suspected pro homosexual views in commercials and media
By suspenseful
@suspenseful (40193)
Canada
February 15, 2008 1:49pm CST
Are you annoyed by the pro homosexual stance taken by certain commercials, especially that Kleenex one where everyone is hugging and feeling oh so sorrowful as if they have a problem or have not seen each other for a long time, yet at the end, the only couple who show that they are married or just getting married is the homosexual couple because one man jumps in the other on's arms. Then there is the fix it shows done by two guys, that even though they do not state that they are, you rather suspect it. This is what is happening in Canada. At least in the states with the two guys driving in the Ford, they could have been easily two guys from college going on a vacation together.
So is the Canadian media trying to push it, by putting as many homosexuals in the commercials as possible to make us accept it. Do they not know that this is favoritism and that many Christians might be turning to American shows because of this. At least, they are family oriented.
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11 responses
@oscarbartoni (2581)
• United States
16 Feb 08
Do you think that if you do not see a group of people that they do not exist? Should we keep all Asian people out of TV? No we need to know that there is a group of people that ewe might not agree with but since they have not done anything illegal (maybe immoral to you)They have just as much a right to be actors or work in any other type of work. It used to be that the government would try to keep mentally challenged people in institutions but now we (or at least United States) put them in the mainstream as much as can be.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
16 Feb 08
I do not mind Asian or African people or mentally challenged people in commercials. I would prefer that the above people are Canadians or Americans first though. You did not READ what I was talking about. I was talking about that commercial where the only couple acting as if they were just married was the homosexual couple.
There was no bridegroom and a bride coming from a church and no mother watching with a Kleenex in her hand, not even a man and young lady coming from the Marriage Commissioner and you could see they were married. The only couple who showed that they were getting married was the HOMOSEXUAL couple.
And you all think that is right?
I was not talking about mentally or physically handicapped people. At least they did not cause their disabllity, they were born that way or got into a horrible accident.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
13 Apr 08
I write science fiction and fantasy, and my father was in World War II and he told me horrible stories of what went on there. One of the horrible things Hitler did was to kill the Jews. Now supposing you believe that homosexuality is due to a gene. That the person cannot help themselves. Now that has been proven wrong, but supposing all the scientist that are not Bible believers, and they are in a majority say that homosexuality is due to a gene, think of the consequences if a dictator takes over.
Parent A and Parent B have a homosexual. Therefore Parent A and B contributed the gene. Therefore the dictator says both parents must die as well as their son.
Now Parent A has brothers and sisters, and there is a good chance of them having part of the gene, and their children has as well. So all of Parent's A's relatives as well as sons and daughters will be ordered killed by this dictator.
The same scenerio would apply to Parent B.
So because of a false assumption two families and more would be wiped from the Earth. I am giving the worse possible scenerio, but would it not be easier to admit that homosexuality is caused by upbringing, and the environment and it is not set in stone?
And since it is environment, would not a homosexual who has children, try to raise them according to his orientation?
@JKostura (107)
• United States
15 Feb 08
I'm wondering if you may be reading into this a little to deeply? I don't know anything about the Canadian media but I think that tv shows as well as commericals are just trying to be a little more diverse..that's what the world is, diverse. The only thing that bothers me on tv..and im talking daytime and early evening is the fact that they can show half naked men and women (and unfortunatly its much more) on everday television.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
15 Feb 08
I am not reading in it a little too deeply, but in Canadian commercials and many shows they are trying to cater more to that end of things. For instance, it is bad enough when in American you all become Americans and we all now what someone who is Chinese looks like, so you do not have to show him speaking in an Cantonese or Manderin accent, but in Canada, even though the guy may have lived in Vancouver for years, the commercials have him speaking as if he just got off the boat from Hong Kong. But Canada unlike America is a pro Homosexual country and if there is a dispute between a homosexual and someone who holds the traditional view of marriage and family, the human rights commission favors the homosexuals and I would not be surprised that they sort of forced the CRTC to show homosexuals in a favorable light.
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@reinydawn (11643)
• United States
16 Feb 08
I wonder what would have happened if they had never had black people in commercials? I guess we'd still think there was something "wrong" about them too???
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@reinydawn (11643)
• United States
17 Feb 08
I suspect that that verse only applies to "straight" children? Or are homosexual children included in "they are precious in his sight, Jesus loves the little children of the world."?
The point I was trying to make is that hate is hate, no matter what person it's directed at. Many people - Christians among them - have a fear of things that are different from them. Christians tend to hide behind their bible when confronted with something that makes them uncomfortable. At least that has been the case with some of the issues I have seen raised in this area.
