statistical comparison between US higher education and religious people

Canada
January 4, 2008 11:19pm CST
now, this ofcourse isnt solid, but its funny how, according to census.gov, in 2002, about 12% of Americans have gained higher education. Coincidentally, 10% of Americans in the same year considered themselves not to be apart of any religious grouping. now, im not one to jump to conclusions, but too bad there isnt a pole that checks religion and education at the same time.. or else I would think it would be close to a 2% minority of educated religious people. so, could it be that 2% of educated religious people are representing 90% of undereducated religious people against the 10% secular and educated group? ofcourse, this isnt a very good question to ask as we cant really know if the educated people are all secular.. for all we know, all 12% could be religious (haha).. but my question is, do you think that there is a comparison between religious people and education? why are the numbers for education and for secularist groups so close? PS: mind you that out of the 90% of religious people, 78% of them are christian (protestant + catholic) and out of that population, 60% believe that the bible is the "word of god." PPS: also, a big error margin may be that these are the people who DECLARED being christian or catholic which could have been based on other issues IE: family pressure.
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@urbandekay (18278)
7 Jan 08
Further to Seoguys points, if you wanted to suggest any kind of causal connection then you would need to show similar findings in other countries. Furthermore there are plenty examples of highly intelligent and educated Christians. all the best urban
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@SEOGUY (906)
• United States
6 Jan 08
I believe that maybe there is a flaw in the census you have quoted, as a majority of people in the United States do not identify themselves with an organized religion, that does not mean however they are not religious. The majority of people in the United States are not Christians. And you are very masterful at snipping at Christians and people of faith by saying that there is no evidence of causality, but you still have implied that religious peoples can not be intelligent. Your implication is totally ignorant and fallacious. And you obviously have no shame in your outright hatred of God and people of faith. But as an American I believe in anyones right to be an ignoramus. Religious schools mostly have a higher standard of education, they are not as dumbed down like public schools are. Like wise many Christians home school their children, and for several years home schooled children have won national awards in math, science and even the national spelling bee. Students in religious schools are more likely to go to collage as they mostly are from families that can afford the tuitions and because of their higher grades, they also receive more scholarships. Many of these students go on to religious collages. Of course this does not show causation, there would have to be a separate independent study with a very large sampling to show any causality of a religious upbringing and higher education.
• Canada
7 Jan 08
ClarusVisum gave a good site
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• Canada
7 Jan 08
and im talking about higher education
@SEOGUY (906)
• United States
6 Jan 08
Furthermore there is no correlation between the two. Correlation would have to include the percentages of religious and nonreligious people to show any correlation between the two. Would any one assume a correlation with the fact that 12.8 % of Americans were black or African American? Is there a correlation here? Or Hispanics and Latinos made up 14.4% ? Or is the only true correlation to higher education wealth and the choices one makes. I could say 10% of the post I read on mylot are written by the uneducated, and then say have you noticed that nearly 10% of the posts I read are by Canadians? I have made an implication not a correlation and certainly not causality. Which I well retract right now, I do not imply people from Canada are uneducated. The only thing you have shown with your comparison of the percentages you quote is the prejudges of your thinking. It shows a coincidence of unprovable correlation.
• United States
6 Jan 08
The surprising stat is that only 12% of Americans have had higher education.Now there is secular education and then there religious education.There are many who went to religious schools and colleges. Were they counted?And just because you go to college doesn't automatically make you intelligent. And if you don't go to college doesn't make you automatically stupid.You can be religious and highly educated as you can be uneducated and nonreligious.What does one have to do with the other? There are some stupid " educated" people out there as there are some real smart people that never went to highschool. And both can be religious or atheists.
• Italy
8 Jan 08
There is a clear connection indeed: educated people are not so prone to accepting something without evidence. They are used to think in a rational way, to use their reason. Confronting any aspect of their life, educated people tend to ask QUESTIONS and seek for answers according to their reason, not to unproven dogmas or "truths" with no evidence or heavily in conflict to any reasonable evidence. That's why ignorant people are more religious: making them believe in something non-existent is easier!
@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
5 Jan 08
Okay, first of all, it's silly to take two groups that are about 10% of the population and assert that they are the same 10%. :P However, there in fact HAVE been many studies comparing theistic religiosity to intelligence and education. Check them out here: http://kspark.kaist.ac.kr/Jesus/Intelligence%20&%20religion.htm Spoiler: higher IQ and higher levels of intelligence are correlated with lower religiosity.
• Canada
5 Jan 08
hey thanks alot!
• Canada
5 Jan 08
and i did say that it doesnt correspond, but asked if you think that they did.