How far would you go to save a life of a pet?

United States
November 14, 2007 1:16pm CST
I have two friends with dogs. Both of these friends have dogs that have tumors. One friend took her dog in to the vet and let the vet do surgery to remove tumor. The vet wanted to send the dog up to UC Davis in California for Radiation therapy. The dog is 14 years old with mild kidney failure. She has decided to leave well enough alone and let the dog live until he his quality of life deteriorates also. The other friend has a dog with a large tumor and upon x-ray the tumor is in the abdomen. She decided to let the dog live until his quality of life deteriorates. My question to you is how far would you go for your beloved pet? How much money would you spend on your pet? I have to admit I did take both of my cats in for a check up this week. Sammy is 10 and fine. Abigail has a hernia, which needs repairing because her bowel slips out through it. I have scheduled surgery for Monday. Surgery is going to be $150 then I expect Abigail to have a long life. If the hernia was cancerous or if fixing it would not have given Abigail a long life I may have decided not do the surgery.
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@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
14 Nov 07
I have never had an animal that got seriously ill with something that was curable. I would think that if I loved my dog enough, I would not want to know or think that he was suffering in any way. If he was, I would want to go ahead and have him put down for his sake. I do not think that it is fair for us to have are pets poked, proded, and cut up, just because we can not bear to let them go. But, if a surgery would actually help, I would be all for it. Depending on my financial situation and how much the surgery cost. There are times you can spend a lot of money and the animal passes anyway. But, I guess you are left with the peace that you did all that you can.
@juhiram (187)
17 Nov 07
i will treate life of an animal as equal to the life of a person and how far we suffer to save a life of a person in danger situation through good hospitals i will try to save pets by contacting good animal specialists docters to save the life of a pet it will be good blessing for us !!
@ElicBxn (63243)
• United States
17 Nov 07
Henry - This is a shot before he lost half his left ear to the removal of the cancer.
I have had many cats live various numbers of years. Hobo had diabeties, Henry had hyper thyroidism & some skin cancer, The Doctor had a malignant thyroid tumor. I lost them, and many others to kidney failure.
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@ElicBxn (63243)
• United States
5 Dec 07
Sassy, our 16 yr old "foster" has 2 pellets in her from before she came to live with us. She also has a hernia down around her spay incision. Since its a very small hernia & only some fat sticking out and the pellets are harmlessly under the skin, we'd rather not knock her out at 16. So long as she's happy (well, grumpy actually most the time) then we'll let her be. She's in no pain, she likes pets & wet food, and doesn't care for the other cats, she's teaching all the youngsters to respect the old lady.
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• United States
5 Dec 07
Sammy the one in my Avatar I just found a hard lump in her abdomen. It is movable and in the skin. I have decided to leave it alone. It is not painful and she is fine with it. I have seen a lot of people get rid of them and it makes things so much worse on the pet. She is ten years old so I will leave well enough alone.
• United States
6 Dec 07
I will let Sammy live her life out. I love her so much and she seems to be fine with the tumor or growth what ever you want to call it. I think it might be a fatty tumor the way it feels. I think she if fine.
• United States
15 Nov 07
Well, if spending the money meant that my pet would have a long healthy life then I would spend it, no hesitation. Like your friends, if they were old pets who wouldn't have much time with or without the surgery, I would probably leave well enough alone too. Although it would kill me inside a little! But if it was a young pet that would have a life in front of them after the surgery, I'd do it!
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• United States
16 Nov 07
Oh I understand how being disabled and other personal crisis can effect stuff like this. But I answered this question thinking just like I am...I would pay the money if my life was like my life now. I'm not sure what I would do. I know if I asked my parents would give me the money to save my cat.
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• United States
5 Dec 07
I have no one to ask for the money.
• United States
16 Nov 07
That is my opinion except if I did not have the money and could not make the payments. Two years ago I became disabled and am now slowly digging out of debt and had no extra money. I think if I had to spend extra money on Abigail last year I could not have done it.
@angemac23 (2003)
• Canada
14 Nov 07
I think I would die for my kitty...I love him so much, I cant bear the thought of anything happening to him!
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@Margajoe (4709)
• Germany
15 Nov 07
Hi, I have had a hernia 10 years ago. The operation was a very painful experience. I know I am not a kat. But that is what makes it so sad. A cat cannot express itself. Does your cat have pain? (does the vet need extra money?) If it does not have pain, I myself would not let it get operated on. I love animals. But when an animal is in pain, I will let it be put to sleep. Unless,I am absolutly sure it will get better. In that case I would do what ever I can. Good luck, take care.