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@reinydawn (11643)
• United States
18 Feb 08
In my original post to the discussion I was merely trying to demonstrate that when someone is different some of us try to keep it under wraps. I wasn't really thinking "race", but "different". I could have just as easily said "divorced" because they were considered abominations also at one time. I tend to try to show people a way to think outside of the box and maybe get another perspective on things, that's basically what I was trying to do. In that way, yes I do feel that my comment was appropriate. The intent was not to turn this into a racial discussion, but rather to see a similar attitude that people had and the effects of it.
I'm not entirely sure why you think I said you hate people. Again, I was stating about the original post to the discussion. The person that posted this topic seems to have some very negative feelings (hate might be a good word in this instance) toward homosexuals. And in my experience, people who have a fear of something tend to develope very negative (and even hateful) feelings toward it. And I have known people (some of them my dear family) that have hid behind their bible to hide those feelings. I don't now if you or the orignal poster fall into that group of people, but as I said, I have had experience with people that are like that.
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@reinydawn (11643)
• United States
18 Feb 08
Oh, I hadn't read many other posts because my internet connection has been messed up so my on-line time is pretty limited (until tonight I hope!). I know people do attack others a lot in here and I wish each party would take it for the discussion it is and let it go at that. It just seems that some times everyone thinks their view is the right one and they have a hard time stepping back from that. I'm glad it looks like we're on the same page in that respect :)
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@bonbon664 (3466)
• Canada
17 Feb 08
I think you're looking for something that's not there. I don't see any blatant homosexuality in the Kleenex commercial. As far as the the two decorator guys who are gay....wow...there's a surprise, gay decorators. Who cares??!! They are good at what they do, and entertaining. Don't worry, I don't think they're trying to take over the world or anything. Live and let live, and if you look too hard for something, you'll always find it.
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@onesiobhan (1327)
• Canada
16 Feb 08
If they are trying to show a wide variety of people then homosexual couples are going to show up because homosexual couples exist.
I don't get why (some) Christians feel the need to pretend that everybody else is just like them.
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@bonbon664 (3466)
• Canada
18 Feb 08
I'm just tired being lumped together with other so called "Christians", we don't all feel that way about homosexuality.
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@Galena (9110)
•
16 Feb 08
what are you talking about?
surely adverts aim to reach a cross section of society, including the 10% that are gay. what does it matter if there's a gay couple in an advert. gay isn't an infectious disease, y'know. you won't develop it if you see someone else being gay.
or should all gay people be portrayed as pantomime baddies?
and why are you guessing at the relationship that DOESN'T EXIST between two actors playing a role in an advert.
so.
would you like the media to pretend that one in ten people don't exist, or would you like them to say, yes, they exist, but they drown puppies, and run over children for fun.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
16 Feb 08
I would have liked if they Also showed a man proposing to a woman and she dabbing her eyes with a kleenex. And 10 percent of the population is not homosexual unless by permitting homosexual couples to adopt, they are increasing the percentage.
After all if it worked in Sodom or Gomorrah, it can work now.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
15 Feb 08
Up here, they are bolder about it and it is so obvious.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
17 Feb 08
I don't understand what "special" rights or privileges gays are getting or are asking for, for that matter. If they're treated like equal members of our society I don't see how that's hurting anyone else. For those who believe it's sinful, that's certainly your right and I totally respect your right but every human being has the right to be treated equally and I thought Christians believed that right was granted by God. Gays do exist in our society so what good would it do to ignore them as if they didn't?
Annie
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@Springlady (3986)
• United States
15 Feb 08
Are you talking about that "Let it Out" commercial? I hate that commercial! I don't know...there is something about it that just annoys me. I mean a couch out in the middle of the street and this guy goes around asking people if they want to talk. I don't know! lol!
I'm totally against homosexuality as it is wrong in the eyes of God. I don't remember seeing the part you are talking about.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
15 Feb 08
That is near the end when one guy jumps into another's arms. It is not about hugging each other or kissing each other on the cheek. So it is obvious, and not subtle. Yes that's the commercial or as I call it the Cry baby commmercial.
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@mamasan34 (6518)
• United States
17 Feb 08
I think that media overall is being more diverse to bring in more viewers of different walks of life. I hate to say it though, if you feel that Canadian television is this way, you will be sorely disappointed with American media. The American media is much more into diversifying their commercials to appeal to the gay and lesbian communities. However, the way I see it, is if you don't like it don't watch it. They can't please everyone all of the time. We live in a very diverse culture with many people from many walks of life. That is what democracy is about, freedom of speech and life and liberty. That is what our soldiers are over in these other countries fighting for. I know you dont mean any harm to that. I find myself turning the tv off a lot more often these days because I don't agree with many things I see on there.
