what was GOD doing before he created the WORLD? hmm...

Canada
December 25, 2007 9:28am CST
I wonder what god was doing before he created the world.. sitting around, twiddling his thumbs?
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@urbandekay (18308)
1 Jan 08
As a side point, it is worth noting here, that, strictly speaking, for a photon there is no time. This is really a question about the nature of time, which Seoguy expounds eloquently upon but a little more can be said. Consider, from the photon's point of view no time exists between it start and the end of the universe. all the best urban
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• Canada
2 Jan 08
i dont talk about things i have no idea about, and i dont think you should either, or else u just look stupid.
@SEOGUY (906)
• United States
2 Jan 08
ha ha ha ! Well said Urban, I never thought about the photon. Light/energy that has a beginning but has no knowlege of it's beginning, and has no end as it travles eternity. What is time to something eternal? I guess if some one belives in God , we are suposed to be ignorent of scientific realities?
• Canada
2 Jan 08
guys, photons travel through the fourth dimension.. wtf are u two arguing about.. i mean, if you guys really think standing behind your strawmen is going to save you from logic, you are mistaken.
@SEOGUY (906)
• United States
25 Dec 07
Befor creating the world? This will be hard to explain this concept of eternity, but here goes. In the beginning was the beginning. Time can only exist in a phiscal universe, So in the beginning when God Created the heavens and the earth well there was no-thing befor it. The concept of God outside of creation has three words, and a very difficult concept to convey from the hebrews, It would be three words going up in steps of understanding, they are Ain (ah-een), ain sof (ah-een sof), and ain sof aur (ah-een sof or), best understood as best as, no-thing. - without end or limitless, -Light without end, or limitetless light. Before creation all there was was God, the "Ain Sof Aur" So to creat a phisical universe he had to first linit himself so he began by restricting himself, the "Ain Sof" and finely within the limitless infinity of Ain Sof furthe restricted himself to Ain, No-Thing. He created a hollow of Nothingness that we call the universe, so he yes lives in the univers that we live in, it is the second heaven. Now time began as he put his light in to the universe and scatered the light with his fingers, and thus the universe and time began, so before time what God was doing can only be called existing, no time just eternity present, now for us we ca only see eternity past and future, he lives though in eternity present, seeing time not as three demintional as we do past, resent and future. He sees tim as a drawn line on a peace of paper, he sees the beginning and end of time at the same time. So he was not doing anything becouse at the time he created everything till now not one second has passed with him.
• India
25 Dec 07
what an explaination!!! good job. there is nothing like before and after for him.he created what he created,and there was nothing b4 what he created.he is/was not depended on anythin.he did not created the creation from something that was before,but there was nothing else him and he created everything.and there shell be nothing except him.present and pass is all the same for him like what you suggested a line drawn on a piece of paper.he is the creater of the time how can time judge him.
@SEOGUY (906)
• United States
25 Dec 07
Thank you and exactly as you have said, he was is and wel be al that aver is, and all thing are in him for all things were crated by him.
• Canada
27 Dec 07
hahahah 1 person says some BS and another one agrees with him hahaha
@Mitraa (3187)
• India
26 Dec 07
May be... Before creating this world, God may have done a very good planning and research, I think. I may say, "Please ask your God about this and you will find the real answer. Thanks.
• Canada
27 Dec 07
again, god already knew about it so he wouldnt think or plan it, he would have already known
@Adoniah (7515)
• United States
27 Dec 07
G'd is knowledge.
@SEOGUY (906)
• United States
28 Dec 07
again their is no such thing as time befor creation becouse time is a product of the fiscal Universe. There was nothing for him to think about, Time only came into existance when he created the universe, there is no befor he created the univers just as there is no after. God is, He is past present and future at the same time. Not one second has passed for God before he created the Universe till now. It is empossible to say what God was doing, The question is the same as what is God doing now?
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@barehugs (8984)
• Canada
25 Dec 07
The answer to your question can be explained by the Theory of Relativity. Albert Einstein's Great theory shows that all things are relevant. When the Shuttle went to the Moon the astronauts realised there was no "up" or "down"....that these two apparent opposits were relevant. By the same token there is no "in" or "out", "here" or "there" and this brings us to "before" and "after". In your question you asked what was God doing "before". the answer is- (according to the theory of relativity) The world has always existed! And God is doing exactly as he has always done.
