THere IS NO santa.. And i wont lie to my kids..will you?

Canada
December 6, 2007 12:41pm CST
If i lie to my children about santa clause existing (which he doesnt) and then when they are older they find out it was a LIE then they wont trust their parents anymore Does lying to your kids make any sense? They will wonder when they are older.. what else has my parents lied about.. I will not listen to them anymore! hmmwill you lie to your kids this year?
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
6 Dec 07
Are you also going to teach your kids that a box is just a box (instead of an airplane, car.. etc). Are you also going to teach them that their favorite cartoon caracters are just ink and/or colored pixels? You know, I can't think of one kid who has ever looked at his parents and called them liars when they learned there isn't a Santa Claus... but I know a lot of adults who are afraid it might happen. We've already stolen so much of what it should mean to be a kid. It's sad that we are ready to steal more, just because we've forgotten the wonderful world of wonder and imagination.
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• United States
6 Dec 07
You took the words right out of my mouth. Children have the rest of their lives to deal with the real world. Let them enjoy the wonders of childhood- including believing in Santa.
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• United States
6 Dec 07
Sorry, but I may be an exception here, but I did feel like I was lied to. As for imagination, yeah, let them have it, but just let them know that even if they play in their imagination, there is still reality, and the real reason we celebrate Christmas.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
6 Dec 07
Carmel, no offense, but you remind me of Peter Banning in Hook, when he looked at his daughter's flower and said, "It's just paper".
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@rebeka (364)
• Romania
6 Dec 07
i still trust mt mother and so thousands of children... santa clause is part of childhod... how would u react if your child come home some day and cry that santa did not come to him but it did to others... children talk...
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@rebeka (364)
• Romania
7 Dec 07
why don't u celebrate christmas? i would bother me if i hear other kids talking about the gifts they recived, about the fir they adorned...but its your kid, u know how u raised him...and it's not such a big deal if he later finds out there is no santa
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• Canada
7 Dec 07
If that were to happen I would tell them the truth that parents just make that up to their kids and they are all in on it, its not true so dont worry Plus we dont celebrate xmas, so i dont think it will bother him
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• Canada
9 Dec 07
well i dont celebrte christmans because i believe its a pagan holiday ,therefore i stay away from it, because im not a pagan :) theres a few people on mylot who are pagans ive seen their threads, and some of them are offended by christians stealing their holiday lol
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@angelface23 (2494)
• United States
6 Dec 07
I was brought up on Santa Clause so I will tell my daughter about him. I think it's just a tradition. I don't think it will adversly affect her if when she is 8 or so to tell her that there is no Santa. Or I will just let her find out for herself.
@jillhill (37354)
• United States
6 Dec 07
Well maybe he doesn't live at your house....but he is a fantasy my whole family enjoys. When my kids were little and found out about Santa....or those who claim he never existed, I explained that he lives in the heart of someone who loves...and as long as they believed he would still vistit them on Christmas......so now as adults.....if they are here they still get their stockings filled from Santa....so whenever they are home they let me know that they still believe in Santa.
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@Sillychick (3275)
• United States
6 Dec 07
I will tell my son about Santa, and I will let him believe in the magic for as long as possible. It is what makes being a child so wonderful- the freedom to believe in fantasy. When he gets older, I won't tell him it was all a made up 'lie' I will continue to talk to him about the Idea of Santa, the spirit of giving. It is what Christmas is all about to me. Did you believe in Santa? Did you stop trusting or obeying your parents when you found out about their 'lie?'
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• Philippines
7 Dec 07
Yes Virginia,there is no such thing as Santa Claus.He is nothing more than just a fictional character,whose legend has been perpetrated knowingly or not by people who would rather put their trust on a pagan god than in Jesus Christ.He has been put on equal footing with God-"he knows if you've been bad or good", omnipresent-"he is able to deliver toys to anyone in the world in one night".I invite you all to read Chapter 14 of the Antichrist Conspiracy - www.antichristconspiracy.com and judge for yourselves the diabolical essence of Santa Claus. I urge you to focus on Jesus and the real meaning of Christmas, because Santa can never be God.
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@addysmum (1225)
• Canada
11 Dec 07
Something I have found is that you only respond to those with the same opinion. That is not a call for discussions but a call for those with your opinion, if you really cared for others opinions you would engage others in discussion and give your view not just agree with those who share your ideas. That is what the word discussion implies a sharing of all opinions and ideas.
