A really dumb Girl Scout Badge...

@foxyfire33 (10005)
United States
January 16, 2008 10:51am CST
My oldest is in Girl Scouts and she was going through her book to see what badges she could work on on her own since her leader isn't much of a leader and found one that left us both scratching our heads wondering why they would make a badge for something like this... "Couch Potato Badge". And it's exactly what it sounds like it is. To earn the badge, the girl is SUPPOSED to sit for two hours watching television (and it can't be a single movie) and then report on either the fashions of girls in the programs or the types of commercials shown during the programs! Now in an organization that is supposed to promote leadership and pride and good health among girls, doesn't this seem like a really bad "activity"?
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
16 Jan 08
This must be a very new badge or I miss it a couple of years ago..I can't believe they would promote something like that and surprised that someone is not complaining..Unfortunately you said her leader is not much of a leader, maybe that is how it got into the book, too many leaders like that..
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
16 Jan 08
The parents and helpers have pretty much taken over on a lot of things because the leader will just not do anything remotely fun with the girls. The other groups would be doing projects and she'd have my daughter's group just sitting at the table taking notes on whatever lesson she was teaching...and that wasn't a one time thing which I could understand, it was like that EVERY week.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
16 Jan 08
At the moment there are 12-15 girls in her age group. Things haven't quite settled back in yet after the holidays so I'm not sure of the exact count. And yes, their leader picks topics from the handbook and just talks about them rather than actually doing them. They girls only get badges from the big events they plan unless they do them totally on their own at home.
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• United States
16 Jan 08
How many girls are in the troop? And she has lessons? My daughters leader was fun and they did many things for badges.. As a co-leader, I helped a little, but the leader did most things. She also encouraged the girls to look and see what badge they wanted to earned and we helped them accomplish their goals..
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@uath13 (8192)
• United States
16 Jan 08
After a long day of cookie sales they needed a badge the girls could actually get. The local groups have completely wimped out. My oldest daughter was taught how to build a fire using gumdrops & pretzel sticks. How the heck do you learn how to build a fire using candy? I took her on a campout the next week & she was completely clueless. I took over ensuring she got her camping skills, she ended up being the one teaching the other girls in her troop when the leaders couldn't. When the council has become nothing but a cookie pushing franchise what do you expect to see?
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@uath13 (8192)
• United States
16 Jan 08
Here's a discussion I posted a while back about this. You might find it amusing. http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1261833.aspx
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
16 Jan 08
LOL...ours hasn't gotten quite that bad! They do take one trip to an amusement park, another one is to a ski lodge which isn't as good as it sounds. The girls got to ski OR tube but not both and spent a lot of time playing games, doing arts and crafts or enjoying the spa/heated pool area. Their other big trip is to a horse ranch. They also had cabins but from what my daughter described they weren't the nice lodge type ones...rough bunks, thin mattresses, no electric.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
16 Jan 08
Gumdrops and pretzels! LOL...at least mine did get actual campfire experience and even has a badge for cooking breakfast in a tin can over a campfire...don't ask me how, it was on their over night and I wasn't there for it. Girls Scouts does seem to be too commercialized anymore. I love the cookies but can't figure out what exactly it's suposed to be teaching them.
@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
16 Jan 08
Thats a real badge? What is up with that? When I was in scouts all the badges were for things like hiking, volunteering etc. I find that badge to be an insult to scouting and all that I thought it stood for.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
16 Jan 08
That's what I thought too! She has a lot of traditional scouting badges like skiiing, cooking, campfire building, sewing...but this one just made no sense at all. And this is for the level that goes through 6th grade so its roughly 10-12 year old girls that they WANT to watch 2 hours of tv.
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
16 Jan 08
I know a few people that work at the Girl Scout council locally and I am going to ask them about this badge, find out what they think about the badge, and why it was added.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
16 Jan 08
That's a great idea! Maybe someone "in the know" will be able to shed some light on it and explain why it could be viewed as a positive badge.
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• United States
16 Jan 08
That sounds crazy to me. It seems like they would want to teach them "good" things like you said. I don't think sitting on a couch for 2 hours straight watching tv is good for a child. I would like to know why they say they want them to earn that kind of badge.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
25 Jan 08
I was wondering that myself, it just doesn't make sense.
@youdontsay (3497)
• United States
16 Jan 08
I couldn't find that badge on the official website - http://www.girlscouts.org/program/gs_central/insignia/list/ so I'd be suspicious of the list your were given.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
16 Jan 08
Hmmm...it's right in her Girl Scout Handbook so I don't know.
