Its in your lease !!!

@fyrechsr (293)
United States
November 28, 2007 7:39am CST
I had a situation last night that kind of upset me a bit. We live in a town house complex and there really isnt anywhere for children to play other than of course the 2 tot lots available. The problem is that if your children are over say 6 years old there is nothing for them to do on the tot lots considering it is targeted for children ages 1 to 5. So my child (age 10) was out front of our townhome playing with his scooter on the side walk. Well the security guard came right up and said you cant ride there. you have to go to the tot lot. Ok first of ask where the parents live and ring the doorbell. Speak to the parents. Second- ride in the tot lot???? Have you ever been on a scooter and tried to ride through the wood chips that are on the ground everywhere? I'm thinking it wouldnt work to well and kind of defeat the purpose. So anyway, my son came in and told us he got in trouble. We heard his side then my boyfriend went out and talked with the guard. He was "politely" (use that lightly) told its in your lease. Well I would like to know about the kids that are in the street day after day setting up jumps and riding there skateboards like they are in a skate park. Because they are in the street its ok? I dont get it. WOW. Where are the older children supposed to play. There is no where. We go to the park quite often so they can burn some energy but should't they be able to play at home as well. Does anyone out there have the same or somewhat the same situation? What do you do? or what would you do if you were in this situation?
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• United States
26 Dec 07
With renting like that, you've got to be accomondating to the tenants around you. I understand their rules -- I have a rental home as well and will NOT rent to anyone with children or planning on having children before the lease is up. Toys get left out. People trip. Skateboarders zoom by. People get knocked down. I can understand why they have the rules they have. I used to rent and the kids next door in the townhome next to mine used to skateboard ramp off of my front porch. After talking to the parents did not work, I called the police and filed a complaint about the kids doing this all hours of the day and night. I got the management involved and they did nothing. So I pressed charges against the parents and we did not wind up going to court after they swore up and down they'd keep their kids on the other end of the complex. I said that was fine. The street is one thing. Sidewalks are another. Sidewalks are owned by the complex. Streets are owned by the city. Short of having him ride in the street, the tot lot is all you've got. Pick up his scooter and take him there or buy him something that you can run through wood chips with.
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@fyrechsr (293)
• United States
27 Dec 07
I am not sure where you live but i have always heard that what you do by "NOT renting to anyone with children or planning on having children before the lease is up" is discrimination and against the law. do you screen people when they are looking to rent and ask them if they are planning to get pregnant? What happens when one of your tenants doesnt "plan" on getting pregnant but ends up that way? Are you going to kick them out. Obviously by finding something to justify the eviction? I can understand about accommodating neighbors and all that. That is not the problem. i am friends with my neighbors and they feel the same way I do. children can play in the street (private road, not maintained by the city) but not on the safety of the side walk. As for buying my children something else that the can ride through he wood chips in??? Do you have any suggestions that resembles a scooter?????
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@fyrechsr (293)
• United States
30 Dec 07
Maybe you should check out the Fair Housing Act. Heres a link for you. www.hud.gov/offices/fheo/FHLaws/ I found it kind of interesting.
