pagan podcast. It was one on the fact that others denounce our believes because we don't have some form of sacred writing. They say that a religion must have sacred writings. And they are right, paganism isn't a religion, it's a way of life. The universe must have figured that we're too thick to understand what we read. That's why she created a whole set of visual and audio aids called Life. (insert Uncle Sam poster here) Have YOU started living yet? (oops, does that count as evangelizing? Bad pagan, bad!)
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
15 Oct 07
Yup, I'm still around! More active some times than others, but the last few days I've actually been starting a lot more discussions than usual. Umm... though some of them are fueled by my dirty mind. =P Pagan podcasts? That's something I should check out! I've never listened to any pagan podcasts!! I'm not sure I agree on the "not having sacred writings" things. I guess it depends on what form of paganism you follow, but I'd consider things like the Norse Eddas and the Welsh Mabinogion and the Irish mythological cycles and such as "sacred writings". I'm sure some of the other older religions have some too, but I'm sticking with the things I'm familiar with to talk about. Haha, I like the "life" thing. That's a very good way of saying it! Don't start on the "bad pagan, bad!" thing. Reference previous line about my current discussions. *laughs*
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• United States
15 Oct 07
There are many writings sacred to pagan belief systems, and some which have few or none. I found mnay of these to be quite inspiring and to teach important truths. It is a shame that most of these are not more widely known and/or available. I am always eager to read nore texts of religious belief. I trust my soul to recognize the truths they contain and to learn from those truths. I find that many people discount as nonexistant writings because THEY themselves have not heard of them.
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@luzamper (1357)
• Philippines
15 Oct 07
Well I don't know who made that book holy. God is holy and that's why He wants His children to be holy and it is God who makes things holy. Who could be more ancient than God. I do not understand but I hope we read the Holy Bible to acquire true knowledge.
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
15 Oct 07
You're basing your answer on the Bible, when we were specifically talking about paganism. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If you want to take part in the discussion, that's great, but it doesn't make any sense to say "Your religion isn't holy because my religion says it's not." Anyone can say that. We could say that to you, but usually pagans don't bash other people's beliefs like that.
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@lancingboy (1385)
• United States
17 Oct 07
I read a quote once that was pretty nice, although I am not sure exactly how it went or who said it. I'll paraphrase it here as best as I can. "You read the bible which is made of paper and when it's left in the rain and the wind, the paper is destroyed. My bible is the rain and the wind."
• Singapore
18 Oct 07
That's a great quote lancingboy :D thank you!
• United States
15 Oct 07
The pagan faith is an oral tradition, so there is no one book as for Christians who believe in the Holy Bible. The beliefs of pagans are learned from others and tested in our own hearts.
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• Singapore
16 Oct 07
Getting a story wrong or passing down false information was a capital offense (at less for the bards) back in those days wasn't it? Now if only that works for the media nowadays...