Calculator versus mental calculation...

@aseretdd (13730)
Philippines
January 24, 2008 10:27pm CST
Do you still do simple addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division using only your brain... or do you depend on the calculator to give instant answers?... I remember when i was in grade school... calculators were tools are far beyond our reach... we had to do drills on multiplication, division, etc. tables almost everyday... but now... i see young kids are thought how to use calculators... and i just can't decide if that is a good thing or a bad thing... this devise for calculus, trigonometry, and the other difficult math subjects is okay... but for simple arithmetic... it is just simply crazy... I am proud to say that i can still do calculations using only my imagination with numbers... and i thank my grade school teachers for that...
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17 responses
@SViswan (12051)
• India
25 Jan 08
Math - Use your head
Schools in India still follow the same old system and kids in school aren't allowed to take the help of calculators. The first time I used a calculator was in engineering college. And the system continues. So, I usually use my head to do the simple math. I don't think it's a good trend to use the calculator early because even though the kids might know the concepts...they wouldn't work on being quick in their mind and that will affect other aspects of their studies too. I agree using a calculator might be easier...but the kids do need the practice and for their brains to do some active working. Studies have proved that if you don't keep your brains in working condition by keeping it involved in activities that make it work, one might lost out in the long run when performance counts.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
26 Jan 08
If I'm not mistaken the schools still follow the no calculators at the school level. We had to use the log tables (a book of scientific calculations)and all of us had our own copy of the little book and we were provided with a separate one during the exams which had only the log tables (the ones we had had some of the formulae that we needed to know without having to look).
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
28 Jan 08
The conservatiove schools here still follow the no calculator system... but it is sad to say the the new schools which say that learning should be fun... allow children in the elementary to use their own calculator... these schools seem to have forgotten the value of traditional education...
@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
26 Jan 08
It is good to know that your educational system still favor the old fashioned way of not using the calculator immediately... i remember that we first used this device back when i was in fourth year highschool in our trigonometry class... then again in college... thanks for the response...
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
25 Jan 08
First, I love this discussion. That said, despite my great respect for math, I've always had to work really hard at doing the calculations manually. Math is really important and really useful, so I do work at it still, doing little problems by hand with pencil and paper just to keep sharp. Why? Because it is use it or lose it as to the memorized stuff, even though I eat math theory like candy. So, yes, the machines, help, but having lived in a time when those machines where not available to the ordinary person, I don't want to be completely dependent upon them. It is a great discourtesy to students today, though, to allow them to get by without learning to compute by hand first before giving them machines.
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
25 Jan 08
I agree with you 100%... eventhough we are no longer in school... it wouldn't hurt to practise the art of mathematics using pen and paper... or just one's imagination... sometimes... when i have the time... i still open my old math notebooks and try to refresh myself with how to solve this and that or... look at certain formula that i can use in my cooking or even shopping... Math Rocks... Thanks for the response...
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@vanities (11395)
• Davao, Philippines
26 Jan 08
nope not that much anymore ..i just do some simple additions and subtraction only..i depend so much on the calculators..more convenient i guess
@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
26 Jan 08
Doing simple additions and subtactions using your own mind power or even a pen and paper... is a little enough to practice our brains... thank you very much for the response...
@aissha (2036)
• India
25 Jan 08
i used to be very bad at maths ,still may be when given mathematical problems but i'm very good at mental addition subtraction,division and multiplication ,sometimes faster than calculator,surprising isn't it.
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@aissha (2036)
• India
25 Jan 08
u won't believe but i'm really bad ,because u need to understand steps to solve a mathematical problem and i used to find them too complicated .
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
26 Jan 08
Well, i am also not that good when it comes to word problems... because that kind involves deep analysis... so you are not alone...
@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
25 Jan 08
Well if you can do mental calculations faster than a calculator... then you cannot in anyway be bad in math... i am not a genius in mathematics but i love it anyway...and i always find a way on how it can help me in my day to day life... thanks for the response...
@newfette (338)
• Canada
28 Jan 08
I am 26 years old. When I was in school we were not allowed to have calculators for our tests or for doing our school work for Math, unless it was a class about how to use the calculator to do something. Like make a graph or something. I am glad that my teachers made us do it because now I am one of the few people I know who can still do math in my own head. My friends say, oh you are so smart Amanda! But really it's not smart, it's just practice! I think teachers should remember that learning is about knowing how to do it without technology first, and then using technology as a way to increase the effectiveness of doing the work.
@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
28 Jan 08
So you are a living proof that teachers in the past did the right thing in training their students to do mental calculations rather than depend on calculators... that is very very nice... i hope teachers today are like those in the past... they might seem to be torturing us... but looking back... what they did is helping us today... thanks for the response...
@Dood_Jor (54)
• Jordan
25 Jan 08
I usually use my brain to do the simple ones, but when it comes to percentage, especially when there us a sale i have to use a calculator.
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
28 Jan 08
Thank you for the response... the percentage and certain complicated problems are what the calculator is most used for... and i think it is nice that you are not totally depended on it...
• United States
25 Jan 08
Well I use a calculator if I dont have the time to write out the math or if it woudl take to long to calculate it without paper :P.Last but not least I love math so when i can doa question i do it :).