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• United States
15 Nov 07
My cat was in pain when he suffered from a bladder blockage that caused his kidneys to shut down, and I did consider putting him down, but decided against it when I considered how I valued my cat. I depleted (went broke) my savings account for my furry little friend. While there is always the chance that it could happen again, there is a reduced risk due to his special diet of food with low ash and calcium content (another expense, as the budgeted cat food just went obsolete and now I pay over double what I was for cat food. :-)
• United States
15 Nov 07
Why I choose to have the hernia repaired on Abigail is her bowel is falling through the hernia. What can happen is it can get stuck in the hernia and twisted and then the blood supply cut off that part of the bowel. I know this because I am an RN and have seen this happen to people. I know if that happens to Abigail she will be very sick, and be in a lot of pain and it will cost me a lot of money to put her down. I am saving money in the long run.
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@Margajoe (4709)
• Germany
15 Nov 07
Yes, I can understand your attachment to your furry friend. I love animals myself. And if you think , the cat is happy and has no pain. Sure you are doing the right thing. It is to bad that everything, now a days, is so expensive. Take care.
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@chargoans (939)
• United States
15 Nov 07
Great question! I just recently spent $500 on a 3 year old cat that was suffering from a blocked bladder. I didn't realize there was a problem until the cat squatted to pee right in front of me (not in the litter box) and only urinated about a teaspoon! I was so worried as he (the cat named Dobby) seemed to strain to produce that little bit. The vet worked us in two weeks ago and determined that my beloved roommate needed to be catherized and given IV to return fluids to his dehydrated overweight body. I was shocked. I went to the bank and depleted my savings account, but only after sincerely considering just putting him down as it was the cheaper alternative. My vet told me that his own cat suffers from the same thing and once the blockage was removed a special diet would need to be followed and that would minimize the chance of it happening again. So I have already paid a substantial amount of money for my furry friend who helped me get through losing my oldest daughter in a car accident 2 years ago. If it hadn't been for Dobby, I think I would have gone stir-crazy! So while I no longer have a savings account, I think it was a small price to pay for the well-being of my friend who concerned himself totally to my well-being for the past two years!
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• United States
16 Nov 07
It sounds like Dobby needs you as much as you need him. I know how it is to be able to have a pet to help you though a hard time. I have not lost a child and could never know what heatache you went through. I am glad you had Dobby and thanks for sharing your touching story. I think I would have spend the money on him also.
• United States
16 Nov 07
We found ourselves asking this very question last week when our 2-year-old cockapoo, Kip, suddenly developed a ruptured disc and went from being a happy, healthy dog to being paralyzed from the waist down and in terrible pain, OVERNIGHT! First I took him to our local vet, who kept him for the day, ran some tests, and charged us $400. Then I had to move him to the emergency animal hospital, who had him for another 24 hours (another $350). We were then told that he was not improving and in a lot of pain, and we would need to decide if we wanted to drive him to the University of Columbia's Vetrinary teaching hospital for surgery, an hour and a half away, or put him to sleep. We were told upfront that the surgery is very expensive and there is an 80% chance that it will be successful and Kip will regain full use of his back legs and bladder/bowels. What an awful decision to have to make! It was a tough decision but we ended up driving him to Columbia for the surgery and 6 days later he is doing very well. He can empty his bladder and move his bowels on his own now, and he is slowly regaining the use of his back legs. I brought him home the day before yesterday and he is recooperating in a crate. He is not allowed to come out of his crate unless it is to go to the bathroom or do his physical therapy! NO ACTIVITY WHATSOEVER FOR 2 MONTHS! The surgery and hospitalization was $3500. Unfortunately, we had to put all of this on a credit card. I'd be lying if I said money was not a factor in our decision but with Kip being so young, we just couldn't put him down. This is something I could've never anticipated, though, and I can see how some people wouldn't have the option of surgery, if their finances just didn't permit it. It's been an awful ordeal.
• United States
5 Dec 07
What an awful ordeal to go through and I hope he continues to improve.
@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
15 Nov 07
In my country... pets are not given that much attention not like in the US or in Europe... most of the people in my country treat pets like dogs are a guard to the house instead of a best friend... I don't have a pet so i still do not know how attach i can be to one... but i think if i have the ways and means... and i have fallen in love with my pet... then i would do everything to save its life...