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@addysmum (1225)
• Canada
12 Dec 07
I understand not responding to everyone that is out to bash you but when you are asked questions (like I did) it is polite to reply. As far as Santa being God that is so far off base that I can't even justify that with a response it is stupid. Santa is fun for the kids making it fun for the adults and some people don't believe in the Christian God. As I said in my first post if you are not teaching them about Santa for a reason of faith then I hope you also teach them to not tell others there is no Santa so as to not wreck it for others. If you are not teaching them about Santa only because you feel it is all lies then you need to know it is not all lies it is based on a real person and maybe you should teach them that. Saint Nick (the real person) did go door to door to as many places as he could on Christmas eve to give money and small gifts to others (in the tradition of the 3 wise men) as the tradition grew and others followed along so did the myth of Santa. That doesn't make him a God it makes him a myth based on a real person, so teach them about the good things Saint Nick did.
• Canada
12 Dec 07
if you went through i i have replied to others that disagree with me and thats their opinion, i dont have to answer every response because I am being attacked pretty much with the same stuff, my poor kids i never said i wouldnt let me kids have immagination, pretending that a box is a car is DIFFERENT that lying about a man/god That doesnt exist IE santa clause Im sorry if that offends people But thats my opinion, and as you can see people dont like that, but what can i do?
• Canada
13 Dec 07
sorry i didnt see your first post question.. and Yes it is out of my faith and for the fact that it is a lie You should look up the true history of st nicholas the catholic. One great miracle of st nicholas was the 3 boys that were murdered sadistically by an innkeeper,the story goes they were shopped up and st nicholas resurected them.. so theres alot of bs with this story hIS history is not ATTESTED by any historical documents SANTA was borred from norse god of odin look up the word norse and you will find alot of similarities to santa and thats the main reason i wont let my kids believe in santa heres a great website http://altreligion.about.com/library/weekly/aa122005a.htm
@ravinskye (8237)
• United States
6 Dec 07
I don't know anyone who thought that of their parents because of santa claus. My parents told me about santa claus and I never thought that about them. I saw it for what it was, a neat story that gives kids something to look forward to at christmas. its not a lie that hurts anyone.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
6 Dec 07
My children are taught about Santa and like it or not he IS real. There may not be a man in a red suit with flying reindeer but the spirit of it does exist. It is not a lie at all...and yes I also have children old enough to know the"truth". They understood perfectly and my oldest even THANKED me for letting her believe in Santa and teaching her about the spirit in which he was created.
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@kurtbiewald (2625)
• United States
11 Dec 07
the less you lie to your kids, the more they trust you later my mom lied to me about Santa, my dad didn't so when the Easter Bunny says I won the lottery, or whatever, who should I trust?
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• Canada
7 Dec 07
I am not positive but I think my distrust in not only my family but the entire human race began with the Santa lie! I was absolutely in shock and absolutely horrified about this lie. My brother and Sister felt the need to tell me this when I was 8 or 9 years old. I was waiting up all night to see if I could see Santa come to our house. I had done this the year before to but feel asleep so this paticular year I was determined to see him. I am not sure what year my older brother knew because I know the year before he was willing to stay up with me. But he might of been in it for the fun of it. Anyway for a few years following when I would try to talk about my despair about being lied to my brother my sister my parents just thought it was amusing and didn't take me seriously. But I tell you honestly it was bigger then big for me. For the longest time I wondered what else they were lying about. Not just them but every adult in the world was lying. I thought we were suppose to lie? Maybe it was so tramatic for me because nobody took the time to explain the game of it all to me. I really dont' know but all I really do know is it sent me on a journey of who can I trust. No one! Sounds extreme but honestly it did a number on me! It was one of those pivital points in life that you never forget!
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• Canada
9 Dec 07
this is what im talking about thank you
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@marinarovi (1318)
• Argentina
7 Dec 07
Not only my parents lied to me, but also my uncles, my aunts, my brother, and my cousins, who made me go with them through all the neighbourhood to see if we could caught a glance of him inside a house, hahaha, and I'M SO GLAD THEY DID!! I think believing in that kind of stories is a big part of childhood... where does innocence go if you don't believe? And, honest, did you stop trusting your parents when you realised Santa does not exist?
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• Argentina
7 Dec 07
I was never told he knew everything about me bla bla bla... I was only told about a fat guy who loved children and was nice enough to get us all presents to celebrate christmas, no matter whether you have money or not. Behaving well to deserve those presents was entirely up to me. Nobody was watching. I don't agree with the-scaring-the-children-to-make-them-behave part of fairy tales... But I think the nice part is good for little kids. Anyway, it's your life, your kids, and your decision. It's fine if you don't want to lie to them. May I ask if you don't believe in Santa why are you making a discussion to earn a lot of money off him? =)
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• Canada
9 Dec 07
who wouldnt I ??
