School Choice

@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
January 21, 2008 8:20pm CST
I moved to Wisconsin 8 years ago this spring. When we told our kids' teachers we were moving to Wisconsin, they had nothing but good to say about Wisconsin Public Schools. When we got here, we were impressed. The public schools in Sheboygan were very good. We would have done a some things different, but overall, Wisconsin public schools have lived up to the reputation. Except in Milwaukee. When it comes to Milwaukee Public Schools... just picture a bottomless pit, with folks in suits throwing money down it, promising that the money will be worth it "someday". Every taxpayer in the entire state pays into MPS. They spend over $10,000 per student per year. The high schools have a truancy rate of 75% and only 45% of the freshmen will ever see a diploma with their name on it. 8 years ago I started to hear about the problems there. 8 years later we're hearing the same pathetic, ignorant excuses from the "educators" there... "We just need more money". There are choices in this state. Programs so kids from poorer families aren't locked into failing schools run by mindless "administrators" who have no idea what they are doing. There are charter schools, a school voucher system, homeschooling and even an online school. All have a much better record of teaching kids than the rathole that is MPS. So what's the problem? The problem is, we have a governor who is bought and paid for by the Teachers' Union. A union that would rather watch another generation of kids rot on the vine than expect any kind of standard from the teachers. A union that cares far more about how much money they can get from the state than how many kids can get an education. The teachers' union does everything they can to put an end to School Choice. If they win, every kid in Milwaukee loses... and loses big.
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@mkirby624 (1598)
• United States
22 Jan 08
However, teachers cant do it all. Somehow, some way, parents HAVE to be held responsible. Where did the kids get their nonchalant attitude about school? I grew up being told that school was the most important thing in my life and being encouraged by my parents, who demanded that I do well in school. These kids don't have anyone at home telling them that, so there is only so much that a teacher, who only has the student for 45 minutes, can do.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
22 Jan 08
True, but how does more money change parents? I noticed something in college. You really couldn't tell the students who made straight A's in high school from the ones who barely did well enough for most state universities. If a high school student has goals for one of the more elite universities then yes, grades are all imporant. If not, then Cs and Bs... even the occasional D works. But MPS doesn't worry about grades at all. They merely pass kids from one class to the next, until they drop out or graduate. They once bragged that 3 of 5 kids can read at a 3rd grade level! That was their big "improvement" for the last 8 years.
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• United States
22 Jan 08
Concerning this throwing more money at a school that is doing poorly, my Dad made an astute observation. He noticed that in school districts where this happens the money is mostly spent giving raises to the teachers who were doing their jobs poorly and thus causing the school to be substandard. My Dad's observation? "Giving the same incompetent teachers who are not doing their jobs more money will not make a school better!". Wow, how obvious, simple, and true is that? Want better schools? Fire some of the deadwood teachers holding students down from an inability to teach or inspire anyone to learn.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
22 Jan 08
I'm sure there are many teachers at MPS that would love to actually get to do their job. The problem is, they aren't allowed to.
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• United States
22 Jan 08
Okay, you would be refering to the instances where incompetant administrators place restrictions in the way of good teachers because they are intimidated by anyone who is competant. Yeah, I've seen that, too. You are right that school choice is the best solution here. Competition would have the best chance to straighten things out.
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@soccermom (3198)
• United States
23 Jan 08
I can understand your frustration Para. I live in Rockford, IL where we just went back to "neighborhood schools" this year. There had been a lawsuit years back saying our school district was segregated and the poorer, African American students on the west side of town weren't getting the education that the better off, white kids on the east were. So after an expensive lawsuit the district went to "school choice" where you'd better register your kid early if you wanted to get them into the school of your choice. The transportation costs of this alone were staggering. What nobody from either side of the fence seemed to realize is that the whole district needed an overhaul, this was not a white or black thing, this was an educational malfunction in our system as a whole. Then they hired an expensive school superintendent who had never even lived in our community to help "fix" the problem. He took his exorbitant salary, then quit suddenly to move to a district in Florida. In the meantime we still have a terrible deficit, most of the schools are still on the state watch list and my taxes aren't getting any lower. I sent my kids to private school for a year. Then I saw how much of my property taxes were paying for a school district I wasn't even using and I said "no way", if I'm paying for it I'm using it. My kids have gotten a great education in our messed up school district. But I chalk it up to the fact that my hubby and I stay involved. We push our kids to live up to our expectations of them, and we aren't afraid to go battle it out at the schools personally if we see something that shouldn't be tolerated. Unfortunately, not every parent can do that for whatever reason. Para, honestly, I really don't know where I'm going with this. I jsut saw your discussion and needed to rant. My kids have had great teachers, but i admit most of the educators out there are overpaid for what they are doing. If they didn't have the union behind them I think we'd see a much different attitude, they may care about their jobs and the kids they teach.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
23 Jan 08
Rant Baby Rant! ;~D I agree, the attitude seems to be that teachers work for the union, not for the students or parents.
@DJ9020 (1596)
• United States
22 Jan 08
Don't know about your schools, but I have had problems with the public schools in Texas, too. They just don't seem to care about the kids at all, unless they are atheletes or cheerleaders. Despite encouraging my children and meetings with the teachers and administrators, we had no success with the school system. I finally had to home school my youngest for a year until I found a charter school that met her needs. Not that she has any learning disabilities, but she has depression and OCD. The priniciple at the public school finally told me they were not set up to educate children like her, but if she had been in a wheelchair they would have been able to make all kinds of exceptions! And this even having her registered under ADA guidelines.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
22 Jan 08
"Not set up to educate children like her"... I guess they aren't set up to teach kids who don't throw a ball or shake their butt.