@SEOGUY (906)
• United States
27 Dec 07
The theory of relitivity is one of two theories, the first is special relativity and the second was general relativity, Special relativity was a theory on spacetime, Relative is meant by it is relative to ones perspective, such being the speed of light in a vacuum is the same for all observers, regardless of their relative motion or of the motion of the source of the light. Special relativity is based on two postulates which are contradictory in classical mechanics, The laws of physics are the same for all observers in uniform motion relative to one another. Some of the cosiquinses of this woul be: Time dilation: Moving clocks tick slower than an observer's "stationary" clock. Length contraction: Objects are observed to be shortened in the direction that they are moving with respect to the observer. Relativity of simultaneity: two events that appear simultaneous to an observer A will not be simultaneous to an observer B if B is moving with respect to A. Mass-energy equivalence: E = mc², energy and mass are equivalent and transmutable. It does not relate to "the earth has always existed" The firstand second laws of thermodynamics would be in effect here. The first law: The first law of thermodynamics basically states that a thermodynamic system can store or hold energy and that this internal energy is conserved. Heat is a process by which energy is added to a system from a high-temperature source, or lost to a low-temperature sink. In addition, energy may be lost by the system when it does mechanical work on its surroundings, or conversely, it may gain energy as a result of work done on it by its surroundings. The first law states that this energy is conserved: The change in the internal energy is equal to the amount added by heating minus the amount lost by doing work on the environment. The second law of thermodynamics is an axiom of thermodynamics concerning heat, entropy, and the direction in which thermodynamic processes can occur. For example, the second law implies that heat does not spontaneously flow from a cold material to a hot material, but it allows heat to flow from a hot material to a cold material. Roughly speaking, the second law says that in an isolated system, concentrated energy disperses over time, and consequently less concentrated energy is available to do useful work. Energy dispersal also means that differences in temperature, pressure, and density even out. Again roughly speaking, thermodynamic entropy is a measure of energy dispersal, and so the second law is closely connected with the concept of entropy. So to put it in a one liner, You cant get something from nothing, and everything deteriates. Evrything must have a beginning and an end. The universe had a beginning and will meet it's end as heat is lost to energy and it's surounding in an open system. Aside from the established four basic laws of thermodynamics, there is also the combined law of thermodynamics. The combined law of thermodynamics is essentially the first and second laws subsumed into the following single concise mathematical statement dE-TdS+pdV
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• Canada
28 Dec 07
NOTHING could have always existed..
@SEOGUY (906)
• United States
28 Dec 07
everything had to have a begining, Nothing has been for ever and nothing will last forever.
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@edigital (2709)
• United States
25 Dec 07
Human cannot say what was happened before the creation of himself. Example I cannot say how I was lived inside the womb of my mother - I think no human can say it. If you believe it then you will understand human cannot say it unless any information given by the creator through any divine book. In Quran I read when God created Adam He kept Adam in a room in the heaven and the Angels saw Adam and told it to Iblish (now satan) and then satan replied to the Angel that he(satan) know that God created a new creature and satan said adam was created for the worship of God but adam will not do it perfectly because he will keep busy to arrange his food to mitigate hunger, saying this satan through his saliva and with this saliva pet dog was created by God. So it can be known that before creation of Adam and sending Adam to this world, God created hell and heaven and the "Arash" where God staying and Angels who are worshipping God before human created.
• Canada
27 Dec 07
exactly, humans cannot say, so stop saying god is doing things... cuz that is a human saying it!
@Adoniah (7515)
• United States
27 Dec 07
Did you not ask what G'd was doing before He created the earth and now you say that no one should try and say what He was doing. You are an arrogant A-- but you knew that already because you consider yourself alknowing right?
• Canada
30 Dec 07
i know nothing
@Adoniah (7515)
• United States
26 Dec 07
Since G'd is not human and does not have any human attributes such as thumbs or the need to "do anything" like a human does there is no way to compare "His" existence to that of a humans. What was G'd doing before He created the world.., He was doing what pure knowledge does, He was evolving. Just as man and other creatures continue to evolve as their knowledge grows and changes albiet on a much less grand scale.