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• Canada
7 Dec 07
what does innocence have to do with a big fat old guy who knows when your sleeping and knows when your awake, knows if youve been bad or good, oh and he knows about every little child in the world. Kinda creepy what does santa do? watch the little kids through their window?
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• United States
7 Dec 07
There is a Santa Claus! You have believe. Santa lives within each and every one of us. We all can be a Santa to others.
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@Ravenladyj (22904)
• United States
7 Dec 07
AWWW I just gave you a + for that...LOL cause the truth of the matter is YOU ARE SO RIGHT!! Santa DOES live in each of us whether you are talking about the jolly fat guy with the rosey cheeks OR the true Saint himself....Very nice post aceballos!!!
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@skinnychick (6905)
• United States
7 Dec 07
Santa- St. Nicholas is a holiday tradition at least here in the US. Kids grow up too fast as it is- "lying" about Santa is not a malicious lie and kids look forward to Santa coming all year. I want to keep my kids as young as I possibly can- once they get too old for santa and kid stuff- that time is gone and you can't get it back. I say let them believe in Santa after all who doesn't love a fat jolly guy who gives you cool presents?
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@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
7 Dec 07
Well, my kids are all grown up now, but I just want to mention how we handled Santa Claus. When the question came up I always told them the story of St. Nick and how he was a real person who lived a long time ago and gave presents to poor children. So I told them that the spirit of St. Nick is kept alive, that we still give presents and miracles happen because people are touched by it and do good things for others at this time of the year. I also mentioned that all the Santas in the malls are real people who keep this custom alive. They never had a problem with this and were not telling their friends that Santa did not exist. I also want to relate a sad story that happened last Christmas in my extended family. Cousins and relatives got together at Christmas and it is the custom in that family that one of the relatives always dresses up as Santa, comes in and doles out the gifts. There were four children present aged 3, 4, 5 and 8. So Santa comes in hands out the gifts, and as he was about to leave n the 8 year old jumped up, reached over and pulled off Santa's hat and part of the beard, thus exposing the face of his uncle. That surely ruined Christmas morning.
• Canada
8 Dec 07
SO you mean to tell us all that you don't tell little white lies???? I highly doubt you have never told one even if you won't admit it. Everyone does at some point in their lives. Who is it hurting to give you kids something to believe in insted of being so darn serious their whole life? People who spoil the holiday for their kids are just mean. They will see all the other kids talk about it and wonder hmmm my mom tells me he doesn't exist but why do the other kids get presents from him? Am I not special enough? How cruel is that??? from a young age kids don't understand things like that geesh. I could under stand if they were around 5 and really understood it but they don't and their teachers are going to push it on them in school because they won't want your kids telling the other kids that he doesn't exist. That would spoil it for so many kids and is very wrong.
@AmbiePam (85498)
• United States
7 Dec 07
I don't have any kids, but my parents never told me there was a Santa. They thought the same as you. If you lie to them about that, a child might be suspicious about what else a parent could lie about. How could they be sure parents were telling the truth when Santa would be one of the first lies told? Now my sister and I were told not to tell any other children, and we didn't. We didn't go around spoiling anyone's fun, and I don't think any child should. But I actually think it is better to know the truth, because children will know who to be grateful to, and who works so hard to bring them things they want. And Santa might take away the real reason for the season as well. Now anyone reading this, I'm not condemning anyone for telling their children there is a Santa. That is a choice, and it's not a big deal to me. This just happens to be my own opinion.
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
7 Dec 07
It is just a childhood fantasy of imagination. Everyone forgets that when they do get old enough to know he is not real, they are also old enough to understand why they "belived" in him in the first place. Throw in how much a parent portrays santa in their lives. If it is just a simply thing around christmas time, they wont get so attached, but if Santa is played up as a huge friend, etc, that might cause a problem. To think that they'd think you lied to them, I think that is taking it a bit far. All you have to do is tell them you wern't lying, just playing the game that goes along with the season.
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• United States
7 Dec 07
What's wrong with a child believing in Santa? I believed in Santa when I was little, this did not make me distrustful of my parents or any other adult that mentioned or spoke of him to me. I do feel that one should be honest with their children about a good many things, but I don't see it necessary to rob them of a perfectly harmless story that gives them joy. Everyone I have ever known believed in Santa when they were little and none of them ever became distrustful of their parents or wondered if everything their parents told them was a lie because of that. I'm sorry but I think you are over-reacting.
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7 Dec 07
If I ever have kids, I plan to tell them about Saint Nikolas, the original "Santa". I will tell them about the wonder world of imagination and the idea of the spirit of Christmas, including the tradition of Santa Claus.
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