Is your word a commitment?

United States
January 30, 2008 2:38pm CST
Let me describe the scenario: Last night one of my neighbors said she was going to come by for coffee this morning. She said she would be over around 9, and I said I would have the coffee on. Well, 9 came and went this morning and no neighbor. I'm beginning to think that I am the only one who shows up when I say I will. Our old neighbors used to do that all the time. They would tell us to drop by in the evening, but when we did they were always busy. We eventually took the hint and stopped going. So.... when you tell someone you are going to be there do you mean it? Is saying "we'll get together" more of a suggestion rather than a "date"?
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@kykidd (6812)
• United States
30 Jan 08
If I tell you I'll be there at 9 o'clock, I'll either show up or I'll call ahead of time and let you know. I have "friends" that do this and I find it unbelievable. I just don't understand what they are thinking. I guess they just aren't.
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• United States
30 Jan 08
It's great that you do that, ky. I don't think I could stay friends with someone that didn't for too long. In the case of my old neighbor, that's why our friendship never really took off. In the case of this new neighbor, she is moving soon so it really doesn't matter. But.... it does hurt my feelings that I sat around twiddling my thumbs, thinking she was going to come over.
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@ElicBxn (63235)
• United States
31 Jan 08
its a date for me. I'm a person of my word. If I end up not being able to go, I'll call & apologize
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@derek_a (10874)
1 Feb 08
Thank you for your response. I must apologise for the two posts here as my by browser crashed before I could finish the first one and I didn't think it had worked... Derek
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• United States
2 Feb 08
No problem on the double response. I was having trouble with myLot that day. It was only letting me into discussions about half the time, but not loading the pages the rest of the time. Very frustrating!
• United States
31 Jan 08
That seems to be the common consensus. Now I just have to figure out where to meet people in real life that are as great as my myLot friends! LOL
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@Bev1986 (1425)
• United States
4 Feb 08
Oh my, to me that is plain rude! If I tell someone I'll be someplace, then I am there, or I will call to tell them I can't make it! I would never just not show up. I have a friend who often cancels on me, so I've learned not to count on her if she does say she is coming over, or if we are going to meet someplace, I call her before I leave to make sure she's going to make it. I've come to expect that from her, which is sad... I would never do that to her.
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• United States
7 Feb 08
You seem like a very loyal friend. I'm not sure I would be able to keep hanging out with that person. I would just give up instead of going through the effort of calling to make sure she is going to make it.
@Bev1986 (1425)
• United States
7 Feb 08
I know, but we've been friends since we were in elementary school... it's one of those relationships where you have always been friends, and you know you always will be...
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• United States
10 Feb 08
Gotcha. That does make a big difference. There are just some things you have to overlook in life-long friends. I wish I had a friend that I've known since elementary school!
@Sissygrl (10912)
• Canada
30 Jan 08
If i say i'm going to be somewhere, then unless something comes up i will be there. If something does happen to come up, i for sure let the person or people know so that they dont think i have no respect for their time. After all you could be out getting osmething done if you were not waiting for them to show up!! Next time, make the date at her house!! or when your parting after you make plans, say i'll give you a ring in the morning to make sure we're still on ;) lol. that will make her/him think about it maybe. Unless they slow :P *giggles*
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@RobinJ (2501)
• Canada
30 Jan 08
I guess it is all about your idea of what commitment is, I do have to agree with you when you say when I say I will be some place I will be there. While I see others are very casual about keeping their word.As for the person who did not show and did not get in touch to either explain why or at minimum apologies I wouldn't put on the coffee until they walked through the door nor would I wait for them if something else came up. I know this sounds a bit harsh but your time is valuable to so don't let every one tread on it
• United States
30 Jan 08
That was my thought, too. I just thought maybe I was being a bit harsh, but I'm glad to see I'm not alone!
• Australia
6 Feb 08
Is your neighbour male or female? I've found men are the worst at committing to anything like that. And they have the nerve to be peeved when we worry about them. Me, if I can't make it, I call and say so, otherwise i am there.
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• Australia
11 Feb 08
Well, I suppose when they gave out the commitment gene, she missed out. I get annoyed when people do it to me, and even more so if I call them to say I'm running late and they attack me for it!