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
19 Feb 08
Hi suspenseful, I am also a Canadian and very proud of it. There is freedom of speech for everyone in our country and that is the way it should be everywhere. Why are you so upset that homosexuals have equal rights in this country? Live and let live, we all have a right to be here. Blessings.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
13 Apr 08
No one is born homosexual or gay. If there were, there would be a test to show that person has a different type of gene from birth. And people can change. Someone who is promisious can change to not be. If people could not change, then my sister=-in=law who was a chain smoker could not have had a chance to become a non-smoker, they would have given up on her.
so by saying a homosexual or a lesbian cannot give up their orientation you are leaving them without hope and if they also happened to suffering from chemical depression they might has well kill themselves. I find that fatalism horirble.
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
13 Apr 08
Hi again suspenseful, We live in what is probably the best country in the world. I am totally in favour of homosexuals having the same rights as others. I have been reading the Bible for nearly sixty years, and know that judging others is wrong. It appears that some would give Christians the right to treat others any way they want and not have to give any reason for their actions. Christians have always had special rights in this country, and I feel the time has come to treat everyone alike. Many Christians agree with this too. Remember to more than half the world the Bible is simply another book, and we can't expect them to be bound by its teachings. To the south of us the religious right are able to get away with things that others would be imprisoned for. I believe that some of it is still happening in Canada as well. The Mormon church, and others as well, are able to take young gay men and women and try to force them to become what they call normal, whatever that is. It is a well known fact that this cannot be done, as it's in the genes, but of course many won't accept that. Much harm has been done by these people, however justified they may feel. No one group should be allowed to force their ideas on another, and some who like to call themselves "Christians", as opposed to those who belong to other churches, have been doing that for years. All Christian Churches base their beliefs on the Bible. Strange, isn't it? Blessings.
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
14 Apr 08
Hi, No one is born a smoker, it is a habit that anyone can take up. Homosexuality is common in all the animal kingdom, and it is an inborn trait. This is also true for humans, a truly gay person cannot change. Anyone who claims to have changed, either was never gay in the first place, or is hiding the truth about himself/herself. The only reason this is still being debated is because of the strength of the fundamentalist right who insist on taking the Bible literally. Most politicians know the truth, but they also want to get re-elected. Most Christians in Canada, and they are Christian, even though many in the religious right try to claim that title strictly for themselves, understand that all scripture is not to be taken literally. Blessings.
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@ShardAerliss (1488)
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17 Feb 08
Well, I'm British so I have no idea what that commercial is (and I barely watch TV so... meh). But, honestly, I don't care. In fact, if you really wanted to go pseudo-psychoanalytical on it you could say that it is a bold statement that "Almost all divorces happen between heterosexual couples."
(please, please see the sarcasm in the above statement)
It is your prerogative to think something is 'bad' or 'immoral' and you can make the choice not to do such things. But you cannot pretend said things do not happen... well, you can try.
Lets take an example from other belief systems... I'm a demi-vegan. I only eat organic animal products. It is a strong belief for me that we should not torture our animals to get food out of them. It is not a religious belief for me personally, but for many it is; Buddhists do not eat animals, Hindus do not eat cows etc.
But do they go campaigning to get McDonald's commercials off TV? Or to force directors to not film scenes in burger bars, or of people eating steak at the dinner table?
You might think this a frivolous thing because you, personally, believe there is nothing wrong with eating God's creatures, with torturing them all their lives for your food. But, some of us think it is wrong, even if it happens everyday and it is splashed all over our TVs. What is parents wanted their children to grow up believing eating animals was bad? Would they be able to get eating meat off the TV?
The two possibly gay men in the fix it shows and shopping channels; Maybe they are just good at the job and happen to be gay. Why do you think they are a gay couple?
And as for American shows being family oriented... what TV have you been watching? I happen to enjoy House, CSI, Heroes...
Is Canada a secular country? Britain isn't. Our monarch is the head of the Church as well as the State... I'm not sure how this works in Canada... Commonwealth countries confuse me!
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
13 Apr 08
They might not be gay, but I know how our government works or rather the Liberals work. They would want a homosexual couple to work as interior decorators or cooks rather than two single men who have not found the right women yet. So with that in mind, it is more likely that the two guys who do the decorating are homosexuals.
With House, CSI these are for adults. That is why they are put in after eight pm when the young kids should be in bed and they are not pro homosexual. There are episodes when the bad guys are homosexuals, or black or white or straight, etc. It is the crime that concerns not the preference of the killer. I have seen one episode in whatever show where the killer was a homosexual. But if you watch Law and Order, it seems that they have lost sight of the fact that they are about crime and justice not about changing the social agenda.
