Do You Think That Religous Discussions Should Be Avoided On MyLot?

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Australia
March 6, 2008 10:35am CST
I have noticed that a lot of people bring up religion on MyLot and I think more often than not, this leads to arguments. I'm a preacher of the bible and I go door to door. However, I try to avoid religous discussions on here because I noticed there is never anything settled when debating religion and there is never an end to discussions of this nature, unless you completely quit going to that discussion. It tends to just stress me out. If there was any two discussions that my parents always told me never to get on with people, it would be religion and politics. Of course, now that I'm a door to door preacher, that's kind of hard to avoid. However, I feel that when I'm on here it's kind of hard to have a proper discussion because there are so many diffrent views and opinions and more often than not people tend to rip apart the beliefs of others because there is just not enough time to have a proper discussion on the matter. So, I tend to just skip over anything of religous nature on MyLot. I think that a lot of people today say they have an open mind but when it comes down to it, they tend to shut out what others say and any valid arguments that they may bring up. That makes things frustrating for all involved....How do you all feel people posting religous discussions on MyLot? ***PLEASE, let's not argue but only state how we feel in regards to the posting of religous matters here on MYLOT. Thank You!***
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• Canada
6 Mar 08
I don't think it's appropriate to think that any kind of discussion should be avoided on a public forum. As long as the titles (subjects, headlines, whatever you want to call them) are clear, and people KNOW what the discussion is about, they can choose to participate or avoid, as they see fit.
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• Australia
6 Mar 08
Well said, they can always do what I do and avoid them...I just wanted to hear others opinions on this topic...
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@gfreedom (22)
• Singapore
6 Mar 08
like what you have say everyone have different point of view and misunderstanding will happen when we dont understand each other religion well enough(or at least have some understanding) But if we look from a good point of view, we can talk about each other religion and get to know them better
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• Australia
6 Mar 08
Yes but I have noticed that a lot of times people today don't tend to think rationally. All they think about is getting one over on the other. Heck, I get like this a lot and it makes me upset with myself as well. That's why I tend to avoid convos regarding religion because I don't want to offend anyone....
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• Australia
6 Mar 08
I agree with a lot of what your saying, definitely. However, the bible also speaks about those being won over without words. In a sense, being won over by the good examples of others and by the genuine love they show others. Not the love that they give because they feel that's what they have to do or because they put themselves above others. I think that as preachers, we can preach the truths in the bible but we should do so without a haughty attitude and we should not put orselves above any others. If we tell someone the truths in the bible and they clearly understand it, yet they do not want it, we should not force it on them. At that time we leave it to God to judge and take care of. Jesus humbled himself to many and though he preached without let up, he did not force ones to change, he preached to them and told forth his warnings but in the end, it was up to the individual to decide which road to take.....
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• Australia
8 Mar 08
I agree that we definitely shouldn't sugar coat it but don't assume things about me please and don't judge me because if you actually read your bible, it says that thats God's place alone. I don't want to offend anyone! I want to sway them with not only my fine example of brotherly/sisterly love but with respect, as well as knowledge. I agree with you however that we should not sugar coat any truths that are in the bible but at the same time we want to present them in and with love and not with the attitude that I have the truth and then preach it in a haughty tone. That, in my opinion, is not showing love. So, in that sense, I will say, as a preacher mind you, that I don't want to offend anyone and I will appreciate it if you don't act like I'm less of a preacher for saying so.....Have a great day!
@Myrrdin (3599)
• Canada
6 Mar 08
I love to debate, and I especially like it when the issue is controversial, not because I want to piss people off, but because it is in those issues that you get the best debates. When people are passionate about their beliefs they debate more vigorously. I personally do not often get offended by much of anything, let alone religion, however I know I have offended people in the past, it has never been intentional, but I don't back down from a debate simply because it might offend someone, especially if I can sway someone toward my own belief on whatever subject we are on.