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@Modestah (11179)
• United States
16 Jan 08
unbelievable, nothing like helping the kids strive to better themselves - this is so shallow an assignment, and lazy. I think it should be removed. truly it is borderline offensive, if it was not so ridiculous.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
25 Jan 08
That's what I thought too...that Girl Scouts were supposed to teach positive skills. And yes it is very ridiculous.
@Sissygrl (10912)
• Canada
16 Jan 08
Um. that is strange.. Is that like the girl scout book for all girl scouts or just her groups? I never did taht sort of thing when i was a girl, i was in brownies for a few meetings, but i found the girls there were prissy, Anyways i quit. I didn't enjoy it. The couch potato badge however seems like something i could handle but as far as promoting leadership and good health, i have NO IDEA why they would think up that badge!
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
16 Jan 08
I only have her in Girl Scouts so I don't know if it's in all the books or just her level's. It seems pretty ridiculous and completely against what scouting is supposed to stand for. Her badge about trees was super easy and hardly took any effort BUT it did have us out walking the neighborhood looking for leaves and seeds...even if she can't identify a tree by it's bark rubbing 10 years from now I bet she'll still remember us sitting under the neighbors tree looking for the perfect leaf for her album.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
16 Jan 08
I guess they had to come up with a badge for the girls who are totally unmotivated and unwilling to participate in any activity that requires physical or mental exertion. Welcome to the new politically correct Girl Scouts! Annie
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
25 Jan 08
You know, you make a very sad but good point!
@lilybug (21107)
• United States
16 Jan 08
Now, that is an easy badge to earn. Why didn't they have that kind of badge when I was in Girl Scouts? Kidding. I never earned very many badges in girl scouts. I have them around the house somewhere. We had to actually EARN a badge back then.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
16 Jan 08
I never earned many either because we actually had to EARN them too! And they were a big deal back then, we had a whole big awards ceremony and everything...and I was only a Brownie so I was a lot younger.
• United States
16 Jan 08
You have GOT to be kidding me. Really? When I get my little girl (and she gets old enough of course) I'm going to enroll her in the Future Farmers of America. Believe it or not, the daughter I have already raised learned a lot in the program and watching TV was not one of the things on the list.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
16 Jan 08
FFA does seem like a really good program, probably one of the few good ones left. A lot of kids, boys and girls, are involved in it here and they seem to be the ones out there actually doing things for the communities rather than just going door to door with the latest fundraiser like the scouts seem to have to do. This is probably going to be her last year in Girl Scouts, she hates her leader and would rather concentrate on her church activities and her music.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
16 Jan 08
Her "father's" whole family has done the same to her which is why we wanted to get her involved in positive things, Girl Scouts is just not turning out that way. She's just trying to finish out this year because she's already worked hard to earn her ski trip and horse ranch trip.
• United States
16 Jan 08
You are right. They do a ton of things for the community. Helping others makes them feel good about themselves. My daughter really needed that since my ex made her feel like crap.
@ersmommy1 (12588)
• United States
16 Jan 08
I had a bad experience with the girl scouts myself. I went to earn badges. Sell cookies whatever. But our scout leader almost without exception gave the accolades to her daughter. Yes, this seem like a pretty silly badge to earn for the sash. However, try to look at it from a different point of view. Look at it as the "OBSERVING BADGE". How observant can each girl be. I don't know. Trying to put a positive spin on a bad badge. Kinda like putting perfume on the garbage. Guess it doesn't work.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
16 Jan 08
LOL...I guess I was lucky that my mom was my leader! Calling it an "observing badge" is a positive spin but I can think of a lot of other things they could observe for two hours lol that would be more productive. I just don't understand what they were thinking when they made up that one.
@Modestah (11179)
• United States
16 Jan 08
would the girl even feel a sense of honor in displaying a "Couch Potato" badge? it is insulting.
@shymurl (2765)
• United States
16 Jan 08
My daughter wants to join the Girl Scouts. But I haven't let her because I didn't think that this town got really involved in the activities, cause I don't see or hear anyone doing much with them. The only time I see the girls is when its time to sell Girl Scout cookies. Now I hear theres a "couch potato badge". that doesn't impress me much. My daughter loves the outdoors and I want her to do things and learn things about the outdoors. I thought Girl Scouts was suppose to do that. Wow what has society come too?
