Capital Punishment Works.

United States
November 2, 2007 8:52am CST
Ever heard the evidence indicates capital punishment doesn't really work? Having studied how statistics and scientific studies are understood, I've always known it was lie that science showed capital punishment was ineffective. Muslim countries and Sharia law are proof capital punishment reduces murder. Now, there is another actual scientific study showing capital punishment reduces the murder rate. Click this link. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119397079767680173.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries Do you think capital punishment is a good or bad idea? Does it reduce the murder rate?
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
2 Nov 07
Hello Redyellowblackdog, Would you please check your link? I'm not able to access the story. Without knowing the specifics of the new study, I'm a bit in the dark. However, I will say that I am a proponent of Capital Punishment, in cases where DNA evidence proves guilt beyond any doubt, or where the preponderance of evidence is absolutely overwhelming, i.e. multiple, high quality witnesses, murder weapon unequivocably linked to victim, blood evidence found on defendent, etc... At this point in history, DNA evidence is the norm, rather than the exception. Now, I may get lambasted for this, but I'll present it for the sake of debate anyway. What may be most problematic about capital punishment today is it's dilution/sanitization. No one but certain officials, the victim's family, and perhaps a journalist or two, actually witnesses the execution. How is that a deterrent? When the public sees a news story about an execution, the general focus of the story is the protesters outside the prison facility. Rarely, are any specifics of the criminals heinous crimes ever reiterated. This only serves to make people wonder why we would ever consider taking one life as payment for a life or lives that the criminal has taken. What we tend to overlook is that many of these animals simply cannot be rehabilated. The reason why capital punishment worked in the the past is because the whole village, town, city, etc... knew about and generally witnessed the execution. One is far less likely to commit crime if they've seen the horrors of execution -- first hand. Although I've never seen one, I'm told that it's something that doesn't leave one's psyche quickly or easily. So if we're going to be executing hardened, violent criminals, I say we should allow for the maximum deterrent factor by eliminating the sanitization of the act.
2 people like this
• United States
2 Nov 07
Wow, that's a really hard core tough on crime no nonsense position on the issue! How about this? Don't just execute them. Make'em suffer until they beg for fogiveness, do it on pay per view, and give the money to the victim's family? Too bad, this would never be considered. I checked the link. It is working for me.
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• United States
2 Nov 07
That makes sense. If you are going to execute someone, get the maximum deterent value without going overboard. Afterall, the constitution specifically mentions capital punishment but bans cruel and unusual punishment. So, certainly making them beg for mercy is not warranted. I'm sorry for mentioning it. The article you could not link to calculated that about 74 murders are prevented for each execution. The methodology for the calculation looked valid at first glance. I promise that calculation will be argued about by some really smart people for years.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
2 Nov 07
Hello Redyellowblackdog, Please, no apologies. One of the things I most appreciate about your discussions is your matter of fact presentation. The mere suggestion that we, as a society, have sanitized state-sponsored execution, is quite shocking for many to hear. Let alone from a woman! I completely understand your reaction. And, it's not the first time I've gotten it. Although a bit of explanation generally sedates the other party, or at least allow them to calm down to the point where the veins are not popping out of their forehead. They then become more able to absorb the words -- "IF we're going to be doing it anyway, .... ".
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@cher913 (25865)
• Canada
2 Nov 07
although i will get major flack, i have to agree with you because capital punishments gets murderers off the street and doesnt cause a drain on our government coffers.
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@cher913 (25865)
• Canada
2 Nov 07
depends on the counrty i think...??? here in canada they let criminals get away with too much!
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@musicman6 (2391)
• United States
19 Nov 07
I've always believed capital punishment was effective! I've never been able to understand how people can be so heartless to the victims of these criminals, and would want to "pamper the criminal" for such a devastating criminal act! Why can't people see that the lack of punishment for any criminal act, only inspires criminals to not be afraid to do it again! And they complain of the increase in crime!
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• United States
19 Nov 07
There are just too many good hearted naive people who do not believe there are human beings who are cold hearted predators. Not being able to understand these criminals causes the good hearted and naive to feel sorry for them. That's the problem.
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@irisheyes (4372)
• United States
4 Nov 07
Having a national DNA data bank would get many more violent criminals off the street than capital punishment will. As long as there is a possiblity of executing ONE innocent person for a crime they did not commit,(and there always is) I'm against capital punishemnt...DNA is an amazing tool, it not only exonerates the innocent but it also convicts the guilty. There is strong evidence that many violent criminals are serial (murderers, rapists etc.) They are also not reluctant to start brawls, drive drunk etc. If everyone picked up for fairly minor violations submitted to DNA testing and there was a national data bank, we could pull a lot of dangerous criminals off the street and keep them off. We now have the means to protect society and we don't have to risk killing the innocent (usually the poor) to do it but it will cost some money and require the support of the American public.
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• United States
4 Nov 07
A national DNA databank is in our future for sure. The only problem now is that setting this up is still much more expensive and time consuming than people realize. Matching DNA is still a highly skillful time consuming task. Eventually, when it is quick and easy, each baby shortly after birth will be typed and logged. Right now this takes so much time and is so expensive it could not even begin to be done. This is quite similar as to the situation with fingerprints until digital computers got cheap and fast. Believe it or not, even though there was a national database of fingerprints it did not use to be practical to scan the whole thing except for in very important cases. It was too slow and too expensive. Right now, DNA is even slower and more expensive than the old manual fingerprint files.
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@rimsha (806)
• Pakistan
3 Nov 07
I hate punishment
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• United States
3 Nov 07
Me too! The solution to our problem is to behave. Not any fun but it works.
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@NeoComp (1320)
• United States
2 Nov 07
I like Capital Punishment because it gives justice to the person who lost their loved one. But I think the family member should be able to kill their family member's killer.. the SAME way they got killed... Capital Punishment is to easy... a gas chamber.. or leathal injection... is not a real payback... But yeah I like it, It works for those who deserve it.
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• United States
2 Nov 07
What I like is the evidence is now pretty strong it reduces the murder rate, making society a safer place.
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@uath13 (8204)
• United States
12 Nov 07
If the system was set up properly it would be good. Lawers are too good at finding technicalities that get people off just to commmit crimes again. Fix the problems so the criminals actually end up in jails & the innocent people aren't & you'd already be doing 1000000% better. If their really murderers Zap em, I don't feel like supporting them.