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@Myrrdin (3599)
• Canada
6 Mar 08
personal attacks are never a good idea, and they are the lowest form of debating, that being said I have debated some true nutcases ;) Not sure if you were one of them or not ;)
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• Australia
6 Mar 08
LOL...It could be. I do PMS you know ;-) On another note, you were not the guy who called one, so I don't think so. I tend to try not to be one if I can help it because I think being rational, as well as reasonable, works best in debates. Well, in most cases anyway ;-P
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• Australia
6 Mar 08
I can understand how you feel. It is nice to have a great debate on something but when people start to get cruel and mean, I just think that that's showing their immaturity and perhaps their fear that they may be wrong. I personally hate offending people because I like people and I like sharing thoughts with them. However, I will never get why people can't show respect to others and not get vicious and evil when discussing something. Why can't you just have a heated conversation without getting mean and disrespectful? That's when I have a problem with a discussion, when people are intentionally being vindictive and start name calling. For instance, in one discussion I had made very good points on the topic and someone didn't agree with me. He posted that he could see I was a nut case and I think that when you stoop to name calling, it's just cruel and mean....
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@catbvq (364)
• Philippines
7 Mar 08
Religious discussions should not be avoided in myLot but discussion posters should avoid topics like: which is the best religion of all; or discussions criticizing religions other than theirs, but instead more on what their religion have done for them to gain spiritual maturity.
@santuccie (3384)
• United States
7 Mar 08
Well said! I've been in more than one denomination, and gotten things out of each that I didn't get out of some of the others. Ultimately, I settled with the people who made me feel the most comfortable. Rev. Rick Warren says, "A believer without a church family is an orphan." Love your God, and love your neighbor; "all the law and the prophets hang on these two commandments." (Matthew 22:40) Salute! -santuccie P.S.: Laughing at dumb jokes is still good for your health!!!
• Australia
7 Mar 08
Yes, I definitely agree.
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@coolseeds (3919)
• United States
6 Mar 08
If you don't want people to give you negative ratings then you should avoid religious discussions. You might even get some stalkers if your beliefs do not agree with theirs.
• Australia
6 Mar 08
LOL, you never know. Today, anything is possible LOL...
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@ESKARENA1 (18261)
6 Mar 08
i think if we do this then we let the loonies win. Let them hand out their negative ratings, i think freedom of expresion is much more important, dont you?
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• Australia
6 Mar 08
Yes, I agree! LOL...
@CanadaGal (4304)
• Canada
6 Mar 08
I think it's fantastic that there are religious discussions here on mylot. What is a shame is when people get so carried away with their own beliefs, and cannot see and respect the beliefs of others, that they try to impose their beliefs on others instead. To me, that is just plain wrong. Discussion is one thing, and is an important tool in learning about your own religion and others' religions. It's the fanatics that make it hard to read. For the christian fanatics out there that do this, I would like to remind you of the golden rule, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". If some of those fanatics could keep that basic principle in mind, there would be a lot more information shared, and less mud-slinging.
• Australia
6 Mar 08
I definitely agree. However, I think we are all imperfect and sometimes we feel bad and catch ourselves doing this. When I first started on here, I got myself into a debate on a religous topic regarding Rosary Beads. Looking back on it now, I feel I was being judgemental and I wasn't presenting my opinion as a person who was open minded would have. Since then, I have avoided religous topics. Keep in mind that I am not always like that when sharing my beliefs. It's just, I am as imperfect as the next person and sometimes we tend to forget ourselves and what is right and what is wrong and feel bad about it afterwards...
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• United States
7 Mar 08
You just have to learn not to let them get to you. People here are pretty much just like dealing with people we work with and interact with every day. They gossip, they back stab they thrive on drama and attention. Some are very kind, some aren't nice at all to anyone. People are always going to voice their opinion, some are better at it than others. I was also taught not to talk about religion or politics. About the only things left to talk about is someone else, yourself and/or the weather. If I can't talk about religion or politics I don't want to be here. You can only take so many "WHATS UR FAVORITE COLUR" conversations, though they do raise your little star a bit. I'm not about to air my dirty laundry, there isn't enough bandwidth for that. So I guess you have to get used to it, it's not going to go away. It's too bad you can't just make the person that irritates you go away isn't it?
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• Australia
7 Mar 08
Very well said and I agree with you completely. That's my main problem, that I let people get to me and I get hurt when someone is intentionally cruel to me and to others but you're right, that's unfortunately a part of life and I need to not let it get to me so much. Thanks, you made me smile too LOL...
