WICCA as a religion.

@posham (1236)
Philippines
February 8, 2008 11:14pm CST
i'm trying to learn about the wiccan religion, anyone here who's willing to share personal experiences, views, knowledge will be greatly appreciated. thanks, guys!
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@Galena (9110)
9 Feb 08
Wicca is a religion, founded in the middle of last century, round about the 1940s, but Gerald Brosseau Gardner. it came to wider public attention in the 1950s, following the repeal of the Witchcraft act in 1951. it's a formal, initiatory tradition, that operates a system of initiation in degrees, each member being able to trace their own line of initiation back to Gardners original Coven. the rituals draw inspiration from Classical Paganism, folk Magic, Witchcraft, and from other ritual magic groups, such as The Golden Dawn, The Freemasons etc. a lot of the other ritual magic groups influences were introduced by Aleister Crowley. the original form of Wicca is known as Gardnerian Wicca. there is also Alexandrian Wicca (not accepted as Wicca by some Gardnerians) which was an offshoot founded by Alex Sanders. today a lot of modern Pagans describe themselves as Wiccans, without having been initiated into the tradition. it's fair to say their path has Wiccan influences, but it's like calling yourself a doctor after having read medical textbooks. no matter how much you know, you can't give yourself the title. it has to be formally passed on to you, by someone in a position to do so. excellent books to find out more about Wicca, are "The Triumph of the Moon" by Professor Ronald Hutton (focuses on the history and development of Wicca, among other traditions) and "The Witches Bible" by the Farrars, which basically details Alexandrian Wiccan ritual, giving a very clear idea of what happens in a Wiccan (albeit Alexandrian) Coven.
@posham (1236)
• Philippines
9 Feb 08
oh.. i'm interested in the wiccan religion but have no idea if anyone from around where i am right now practices it or if there's any group here that performs the rites to enter. so i guess official enty will not be feasible at the moment. but what about people who practice christianity but hasn't been to a priest for baptism? will they not be called christians as well? i'm just really curious about it.. i appreciate the replies..
@Galena (9110)
10 Feb 08
you can be a Pagan, or Witch without initiation. just as Wicca is an initiatory tradition, it requires initiation. you can beleive what Wiccans beleive, and do what Wiccans do. just not take the name without initiation. but that doesn't really matter. nothing wrong with being a Pagan. which is what you would be with the beleifs and practices of Wicca, whether as an initiated Wiccan or not.
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• United States
9 Feb 08
wow thanks for the informational response. i too have no one around who is wicca, so i can't really iniate myself. lol but i'll check out the books! thanks.
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
11 Feb 08
Wicca is a pretty controversial thing. As Galena mentioned, technically it's an initiatory religion. However, I'd guess that 90% of the people I know who call themselves Wiccan haven't been initiated, and therefore technically shouldn't be using that name. So many of the books that are written about Wicca aren't even written by people who were initiated by someone with the status to do so, and many of the popular "Wiccan" authors advocate or teach self-initiation. So it's a complicated issue, trying to sort out who really is or isn't Wiccan, and who has the right to use that name. I'm not a Wiccan myself, but I am pagan. Many of my beliefs line up with those of Wiccans, and I find myself practicing with them quite often, simply because people calling themselves Wiccan (rightfully so or otherwise) comprise most of the pagan community. I think it's because it's the easiest of the various pagan traditions to get information about, as well as seeming friendly and harmless because of the well-known Wiccan Rede. A lot of the pagans of other traditions I know started out learning about Wicca and then went on to learn about other pagan traditions later, usually searching for the roots of various Wiccan practices. Since Wicca was created largely by combining practices of older paths, in a way it does make a nice jumping-off point even for people who choose not to be initiated into that particular tradition.
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@Galena (9110)
12 Feb 08
hehe. call me controversial, but I reckon what Gardner called Wicca is what we should call Wicca. being the chap behind it and everything. :D
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@posham (1236)
• Philippines
12 Feb 08
hmm, got a point there.. but maybe it all boils down on who's the authority on the subject huh? religion is really complicated. but i do believe that it is universal. maybe it would be best if i practice what i believe in and i need not worry about groups and congregation. besides, all these are convened by humans itself. i don't think the Supreme Being is affected by such. or maybe yes.. or maybe i'll never know..
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
12 Feb 08
I always learned that it was most important to find the path that worked for you and live it. ;)
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• Philippines
14 Feb 08
Wicca is a Goddess Religion..When one defines oneself as Pagan, it means she or he follows an earth or nature religion, one that sees the divine manifest in all creation. The cycles of nature are our holy days, the earth is our temple, its plants and creatures our partners and teachers. We worship a deity that is both male and female, a mother Goddess and father God, who together created all that is, was, or will be. We respect life, cherish the free will of sentient beings, and accept the sacredness of all creation. There are lots of books associated with Wicca and lots of internet articles you can read about. I am a solitary witch here in the Philippines. I have been into wicca ever since I was young. I am a white witch so you are safe with me. I have checked your profile and seen we live in the same country and I would be glad to discuss it with you. Leave me a message if you want so I can give you my ym. Blessed be..
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@posham (1236)
• Philippines
14 Feb 08
thanks.. i came accross people who has knowledge on witchcraft here in our country but few of them are into wicca (for this purpose, let's describe this religion as the one that aims to be neutral).. there's a lot here who try to use "energy" as revenge.. that's why i'm trying to learn more about it because though the dominant religion here is christianity, i don't think our church encompasses the beliefs that i have. though i'm all for most of its teachings, i don't agree in some of them.
• United States
9 Feb 08
i know that wicca came from the pagan religion which is one of the oldest religions. im only reply to this discussion becuase i too am trying to learn about wicca! so would love some imformation and how to go about practicing wicca and paganism.
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@posham (1236)
• Philippines
9 Feb 08
thanks. i think i found one site, spellsandmagic.com but i'm still trying to explore though..