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
16 Jan 08
I liked girlgonefishing's idea about FFA (see above). The fundraising for Girl Scouts has gotten out of hand, at least for my daughter's group. It's only January and they're on their FOURTH fundraiser for the year! And they were told with this one that they either had to sell a specified amount of items OR pay for their ski trip themselves.
• United States
27 Feb 08
thats a shame, I am a girl scout leader and we are always busy, trips, earning badges, planning what we want to do next, involved in the community, it is a great organization ( but it is only as good as the leader makes it ) you should talk to the local leader, the one your daughter would have and see what the troop does, if it doesn't do all you would like see if you can "help out" , then you can gear the troop towards doing stuff
@SukiSmiles (1991)
• United States
31 Jan 08
Well, I am a troop leader and I have never heard of that badge. Is it part of a requirement for a badge? I see how it could get worked into media and how media portrays girls. From there decide is the media protrays them in a positive or negative way. Maybe it's a way to show girls that they do not have to be so influenced by tv. I have never heard of an official Girl Scout badge that has only one requirement to earn the badge. Even in the lower grades they have to do at least four activities.
• United States
31 Jan 08
PS - After reading some more of the comments you have made, if you are having so much trouble with your troop leader, you should go to your Girl Scout council and make a formal complaint. I know my council would dislike the girls to be lectured to every week. They can interviene as well.
• United States
17 Apr 08
Is that a cadette or junior badge? I know I have seen it in one of the books but never really thought about it much.
• United States
17 Apr 08
ok, so I looked up some more info on this badge and it actually is a kinda cute idea. A troop made up this badge and it is trying to turn an unhealthy habit into something positive. It also might be a good way for a new cadette to get their feet wet with cadette IPs since they are much harder than junior badges.
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
16 Jan 08
You are kidding me...I can understand current events and reporting on them. But fashion and commercials. Girl scouts has really changed since I was in them.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
16 Jan 08
Yes, something like that would make sense...watch a news program for 1/2 an hour and report on it. It sure has changed!
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
25 Apr 08
I don't really see what it is teaching them. I was a Girl Scout and for the most part all of the badges deal with teaching you something. I don't know why they'd have a badge for this anyways since there are alot of kids, girls and boys both, that sit in front of the TV too much as it is. **AT PEACE WITHIN** ~~STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS~~
@lightningMD (5931)
• United States
16 Jan 08
Well I guess it's one badge every girl could earn. I know my step daughter got a birthday badge last year. When my daughter was in scouts you really had to earn badges. I hope your daughter picked a different badge to work on.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
16 Jan 08
Mine has a birthday badge too. When I was a Girl Scout (Brownies so even younger) even we had to work hard to earn badges but that was 20 years ago so I guess a lot has changed. She thinks she might do that one on a day she's home sick from school or something so she's not wasting 2 hours that she could be doing something better with.
@luvstochat (6907)
• United States
16 Jan 08
That is the dumbest badge I have ever heard of. You hear in the news all the time the complaints that are kids are becoming to obese and need to get up and exercise yet the girl scouts are encouraging letting the child sit in front of the tv for 2 hours come on people.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
16 Jan 08
Exactly! It certainly seems to be sending the wrong message to these girls who are supposed to be learning to use their brains and be active.
@wickedangel (1636)
• Dominican Republic
17 Apr 08
EEEkkkk this is horrendous, teaching a kid to do this by giving them a badge. I bet this badge was made up when TV was relatively new or that there were interesting/intelligent programmes on them?!?!? Liek you, I can't believe an organisation such as this would promote watching tv. Sounds like your daughter also needs a better leader! I certainly wouldn't consider this to be an activity that should be promoted.
• United States
16 Apr 08
Couch Potato Badge Required: How much of a couch potato are you? Evaluate how much of your life is spent in front of the TV by keeping a log for one week. At the end of the week calculate what percentage of your life is spent watching TV. Come up with a list of five other things you could do instead and try them for one week. Continue keeping a log of your TV watxhing and also record how you feel at the end of each day. At the end of the second week re-calulate your TV watching percentage, review the log, and evaulate how you feel. Do you feel better, healthier, happier? The badge has other requirements that help the girls learn healthy TV watching habits, about jobs involved with TV, commericals and the effect they have on people, etc. I came across this looking up info for my troop for turn off TV week. I had never heard of this badge, but wanted to clarify the reason for the badge. While it may not have the best name, it is not a badge for watching TV only. It's more of a way to shoe the girls what impact TV can have on them.