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• Philippines
7 Mar 08
I have nothing against religious discussions. I think it is a very informative discussion. I am a wiccan and may be different in religion with you. I am still a Christian though and am still close with my friend up there...Sometimes people just don't react kindly to some discussions in here as I have noticed..Some seem to be very rude..This is a place wherein you can discuss anything..If people don't like the topic they should just not respond to it rather than respond and be rude. It's not very nice. Discuss away sister. I believe you can do more good in here to start with. :)
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• Australia
8 Mar 08
Thank you :-) I agree with you...
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
6 Mar 08
Heh, I love to talk about religion on mylot. And the reason is exactly because you CAN always just stop going to that discussion if you're getting annoyed with it. I've even stopped responding to specific posters on my own discussions about religion once I realized they were going to be rude instead of discussing, and it works well for me... after one or two comments that I don't reply to, people usually give up. So unless someone else jumps in and stirs things up, religious arguments are much easier to walk away from online than offline. In fact, I'd rather talk about religion on a forum than deal with someone coming to my door trying to get me to change religions. Since I have non-mainstream religious beliefs, I have a lot of problems finding people to talk to about religion offline, so I like having a wider community online where there are going to a lot of different views. I do have a few rules about my religious discussions though. I don't start discussions that attack other people's religious beliefs, only ones that talk about my own or that ask respectful questions. I don't intentionally try to offend anyone, and I typically just ignore the people who are offended by the very fact that my beliefs are different from their own.
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
6 Mar 08
Thank you. I'm glad you liked my response. As for going door to door, I didn't mean to be offensive with that remark. I am polite when someone knocks on my door offering information about their beliefs, the first few times. The problem is that where I grew up, people didn't go away when told you weren't interested, and continued to come back no matter how many times you told them you weren't interested. Nor were they polite about my own religious beliefs when I mentioned them. It bothers me because I have studied Christianity, and my choice of another religion isn't out of ignorance or lack of understanding of Christian beliefs. I get tired of having my own religious beliefs bashed too... I love having religious conversations with people who share their beliefs and then allow me to share mine, but most of the time I have found this isn't the case. When I even mention my Gods, I tend to get responses like "It's the devil in disguise!" or "You're going to HELL!" If you go door to door to talk about your beliefs but are polite about it and go away if told someone isn't interested, or allow others to talk about their beliefs as well, then that's great. :)
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• Australia
8 Mar 08
I personally, when I go to a door, I allow the others to talk about their beliefs as well. I like to hear what others have to say but not everyone is like that and we all have to remember that people are still human and they fall many times and so they are going to make mistakes. If someone does this to you, it's your right to tell them that if they are not going to hear you out and listen to what you have to say, then you would rather not hear them out. However, we should try to be respectful out of human decency. Not just you but all who is involved. However, these people go door to door to share what the bible has to say on matters and so for everything you say, they are going to show you a scripture that talks about it. So, sometimes it's not that they are not listening to what you have to say, they just want to not use their personal opinions on it but the bibles, which in the end is the only one that really counts.... I'm sorry, however, that you have met individuals that are like those that you said, who don't want to listen to you as well. It makes it bad for those who do but I promise you we are all not like that. Also, one more thing I have to say is that I have noticed that a lot more religions are going out door to these days and not just one set group. A lot of people assume that if they are going door to door, well they must be Jehovahs's Witnesses and so why do they keep coming back when I asked them politely not to and so they assume that we keep coming back to them because they have us mixed up with another group but I can tell you that if they said, You're going to hell", then it wasn't Jehovah's Witnesses because 1)we would never be so rude and disrespectful, since one of the main principals we try to stick to is "do unto others and you have done to you" and 2)We don't believe in hell as one that we go to to be punished and which burns eternally but we see it as what the bible tells us it is, which is nothing more than the common grave....
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• Australia
6 Mar 08
This was very well stated. You're right too, it's so much easier to drop conversations online than it is offline. As for your comment about people who go door to door, I don't look at it as going there to change their religion but just to share our feelings regarding the truths in the bible and how we both feel on it but if I go to a door and someone tells me immediately that they are not interested, I will respectfully say goodbye and leave them to it. However, just like the apostles and Jesus, I have an obligation to spread God's word but that doesn't mean that people have to listen. However, I think it's only showing love to ones neighbor to not be rude and mean and just tell them that you are not interested in a polite way....