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• United States
7 Feb 08
No, this was a female. Our old neighbor who used to do this is female, too. I do know what you are saying about guys, though. For some reason they don't seem to worry about time as much as women do. If my husband says he is going fishing for an hour I've learned that that could mean anywhere from 45 minutes to about 4 hours depending on what happens at the lake! I don't know why I see that differently, though.
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@AJ1952Chats (2332)
• Anderson, Indiana
14 Feb 08
Sometimes, it seems as if a lot of things are pulling me in different directions at once, and I know it, so, these days, I usually won't give any more of a promise than to say that I'll try. Once I catch up and quit outrunning my headlights so much, I can make a more sure commitment than that. I'm known to run a little late at times--and, usually, try to keep people posted when it looks as if I'm going to--but I don't just leave people in the lurch wondering what's happened to me. Instead, if something comes up where I can't make a pre-arranged meeting, I'll call and cancel just as soon as I'm aware that this will be the case.
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• United States
16 Feb 08
That seems fair enough to me! I, too, have a lot going on. I like the promise to try to get together. That makes it clear to the other person that you are not sure which direction you will be headed that day.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
31 Jan 08
I mean it when I say I am going to be there. I've never been left in the lurch (so to speak) but people have been late. And everyone knows by now that I'm going to be ther first one there. Well, if friends generally ask me to drop in, I hardly do and always give a call before I do. But there were certain places earlier where I would drop in (now I'm too busy with a baby) and I've been welcomed. "We'll get together" (as I see it) would be more of a suggestion unless a specific day and time was set. Then, I'll be committed and be there...and if I can't, I will inform the other person.
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• United States
31 Jan 08
"We'll get together" is definitely a suggestion rather than a date.
@Aurone (4755)
• United States
1 Feb 08
If I tell you I will be there at a specific time then I will either be there or I will call ahead of time. I mean what I say and say what I mean. I hate it when people do that to me, say they will be there and then they aren't. People who do that aren't good neighbors or good friends.
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• United States
2 Feb 08
People who do that aren't good neighbors or good friends. I have had to come to the realization of how true this statement really is. It seems that I haven't met anyone in years that doesn't pull this. It is more and more common.
@derek_a (10874)
31 Jan 08
Yes, I feel very strongly about keeping commitments, and as a therapist this is one thing I always talk to my clients about. Keeping commitments or promises increases a sense of certainty which in turn, increases confidence. Even the smallest of promises, when broken, create minor stresses in the subconscious mind that lead to stress. I have written an article on my website if anyone is interested http://ayrehypnotherapy.com/
• United States
31 Jan 08
Thank you for sharing your article. It was great! I never thought about keeping commmitments as increasing confidence and decreasing stress before. It does make sense, though. I think about the times I tell my daughters that we will do something, then plans have to change. It does lead to stress for me as well as them. I have learned not to tell them about plans in advance unless I know for sure I can keep them. Thanks again for sharing!
@overhere (515)
• United States
1 Feb 08
Several things strike me as interesting/amusing here...... Firstly no-one who has responded has even remotely suggested that you were in the wrong feeling the way you did (and I agree with that sentiment too)so on the basis we all know people (lots infact) who adopt the approach your neighbour did does that mean the same folk a) don't belong to the likes of mylot or b) are actually too ashamed/not bothered to appear and explain themselves lol. Secondly in an age when communication is so much easier than it was in the past why do so many people become less communicative when canceling arrangements (if my opinion if a time is stated you had an arrangement)- it is almost as if it is easier to agree to something and fail to follow through than decline ( and risk offense?) in the first instance. But for me the greatest fault in behaviour such as this is that the offender is actually stating that their time is more important than yours. They had something that was more important than keeping an engagement but your time didn't matter so they not only didn't show up they didn't even bother to let you know either! Wrong Wrong Wrong whatever happened to the old school of manners and common courtesy.
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• United States
2 Feb 08
So many good points, overhere. You made me smile. I do think that there is a certain "type" of person who comes to myLot. It is great to know that I am surrounded by like-minded people and can find friends here even if I can't in real life! LOL You are right, in today's society we have more communication tools than we could have imagined even 20 years ago. Yet we seem to be communicating less and less. Sad, isn't it? I don't think people think about what the other person is experiencing. Only themselves. Old school manners and common courtesy don't seem to exist. Unless you count the people who have responded to this discussion. Let's all start an island to go live on together! :)
@chrislotz (8137)
• Canada
31 Jan 08
Well, I think your neighbour is very rude for not at least calling you to cancel. I would never do this kind of thing to anyone. If I couldn't make it I would phone. If I say to someone lets get together some time it usually means I will call when I can get together. Sometimes I just say that to be polite and I have no intentions of calling or getting together. So for me it is just a suggestion, not a date. And when someone says it to me, I don't take it too seriously either.