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
25 Jan 08
Nice to know a fellow math lover here in mylot... yes, calculators are very useful especially when one is running out of time... but mental computation should always be used when time permits... thanks for the response...
@subha12 (18441)
• India
25 Jan 08
yes i do. most of the time. i try to do mentally most of the time.I like to do mental calculations.still for something difficult or lengthy i use calculators in my desktop.
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
28 Jan 08
It is okay to use the calculator for difficult or long computations... but it is nice to know that you are still using mental calculations just like most of those who responded to this discussion... thanks for the response...
• Hong Kong
25 Jan 08
I am never good at Math. I can do addition, subtraction with my brain, but other than that I would rely on a calculator. They used to not let us using calculators when I was in school and I am never a fan of math (I never did good). I am so glad that we can use calculators now!
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
25 Jan 08
Well, mathematics teachers in the past had their way of terrorising students... that is why this is quite an unpopular subject... but i think there is a change now on how the teaching of math is being approached... thanks for the response...
@dbhattji (2506)
• India
25 Jan 08
I prefer the mental math , it stimulates our brain and keeps it active.
@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
28 Jan 08
Most of those who responded to this discussion said the same thing... mental math is good for the brain as exercise... thanks for the response...
@AD11RGUY (1265)
• United States
25 Jan 08
Hear ye, hear ye! I'm definitely on your side when it comes to this! Personally, I think doing math in ones head helps keep the thinking/deductive processes lucid which helps out in "figuring" out other problems in life. The use of a calculator for me still requires a significant number of digits to be tallied in order for me to forsake pen and paper, mental or real. I still enjoy doing string addition/subtraction on paper (real). It's such a rewarding feeling to process so much mentally to the correct conclusion. But this "craftsman's pride" mindset went out with the '70s it appears, and thus using calculators to add even two one digit values, has become the norm. Deeply saddening.
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
25 Jan 08
Using calculators to solve one or two digit values show be outlawed...(joke)... but it is nice to know that there are a lot of people who believe that there is a need to sharpen our minds through mental calculations... a calculator is a great invention... but like others... this device should only be used when extremely necessary...
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@honeylore23 (1081)
• United States
4 Feb 08
When I was in my elementary years until I reach college, I didn't own calculator and my family has no calculator, I can use sometimes calculator if I can borrow from friends, but most of the time, i do it on papers and others just like adding, subtracting, multiplying and dividing, I do it sometimes mentally. there are lots of techniques where you can use your mental calculation to speed what your answer will be.
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
5 Feb 08
Well, that is so good for you... i own a lot of ordinary and scientific calculator but i only use them when necessary... most of the time i use pen and paper or only my mind... there are indeed a lot of techniques that we can use to speed up our calculating skills... we only need to practice them often... thanks for the response...
@cobalt20 (1318)
• Philippines
3 Feb 08
I use to have mental calculation especially the multiplication table because during my kindergarten days and chinese multiplication memorization. If there zeros in multiplication I only count zero and multiply it by non zeros. thats my mentality.
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
4 Feb 08
Good for you, keep it up because it will certainly exercise your brain rather than the often use of the calculator... it is good that you still remember the methods taught to you by your teacher... thanks for the response...
• Brazil
23 Feb 08
The calculator is faster but the mind is smarter.
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
25 Feb 08
You said it straight to the point... the calculator is faster... but it cannot think for itself... neither can it do problems that involve critical thinking... or simple word problems... but the mind can do much much more than the calculator... even identify the errors... thanks for the response... and welcome to mylot...
@djmarion (4898)
• Philippines
25 Jan 08
now that i finish schooling and started working i can get the luxury of using a calculator for any calculation big or small. :)
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
25 Jan 08
Finishing school really gives us the right to use devices that were once prohibited when were still studying... i am glad that you are enjoying the luxury of a calculator to the fullest... thanks for the response...
@2btrueinu (700)
• Philippines
25 Jan 08
You've said it many of children now a days are using calculator in a very simple math problem. They did not excercise their brain to solve it. Very poor I must say. With my children I did not encourage them to use one for them to learn. If try to discourge children to use calculator they will benifit to it later... As you told us thanks to your teacher. They will do the same as you. Mathematics really needs effort to learn, practice, time to get it perfectly.
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
28 Jan 08
I agree... solving math problems... even the simple ones can be considered as brain exercise... children should be encourage to use their brains and not the calculator... i think you are doing right when you discourange your children from using this device at their age... so keep it up... thanks for the response...
• United States
25 Jan 08
Calculators are wonderful. FIRST, children need to learn math without calculators. Then they'll have a background that will serve them well just in case. I was never good at math, but I know how to add, subtract, multiply and divide on paper. When I'm on mylot sometimes I need to do a little quick calculating. I'm not going to go into another room for my calculator and the one on my computer is "lost" so I get out a piece of scratch paper and do it the old fashioned way.
@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
25 Jan 08
I love mathematics and i also love calculators... in fact i have several scientific calculators at home... i used them when i was still studying for my masteral... but i think they should only be used when solving equations that involves tangents, cosines, sines, and the like... so i want to commend you for using the old fashion way... there is nothing wrong with teaching children to use that way too... thanks for the response...