• United States
27 Dec 07
" am not sure where you live but i have always heard that what you do by "NOT renting to anyone with children or planning on having children before the lease is up" is discrimination and against the law." No, actually it's not. I have the right to refuse any and all tenants. It's no different than discriminating against people with pets. Same thing. I own it. Therefore I can say who goes in and who doesn't. If I see they have kids, I deny them on the spot and tell them why. They can get p*ssy or get mad, but they can get glad in the same boots they got mad in. And before you ask, nothing against kids, but I'll never rent to a family with kids again. I spent nearly $2000 renovating my house after a 5 year old little hellion of a child destroyed it. I had to take that family to small claims court, get a judgement and a writ of garnishment and garnish the man's wages to pay me back. All the carpet had to be ripped up, the cabinets were ruined and had to be restained due to crayon and Sharpie marker marks, sheetrock had little wheel marks on it where the kid took his toy trucks and ran them up and down the walls, the whole place had to be repainted, the bathtub had to be refinished due to those bathtub crayons staining the porcelain, gum and candy were stuck to the walls/flooring, the AC unit had to be replaced due to it never being cleaned and the house was filthy thanks to a snot nosed little 5 year old running around. That's why. I have rented to a man with a 110 lb lab and that lab only dug a few holes in the back yard. The man bought the dirt to fill in the holes and spread grass seed around so the grass would grow back. "do you screen people when they are looking to rent and ask them if they are planning to get pregnant?" Sure do. I can generally tell who wants kids or not. Right now, I've got a 52 year old man and his 48 year old wife living in my rental house. Obviously, no kids there. Newlyweds, never rent to them unless they agree no kids for a year or they can pay a $650 termination fee to break their lease if the woman does get pregnant. Married people with no kids for about 4 years, certainly will never rent to them unless they up front tell me they are child free or if they pay the termination fee if she gets pregnant. It's in bold letters in my lease and is clearly spelled out on the application. The applicants have to initial and sign where it states the terms of the no kids clause. My sister is a notary public so I always get her to notarize the lease when we are all present so it's 100% a legal binding contract. It's on my application in big bold letters "NO KIDS! NO EXCEPTIONS" "What happens when one of your tenants doesnt "plan" on getting pregnant but ends up that way? Are you going to kick them out. Obviously by finding something to justify the eviction? " Sure the heck do evict them and I have once. It's in my lease -- NO KIDS NO EXCEPTIONS. They knew that when they signed it. They clearly broke the lease and by that definition, it gives me legal grounds to force them out by any means possible. Same thing if they rut up my yard, change the locks, get violent pets or cause excess noise to disturb the neighbors. I can evict them for a number of reasons. If it's in the lease and they violate it, they will be evicted. Again, the lease is notarized, they have a copy, and I have a copy so it's a 100% legal binding contract. "I can understand about accommodating neighbors and all that. That is not the problem. i am friends with my neighbors and they feel the same way I do. children can play in the street (private road, not maintained by the city) but not on the safety of the side walk." With a private street, I can see how it wouldn't be dangerous, but IMO aren't streets bigger than sidewalks? Wouldn't there be more room to play without getting mixed up with a neighbor trying to carry in groceries and your kid trips that neighbor without realizing it? "As for buying my children something else that the can ride through he wood chips in??? Do you have any suggestions that resembles a scooter?????" Nope. Sorry. I don't have kids and never will. I know nothing about toys.
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@soccermom (3198)
• United States
28 Nov 07
I'd check into that if I were you. I was under the impression that the sidewalks are city property (at least they are were I live) and people are free to use them as they please. That security guard must be really bored if he has nothing better to do.
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@fyrechsr (293)
• United States
28 Nov 07
Well that is what I was thinking. I did look in the lease and it states in there that there is no rollerblades, skate boards or bikes allowed on the side walk. I guess scooters fall under that too. Apparently they want the children in the streets.
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• Canada
30 Dec 07
My question would be if this took place on the building property, or city property. If it's on city property, then I don't think that building security would have a right to say anything. If it's on the building property, then I would think they have the right to ask tenants to keep them clear (ie: not allowing kids to play on them). If it's the building property, they may be concerned with the side walks being blocked, or toys left behind. They need to keep the sidewalks safe so that they don't open themselves up to any potential law suits.
@dania_elm (421)
• United States
3 Jan 08
we have a large corner lot there are 3 duplexes behind us that do not have a yard we allow the children that live there to play in our yard as long as they are respectful of our property they use the swings and patio for skating basketball hoop and in the summer if their parents are outstide with me and my kids they use the pool as well its a shame that people expect you to pay high rent and have nowhere for your kids to play most property owners dont allow neighborhood kids in their yard the rentals dont stay occupied for very long and then a new family moves in my kids have many friends this way
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@fyrechsr (293)
• United States
4 Jan 08
I think that is very nice of you. There is only so much room to play here in the yards if you want to call them that. Our yard is a hill the at the bottom is a brick wall. Dont get me wrong the kids play out there and have fun but scooters dont really work. Im not the type of mom who lets her kids run rampid around the neighborhood so they are very limited in where to play. Im glad there are people out there who are understanding like you are. Its just to bad there has to be fools out there also.
• United States
5 Jan 08
thank u for saying so the parents around here think its great also they help with the yardwork wich is awesome they jokingly call it "our yard" or "the community yard" wich is ok all kids need somewhere safe to play it is to bad that some people just dont have the mentality to realize that