The 300

November 11, 2007 4:19am CST
recently saw the movie 300 and it has stimulated an interest in ancient greek history....how ironic that it can be said a facist state (for thats what esssentially Sparta was)was influential in bringing about modern western democracy as it is today..why? well quite simply the 300 spartans that died at Thermopelye resulted in a strengthening of the Greek city states resolve so much so that they swept the Persians out of Greece forever allowing the flourising of Greek philosophy and democracy that later was copied throughout the west.If the Persians had conqured Greece the world of Islam would have spread throughout Europe and modern democracy would not have emerged..aside from the brilliance of Frank Millers adapation what do you think of this view?
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@poohgal (6848)
• Singapore
11 Nov 07
Hello there. I've watched 300 too. I watched it in the theater. I love the spirit of the Spartans - the never say die spirit. It's very commendable. I agree with you that if the Persian had conquered Greece, the world would be very different today. I enjoy the movie. The actors really put in great effort to beef up their bodies. Even though I wouldn't say this movie is good for its cinematography, I enjoy the never say die spirit of the Spartans. It really motivates me to never give up no matter how daunting the task may seem.
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11 Nov 07
thanks for your response...yes i agree with you there is something to be learned from the Spartan attitude especailly in our modern world where sustainability is the key to our future wellbeing although as with all past societies there ares ome things we can learn from ans some things that we would discorage...
@chamberd1 (240)
• United States
11 Nov 07
Jesus still had 400 yrs. before he was born (the birth of Christianity). Mohammed still had another 600 years or so (the birth of Islam). The Muslims did make it to Europe via the Straight of Gibralter. Learn before you type.
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11 Nov 07
dont be so sure of yourself.."learn before you type " how rude are you...?? im posing a hypothetical question here which has nothing to do with dates on the calendar...sure if the Persians had of controlled the Greek mainland then there is the possibility that Islam would not have been allowed to develop..we all know that the Muslims were in Spain for several hundred years...the point im making is that western civilisation based on the Greek model would not have made the vast impact it did...as we all know greek language and civilization dominated the easterm mediterrnean for hundreds of years and gave us such great philosophers and other aspects of their culture..
• India
11 Nov 07
Ilove that movie very much .i have watched that movie near about six times.i just love the way that movie is taken.every frame has a touch of class.all actors have performed brilliantly.the graphics work is par excellent.also the story is very inspiring too.its one of my all time favourites
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11 Nov 07
im not sure about the movie as a story or as an epic...the special effects and the graphics are key to the movie.. i may be being sexist here but dont think the film appeals to a very wide audience..any females out there who would like to throw in their two cence worth??
• Australia
12 Nov 07
I enjoyed the cinematography a lot but when you really look at it, the plot was pretty bad. There were some really good scenes, but they were focused more on camera technique, special effects and "shock value" rather than developing an actual plot. I do realise however that it is based on a true story and I do like how they played around with it by adding mythical creatures. And yes, the Athenians were the creators of Democracy. Nadine.
12 Nov 07
sure.. i made a comment earlier to the same effect...the plot of the film is loose and weak it depends how true to recorded history the director and producer wanted the film...i dont think they were interested in a plot just to retel the valour and self sacrifice of the Spartans... men from the part of Grece today that was Sparta still hold their ancestors in great regard and believe they truly are descended from Hercules the killer of Lions.. the name Leonidas indeed means "of lions" there are direct quotes for example from Herodatus who was one of the main sources of recorded writings for those times.."Persian arrows will blot out the sun" ... "then we will fight in the shade"...the background to the Spartans is historically correct as far as we know...Frank Miller did however add a bit in his graphic novel on which the film is based which carries over well for the movie...no creatures fought in the battle for example and the Spartans certainly did wear armour..Miller depicted the Spartans in his graphic novel as bare chested to differentiate them from the Persian masses....the deformed creature who betrays the Spartans by telling the Persians of the old goat trail that leads to the back of the Spartan army is certainly enhanced in appearance for effect..there is no historical evidence of the betrayor being deformed with a hunch.. i think Miller uses this for dramatic effect to emphasise the practise of Eugenics the Spartans indulged in and later on Hitler praised..in modern Greek the name of the betrayor is now synonymous with the english translation of nightmare...
• United States
11 Nov 07
I thought it was a good movie. While the overall look of the movie is quite dissimilar to Frank Miller's Sin City, it's still very much in line with his beautiful artwork. With the help of a heap of CGI, Snyder does an astonishing job of bringing a hyper-reality to believable fruition.
12 Nov 07
if you have access to the dvd check out the special features... the whole film was done on a sound stage becasue Miller didnt think a real life location would do justice to the effects he wantted to create...the movie is dark and Gothic in some parts which has more of a dramatic effect..most Battles in this part of the ancient world were fought in full sun in very hot conditions due to the locations and the climates of those areas... it doesnt quite seem right when such dreadful bloodshed and loss of life takes place in a soundless and beautifully sunny background...
• India
2 Sep 08
300 is an absolutely terrific movie. the attitude, the valour the spartans display send a chill down my spine. so much to keep their honour. they challenged and even demured a person who projected himself as god. i think they were bogged down by the wrong priests who just had no respect for these warriors. my personal favorite line in the movie when the king says : SPARTANS NEVER RETREAT!!!!!!!!!!. the greatest sequence when the king as a young lad fights the beast and also , when he kicks the intruder into the well..
@Monkeyrose (2850)
• Canada
12 Nov 07
The movie is loosely based on history as it is based on a comic strip. I have not done the research myself to know whether or not this situation actually happened. It is my understanding that the Athenians were the more philosophical ones who had the democracy. They were a totally different city state from Sparta.
• Philippines
12 Nov 07
the movie was great! i love the cinematography! not only did it inspire me to change but it also inspired me to get in shape!
@amitavroy (4823)
• India
11 Nov 07
well yes let me tell you even i have seen the movie and because i knew about their history and specially the spartans have a very heroic tale. so the movie impressed me a lot and i have seen it a lot of time. i even dowloaded a whole dvd torrent of its making