• United States
15 Nov 07
It sounds like having the ways and means to pay for a pet is a big factor. I also think quality of life should be a factor also, I know it is for me. When I was growing up we had lots of animals some for meat and some for pets. We learned which ones we where going to eat and which ones we where going to keep as pets. The milk goats we named, the mother rabbits we named but not their babies that we where going to eat we did not name nor did we become attached to so later on when it came time to butcher the animal we could.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
15 Nov 07
That's a hard question to answer, and unfortunately a lot has to do with money. It sounds like the $150 is nothing compared to what I've heard some people paying for their "babies" health. If it were a question of unlimited funds and one of my fur babies needed drastic vet care, no problem, unfortunately that isn't the case for me, unless I could pay in installments somehow. Years and years ago, I had to make the decision to put one of my babies down, due to lack of money.. I blame the shat vet my grandmother took him, Friskey to. I was away on vacation when all this happened. When I came back Friskey was gone. He had had some kind of seizure, and my grandmother who lived with us, took him to our vet. This was a vet we trusted and had gone to for years. I don't know what the hell happened though. Number one, he was to be in the vet's for about two weeks, and the shat vet wouldn't let us visit him. At the time we just trusted the vet and thought this was common practice as the vet said, oh if you visit him (Friskey) he might become upset. We didn't know at the time that this was the wrong thing to do. A vet should always allow the owner to visit. Well times goes by and we're getting anxious to have Friskey come home and our vet was very vague as to what was wrong with him. Finally we said ENOUGH, we want to bring him home. And we were for a shock. Friskey's one leg was all bandaged up...like WTF?? There had been nothing wrong with his leg! The vet didn't give us any medication or anything. Okay, now we have him home but he was listless and in obvious pain. It got worse and we took him to another vet. A big 24-hour clinic place, very well known in Manhattan. After the vet examined his leg and all, he said Friskey had gangrene..like WHAT? How the hell did he get that? So the vet gave us two choices. One, the leg would have to be amputated and he would need "therapy" so he could get used to walking on only three legs...at a cost of thousands and thousands of dollars. OR, two..you can guess. Put him down. We just didn't have the money to have him have the surgery ...so... My "lovely" mother couldn't "handle" making the decision so left it up to me..Crap I was only eleven years old and she's expecting ME to make that decision?? As a end note...that first vet, the one we had gone to for years and trusted had a LOT of complaints against him by others...and you better believe we never went back to him
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
15 Nov 07
LOL--maybe we should collaborate and write our own versions of "Mommie Dearest"? But that was my mom..she palmed off responsibilities off on everyone else. It took me too many year to realize that. No putting a beloved pet is never easy. There were to be a few more kitties I had to put down as they were just to ill to make it
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• United States
5 Dec 07
Its not easy putting a beloved pet down but in my opinion it is easier to put a pet down than watch it suffer.
• United States
15 Nov 07
What a horrible story, you where screwed all around from the vet to your mother making you decided. You where too young to make that decision. You sound like you had a crappy childhood like I did, thats another story. I know my babies I love dearly and I cannot let them be in pain or suffer. I have had to put down a dog I use to have. She was so sweet but she was all beathen up and I could not afford to fix her up. I miss her like carzy.
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@vicki2876 (5636)
• Canada
15 Nov 07
This is so sad looking at my little baby. Baby BJ is over 2 years and that is a hard thing to say. I would love to be able to fix anything if the need arose but realistically the cost would be a factor too. My sister did a surgery for her new kitten and it was $750. I wish the vet had payment plans because then I would do something that much but they want it upfront. I don't have an emergency money even for my kids. Sad.
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• United States
16 Nov 07
As much as I love Sammy, Abgail and Petie, my pets I have to think of myself and my family first. I think if I did not I could easily go so deep in debt for pets I could never get out.
@laurika (4532)
• United States
15 Nov 07
My dad is veterniary and he was teaching me, that it doesn't really depend on us, how much we want to spend. Even if we would try to help the pet, it can be only harming him, because after exact operation he jsut canot walk or do such and such things. when my brother was at university they ha a expensive horse there for surgery and it cost a lot of money, but horse never could run again anymore. So that makes me thinking if it was worth to get him thorugh all that pain and now he would be only in his cage anyway.
