National ID Card On The Way!

We will have National Identity Cards here too and to be honest I support the scheme. At first I was skeptical, but I think it will bring many benefits. It will solve a lot of the problems you hear people grumbling about on a day-to-day basis - identity fraud, benefit fraud, illegal immigration etc. I personally don't care that much about illegal immigration, everyone wants a better life good luck to them, but at least I won't have to listen to everyone complaining about it. Although I'm sure they will have something else to complain about, it won't stop fuel prices rising for example. I doubt it will have any negative impact on my life personally because out of 60 million British people, I don't think I am really that interesting enough for anyone to want to monitor me. I think anyone that paranoid about being stalked by the state needs to get a grip, you really are not that special!! (I don't mean you anniepa, you are great :D) But the only people who should be paranoid are the criminals who are doing something wrong and so if that is the case then the scheme is working swimmingly. The only thing that really annoys me about it is that we will have to buy the cards. One report said that the cards will be up to £500, almost $1000. Making something like this compulsory but then saying we will have to buy them, at such an expensive price, is ridiculous. Yet too typical.

Vote for Ron Paul then. He opposes the National ID Card along with the other controlling policies of our nation.

They can try but there will be many of us that will never get this card.There are many that never travel on planes.And I think they will try to make the wrong person get this card and they will sue the government. Unless the AClU beats them to it.What happens if you don;t have this i.d.? Do they put you in jail? If so where are they going to find all this jail space? do they get deported? Where do you deport a native, a person born here for many generations? To Europe? To Africa?To Asia?And if there isn't any jail room or they won't deport people, will they put these "undocumented" people in Ghettos? If so, this sounds familiar. Poland and Eastern Europe in the 1930's.

It is an issue of freedom vs. preventing terrorism. I am not sure what is worse. Basically, if you plan on flying anywhere in the next few years, it is probably best to just go get a passport. We have time to get one before the switch happens. They are already watching our every move. Or would be if we were important enough to be watched. I think you and I are safe--what the worst that we can do? Annoy homeland security with our internet postings? *wink*

Its not just Homeland Insecurity, its also the flapping heads at Capitol Shill, and other related clowns that are driving this (with others ignoring it). Even though the chip idea has been abolished for now, I don't think thats the end of it. You are kidding yourself if you dismiss the thought. There are already enough identification practices and those are fine (well for the most part they are). Once we get into putting much more of our liberties toward supposed safety, we are really going to be paying for it (via privacy, free speech, neo-'patriotism', etc). Isn't it interesting this hasn't come up in the 'debates'? I keep saying its a one-card monte and just a show of smoke and mirrors. There are only buzz issues for attention, but real legal and societal matters: attacks on free speech, power abuse, government ineptitude: are dismissed. Other social issues with vary ties to government are not given proper consideration either (marriage values, education quality, quality of government services, budget spending, etc). This is all complete madness and I only see it getting worse from here. Maybe it'll be slow, or it could be rapid, but things are occuring, and very few even notice it let alone are able to stop it.

I would rather have a National ID Card or a Passport than some of the other options they keep tossing around. Most of my life I have had a Passport. I just let it expire because I stopped traveling. I wish now I hadn't. They have tripled in price. They are trying to force our kids to use their thumbprints to charge their lunches in school. They want to use retina identification for various things. People are getting their medical info injected into their arms in a scanable strip. Not me. They do not just put alergies and heart trouble on those strips. They put you SS# and other private info on there. Anyone with the right scanner can get that info at one of those scanner entrances to banks, schools, and security office buildings even Disney World does it now. At Disney, you have to request to go in a separate enterance to keep from having your finger print scanned. Who do they think they are anyhow? I'm not applying for a job. I'm just going for a day of supposed fun.

It does seem like a way for the government to know every move we make. That is totally scary. I do not know that this is a good thing.

I do not like the national id card idea. It seems like a way to have more red tape involved in the process and for things to become more difficult. You already have to show an id before boarding the airplane. I know it is just a driver's license or state issued id, but flying in the country, I think that works fine. Who is not to say that fake national ids will not be made either, ya know?

My income is about $1000 a month. If they expect all to have this wacky card, they would have a sliding pay scale for the slobs at the bottom of the income bracket because otherwise, we just couldn't get it. Thankfully, I will be turning 40 come April, and I am in one of the rebel states, Arizona. * As for the refusenicks, there are a whole bunch of camps that FEMA built that are standing empty but staffed all over America. * http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1062

I do not know about "Big Brother," but this sounds like a sign of the times to me. Will this be for airplane travel only? I have never travelled by plane and have no plans to now.

Well I live in one of the states that has refused to take part. I dont see where its any different than any other id. you get pulled over these days (or in days past for that matter) they run your license and there you are, and despite what one poster claims, they can see if you have warrants in other states, etc. Other than being nationalized, I really see no difference. We are not going to be restricted on traveling state to state, no checkpoints, fema camps are a myth ( I checked one out that supposedly was, pretty near to me, and its nothing more than an empty old pow camp, a tourist attraction and it's really not staffed either. I wasn't watched, wasn't hovered over by helicopters or chased off. I'm all for watching our liberties and protecting them but for Christ sakes people, get a grip.

The only thing that this really changes from what the system is capable of now,is that if you were to get stopped for say speeding, in another state, when they ran your driver lic. it would come back with a full report unlike now, where if you get stopped in pa with a texas lic, it will not show the pa cop any warrants, etc. from out of state. Also, it keeps someone that has a suspended license, from 'borrowing' say their sisters information, which you would know everything, and going and requesting a replacement license because you lost yours. It would have your picture but all your sister's information on it,and this does happen. So with the new system, your picture is in the system, and if you tried to pull this replacement scam, it wouldn't work.

I better be able to make payments on it.

I don't really know to much about the national card thing, but i am surely not going to be using it. this kind of reminds me of that movie demolition man, ever seen it? i don't want them knowing my every move that i make. guess i will be rebelling.