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• United States
2 Feb 08
I have said, "Let's get together sometime" and never really done anything to get together. I think that is pretty common and is kind of known to be a suggestion. I'm really bad at starting the ball rolling on a friendship, so I may say that then wait for the other person to make the next move.
• Philippines
1 Feb 08
talk about "word of honor." i won't even tell you what time i'm gonna be there. i'm just gonna say "yes" or "no" if i say yes, then expect me to be there. if it's no. then it is a no. i can understand if it is done once or twice -- but habitually? then that sucks. the hardest part here is the "host" (you) is the one who does all the preparation and all. in my case, i get overly excited. and i get really upset when my plans don't go the way i planned it to be.
• United States
2 Feb 08
I have a hard time making new friends and really forming strong bonds. So, like you, I get excited when someone accepts an invitation and I get upset when the plans don't go as expected. I was sad the whole day thinking there was something I had done that made the person not come over. It turns out she was just "too tired" to make it for coffee.
@rlynzz (75)
• Philippines
31 Jan 08
for me, yes, my word is a commitment. because when i say that i'll be somewhere or will call someone at a certain time, then i make sure that i'm there. that's why i hate it when people don't do the same thing because if i can do that then why can't they. or if they can't make it to the appointed time or place, then they should call and advise you and not make you wait and wait and look like a fool.
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• United States
2 Feb 08
I'm glad you bring up feeling like a fool. That's exactly how I felt. We don't have a doorbell installed as we just moved in three weeks ago and these homes didn't come with doorbells. So I purposely didn't run the vacummn or get any of my "loud" chores done so I could hear the door if she knocked. I just felt really dumb after she didn't show up.
• United States
1 Feb 08
My word is definitely a commitment. I would never leave anyone waiting. I think a lot of people today just aren't courteous. It really saddens me. A few people who I have counted on have let me down. If you say you're coming over or you're going to call, then you should do it!
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@Grandmaof2 (7579)
• Canada
31 Jan 08
Although You're considerably younger than I am you sure think the same way I do on this topic. To me it means she should have been at your door on or close to 9 o'clock. Now naturally anything can come up and there is such a thing that she was too busy, not feeling well or simply didn't feel like going to your place for coffee and that's fine too but at least take the decency to call and say so. I just don't understand why but for some reason people just don't care the same way they used to.
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• United States
31 Jan 08
I did run into the neighbor later in the day (shortly after posting this discussion), and she said that she had just been too tired to come over. I do understand that since she is getting ready to move out of state. I just don't understand why she didn't stop by and tell me that. There are about 10 steps between her front door and mine! I didn't go anywhere all morning because I thought it would be rude if she showed up and I was gone. ARGH! I don't understand why people don't seem to care the same way, either. When did it become acceptable to be so "me" oriented? Oh well, the best I can do is try to teach my daughters differently. I honestly believe that they will make a difference in this world some day.
@dlkuku (1935)
• United States
31 Jan 08
I always show up when I say I will unless something urgent comes up, then I give the person a courtesy call. I think that is the least a person could do if they can't make it.
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@derek_a (10874)
31 Jan 08
Yes, I feel very strongly about keeping commitments, and as a therapist this is one thing I always talk to my clients about. Keeping commitments or promises increases a sense of certainty which in turn, increases confidence. Even the smallest of promises, when broken, create minor stresses in the subconscious mind that lead to stress. I have written an article on my website if anyone is interested Yes, I feel very strongly about keeping commitments, and as a therapist this is one thing I always talk to my clients about. Keeping commitments or promises increases a sense of certainty which in turn, increases confidence. Even the smallest of promises, when broken, create minor stresses in the subconscious mind that lead to stress. I have written an article on my website if anyone is interested http://ayrehypnotherapy.com/CommitPower
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@miller1978 (1101)
• United States
30 Jan 08
I have to say I agree with this. I have a friend that has been telling me for the last 4 months that she is going to come by. I have yet to still see her show up. If I tell someone I am going to show up unless an emergency shows up, but then I am polite enough to at least give them a call. It's rude.
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