Palate expander and braces

Palate Expander - View of palate with expander in place
@Bev1986 (1425)
United States
February 7, 2008 8:48am CST
Anyone's child have the palate expander put in their mouth before they got braces? My poor 14 year old daughter had to have one put in on Tuesday. It's to widen her upper jaw because the roof of her mouth is very narrow making her teeth kind of sink in on the sides. This sucker hurts! Every day I have to use a little key and turn it to expand the roof of her mouth! You can see what it looks like in the picture below. It makes her lisp very badly because of all the metal on the roof of her mouth! But they say she'll get used to it and be okay in a few weeks. She's having a lot of trouble eating too because it's so hard to swallow. Try swallowing without having your tongue touch the roof of your mouth! lol! Anyway, just curious if anyone's child had or has one of these and if you can share any tips with us...
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
7 Feb 08
I didn't have this but my husband did. He said it was the worse thing he has ever been through. The turn of that key broke the roof of his mouth every night for like 2 months and you could hear it brake! He said he would often pass out from the pain. Ugh. I don't know if having nice teeth is worth that kind of pain. I did have an un-removable retainer, which is similar except you don't have the roof of your mouth broken every night. She should be use to having the piece in her mouth within a week or so. It is all a matter of your mouth adjusting. I doubt she will ever get use to the pain though. My husband never did and he has an extremely high pain tolerance.
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@Bev1986 (1425)
• United States
7 Feb 08
Ouch!!! Well, they say with kids, the roof of the mouth has not grown shut yet, so it's not breaking it every day... it's still pliable, so it's just separating it for now. My oldest daughter has the same problem and they told us that she was too old for the expander and she'd have to have surgery to expand hers... she chose not to have it done and I can't blame her!
@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
7 Feb 08
How old is your daughter? My husband was 13-14 when he had his. I didn't know him back then so I have to go on what he said. His mom even remembers it being a horrible experience and that when she would turn the key she would hear the roof break (it would break and reset almost nightly). All the kids in his family have odd mouths, instead of being flat on the roof they dip down (inherited from his Dads side). All the kids have had braces, he was the only one with the palate expander.
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@Bev1986 (1425)
• United States
7 Feb 08
She just turned 14... I can't hear anything break and she says it's uncomfortable, but not unbearable. In fact, once it's done, the pain goes away almost immediately. However, the pressure stays there for a while...
@greatx (67)
• China
7 Feb 08
quite right.
@Bev1986 (1425)
• United States
7 Feb 08
umm, you need to say a bit more buddy if you hope to actually participate in a conversation! lol!
@Bev1986 (1425)
• United States
8 Feb 08
ohhh, okay. Thanks! I didn't mean to sound harsh with my reply. Mylot frowns upon making only one or two word answers. They want us to have conversations with each other. Thanks!
@greatx (67)
• China
7 Feb 08
I mean that U R worry about your daughter,but the matter is,if you want to do sth.,u must have some preparation,u must think about what will happen and whether it is good or not. what i think is so! Good luck to your daughter. GOD bless her!
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
8 Feb 08
Ouch! double ouch! That almost sounds like some kind of horrible torture to me and I've never heard of anything like that. I had orthodontic work on my teeth too when I was younger, but never had that contraption, and my dentist said I had a "crowded" mouth too...But instead of having something like that palate expander inserted, it was recommended that I have two teeth on top and two on the bottom extracted to make room, that way once the braces were on it closed up the gaps and aligned my teeth. Somehow, think that's the better route to go...no?
@Bev1986 (1425)
• United States
8 Feb 08
Her teeth aren't crowded, she actually has enough room for all her teeth. It's just that the roof of her mouth is very narrow... instead of her teeth going in a semi circle around her jaw from molar to molar, the back teeth are in a good place, then the next teeth lean in to her mouth from the root down, not just the teeth themselves leaning in (which braces could straighten). Her whole root and all are not in the right place... so this expander kind of pushes them out to where they need to be. You know how you can put your tongue on the roof of your mouth and rest it there? She can't. Her teeth are in the way. Her bottom jaw is in line, so her teeth are actually not even touching at all. The molars match up, and the front two teeth match up, but the others on the top are way in from the bottom teeth. Does that make sense?
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
9 Feb 08
Yup, now that you explained how her teeth actually are I can understand now why she needs that expander...how long will she have to have it though...I bet she can't wait to get the darn thing off!
16 Aug 09
Hi there, I'm 14 and I got expanders put in about 6 months ago. I was obviously very nervous because I coudln't stop thinking about how I was going to eat! The first week was very painful, and it was very difficult. I just wanted to get them off that very moment. But, you can't do anything about it and soon, I got used to it. Now I wonder how it's going to feel when I have them taken out. I get them tightened once in 2 weeks; about 3-4 turns I hope this helps because I haven't felt any severe pain at all, only in my first week It only gets anoyying when you eat something sticky or chewy But I'm 100% sure the result will be satisfying because a relative got it done from the same dentist. All it takes is patience.