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@blueunicorn (2401)
• United States
14 Nov 07
That is a hard question to answer. I guess it would be different for everyone. I would have done the same as your friends in the situations you describe. I think $500 would probably be about the cap I would put on medical care for a pet at one time. Then again, it depends on the situation. I don't have a lot of money, so $500 is a lot to me. I don't believe in going into debt over the life of a pet. I don't know why I feel that way, and I hope you don't think I am heartless.
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• United States
15 Nov 07
I do love my pets and I agree there has to be a limit to how much I can spend. If I had the money then I think then the option is quality of life.
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• United States
15 Nov 07
Quality of life would always be the first thing that I would look at. There is no use spending a ton of money keeping a pet alive if they are not going to be able to enjoy the extra life that they are given. That's a good point!
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• United States
15 Nov 07
Thanks.
• United States
15 Nov 07
Well, I have to say that sometimes you can't save your pet and there are some things that you have to choose to do. The question now is how far would you go to end their suffering? Not too long ago my kitten was run over by a car. She was still alive but not doing well at all. I'll leave out the details, but she stayed alive longer than she needed to. So, what do I do? Leave her to die like that suffering or end it for her. I chose the latter. But how? You have to be humane at least in some kind of sense. So, I ended up sufficating her with the exaust of a car. Silent but deadly... What would you have done?
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• United States
15 Nov 07
If I could not have taken her to the vet I think that is the best way no pay. If you would have drowned her she would have suffered. I do not know if I could have slit her throat. I agree with you I think you did the right thing. You are my hero because I do not think I could have done it.
• United States
5 Dec 07
It does not matter if you cried the whole time you did what you did. You where brave and you did it out of love for your cat. I admire you.
• United States
16 Nov 07
I couldn't have cut her throat... I chose the least painful. I cried the whole time too. I'm a guy by the way. I just broke my heart. No choice was going to be easy. Sometime stuff like that is just thrown at you in life and you have to deal with it as best as you can.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
14 Nov 07
Like you I think it depends on the outcome If it gives them a longer painless Life then yes but if not then I would not go through with it I am glad to see you back as I have been worried I sent you an Email Love and Hugs
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• United States
15 Nov 07
Thanks for the love and hugs. I have been very busy. I have been voluinteering at a mini-farm where there where there was a lot of farm animals and school children came over to learn about them. I help out a friend for two weeks after being on vacation for three weeks. I also have been canning fruits and veggies. I sured missed you all too.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
14 Nov 07
I really don't know what I would do...it's not like we have pet health insurance. I think I would probably just have to keep the pet as comfortable as I could for as long as I could and then opt for it to be "put to sleep". I'd feel bad but that's why I didn't want any pets right now. I did rescue one of our kittens last night that got her head stuck in an empty vegetable can...
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• United States
15 Nov 07
Arn't kittens so silly they do the darnest things.
@Wyayenjee (160)
• United States
14 Nov 07
I would donate my kidney to my lovely puppy...if it's possible... That would be cool...
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• United States
15 Nov 07
I do not think my kidney would fit. My dog is 6lbs and I am an adult. I think my kidney would take up his whole abdomen. LOL
@taurus67 (176)
• Philippines
15 Nov 07
if you really love your pet you will not let him suffer any pain...so for me I will let her go.
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• Canada
14 Nov 07
I would do whatever was necessary to provide my pet with whatever medical care he needed, irrespective of cost, age, or life expectancy - to withold medical care due to age is known as age discrimination, and I strongly believe that if a pet's life is important, it is important at every age and degree of overall health. My dog and I shared some of the best moments of our time together in the last few months of his life. We had a chance to grow very close as I cared for him through his illness, and if I had followed prevailing 'wisdom' of the general public and of most veterenarians, we would have missed out on this very special time together. Many studies of human psychology indicate that physical suffering due to life-threatening or terminal illnesses is greately alleviated, and often becomes irrelevant to the individual person's self-perceived 'quality of life', when their psychological needs are being met (i.e., if a person feels loved, and feels that they are important to their family and friends, they want to live for as long as possible no matter how much physical suffering may be involved). I imagine that this applies to pets as well. So I think that showing my pet how much I loved him, whether heathy or sick, whether young or old, as well as offering him whatever medical care I could, was the most caring thing I could do for him in that situation.
• United States
15 Nov 07
I just cannot stand to see my pet suffering. I cannot stand it when humans have to suffer. My Sammy is sitting on my lap purring her head off. I would sure miss her if she was gone but I would feel she would be in a better place.