• Canada
27 Dec 07
somewhat logical answer.. so think and expand upon it. perfect beings do not need to evolve, a perfect being cannot even change! the concept of perfection is impossible.. the reason people change is because they are not perfect, and perfection is something we all strive to reach because we are all changing. if something is perfect, there is no need for it to change because it is the ultimate thing, and to change it would be to loose its previous state of perfectness. so, the idea of god being perfect within itself is kind of unreasonable if human beings exist, unless you are able to argue that perfection is also a result of imperfection, but that is hard to do and I cannot do that to prove the existence of god, could you?
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@Adoniah (7515)
• United States
27 Dec 07
Because something expands does not mean that it was imperfect. Knowledge will always expand. There will never be an end to the expansion of knowledge. That is the perfection of knowledge, the fact that it is ever increasing. That is its purity and that is why it is the definition of G'd and that is why small minds cannot grasp it.
@SEOGUY (906)
• United States
28 Dec 07
Humans have over 300 genes not found in anyother life form on earth, So why would one believe humans evolved? Their is no truth to this argument, If you were to read anciant text you would know how humans were "created" not evolved. And I am not speaking of the bible.
2 people like this
3 Jan 08
God Doesn't exist plain and simple there is no proof that God actually exists. 1. the Bible is written by man, and supposedly from the words of God though there is no proof that it's his words 2. Jesus is apparently the son of god, yet there is no proof of that or of the events that happened, you can paint all the pictures you like but paintings can have many interpretations. anymore I'll be happy to tell ya how I see it.
• Canada
4 Jan 08
thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu lol
@johndur (3043)
• Pasig, Philippines
10 Jan 08
if there is no God then who gave you life and what makes you breathing all these years?i dont think of anything that can make someone to have life even science cant do it or even explain it.
• Canada
10 Jan 08
my mother and my lungs.
@tinkutr (382)
• India
9 Jan 08
God was resting. Once he got an idea to create Man kind. After that he is running and Running. Never Rests .. lol
• Canada
10 Jan 08
Lol.. resting? from doing what? didnt he already have the idea? lol..
• United States
27 Dec 07
I believe he was creating other worlds.
@Adoniah (7515)
• United States
3 Jan 08
The other worlds are already in existence so are millions of stars and planets and comets etc.
@ssh123 (31086)
• India
23 Jan 08
probably he was planning and selecting the worst and the best guys to fill the earth.
@johndur (3043)
• Pasig, Philippines
10 Jan 08
personally i dont know.what ever he has been doing doesnt make me stop from believing on God.because if there is no GOD i dont think there would be anything that has a life.the simple life of humans cannot be duplicated by science.and so are all the people in the world including the atheist.i was just wondering,what the atheists think of who created everything?by the way,do you know what God was doing before he created the world?
@miryam (6507)
• Italy
9 Jan 08
but i dont know..maybe he was looking "lost" in tv myryam
@santuccie (3383)
• United States
2 Jan 08
For all I know, God could have done this more than once. For all I know, God Himself could have a creator. But until I know more about God (X), I won't try to answer the X2 question. Anyway, my belief in God started with a conclusion of disbelief in abiogenesis. Yes, that's right; I accepted faith in God because I thought (and still think) that the creation of even a single-celled organism is impossible, no matter how many billions or trillions of years the chemicals have to dance with each other. Until science can demonstrate how 90 proteins of right-handed amino acids can emerge from a chemical soup under any condition other than guidance, I will always shoot down abiogenesis. My faith is sustained and strengthened by interaction with a "higher power" who responds to my prayers, warns me when I'm about to miss an appointment (Call it an internal clock, but I find it hard to swallow when I've just barely caught rides this way; how could I predict that?), and bestows upon me a karma that cannot be forgotten by those who wind up on the receiving end.
• United States
28 Dec 07
I think He was working on all those galaxies that we are always "discovering".Or maybe He was just sitting around waiting for inspiration.
• Cameroon
27 Dec 07
this is the most important question and if you know any answers about it please put it in my lot
@Ravenladyj (22920)
• United States
26 Dec 07
LOL him and Satan were kicking it in the milky way gettting high on moonbeams and planning the biggest joke ever in existence which is of course us and the world we live in ;-)