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@santuccie (3384)
• United States
7 Mar 08
As it has been stated in other responses, I think it is enough to point out that no one is obligated to participate in any of the discussions here. I also agree with you when you say, as it is written, that you should not attempt to pressure your views on others, as this leads to hurt feelings and frequently causes minds to snap shut; but by all means at least offer up what you have learned. I am rather on the shy side in person, which makes it difficult for me to evangelize outside of church. I do occasionally manage to get into a religious discussion (I don't know enough about politics to discuss them, LOL) even face to face, but I find it even easier to express myself in writing than to do so orally. I attend a Presbyterian church, but tend to consider myself more of a general monotheist than a true Christian. While I lean toward the notion that the four gospels were genuine, sincere testimony, I must admit that I remain a "doubting Thomas" as to the incarnation of God. I don't outright presume, nor do I ever declare, that the Christ never walked the earth; I simply can't support it like I do the Creator when I debate biology, and share the "coincidences" I have seen and the detail that has gone into the answering of some of my prayers as my faith has grown. As it were, I don't claim to "believe" God is real. I say I "know" God is real; I have seen Him. I would like to say that I mean no offense toward you as a preacher, and would be more than happy to hear whatever you have to say about Jesus. While He purportedly said that those who believe upon seeing are still blessed, albeit less so than those who believe beforehand, I have never been satisfied with "blind faith," and have prayed to the Father for revelation. One thing I know, and part of my story of faith, is that God works through people every bit as much as He does through "magic tricks." I started attending church when I was 14, and walked in blind faith for two years. I shared this with my first pastor, and asked if he could give me "proof." He told me to start praying to God, whether or not I believed in Him, and ask Him to reveal Himself to me. During my sophomore year in high school, I made friends with a Jehovah's Witness and his family, and subscribed to the Watchtower for awhile. It was here that I first read that the spontaneous generation of right-handed amino acids, and particularly the 90-100 proteins that would likely be necessary for the first single-celled organisms to sustain themselves, would have been a mathematical absurdity, no matter how many billions or even trillions of years were alloted for this "accident" to occur. As I went on, pondering the mysteries of the universe, I became more and more aware of just how fascinated I was with phenomena such as the symbiosis between organism and plant for the "breath of life," our most basic need. I was fascinated with the mirrored symmetry of most forms of modern life, as well as the five senses (especially the complexity of the instruments which support them), the ability of humans to communicate with vocabularies of thousands of words (up to 25,000 words among the most elite scholars), the ability and instinct to procreate, and the sense of affection between mammals and a few other life forms. Sometime around age sixteen, I came to know beyond the shadow of a doubt that my prolonged dwelling in the mysterium tremendum et fascinans had transformed me forever. While I do "fear" God, in the sense that I respect Him as my Maker and my Master, and also know full well that I would choose earthly suffering any day of the week over the terrible power of His wrath; I now find myself "comfortable" with the supernatural forces around me, and would be among the last to panic in the presence of a ghost. Since the climax of my numinous experience, I have seen the most peculiar things happen. I have been snubbed or otherwise brushed aside by others, then privileged with the opportunity to amaze them with an act of compassion and/or forgiveness as soon as the very next day. In one such instance, I was shrugged off when I tried to greet a friend with a hug one Friday, then woke up six hours prior to my routine the following Saturday, got groomed and dressed, and went for a walk to "nowhere in particular," only to end up in a parking lot where I found her father's MasterCard lying on the asphalt. I have "heard" what I believe to be the voice of God, coming to me as a sudden urge to do something or go somewhere, later to find out that I had arrived in the nick of time. I cut my left hand halfway off with a radial arm saw at work on the night of December 30, 2003. I spent the next two years fighting a Worker's Comp case, also spending a year to a year-and-a-half of that period in Occupational Therapy. I had to get rides to and from the clinic three days a week for 1-hour sessions during the first six months, then five days a week for 2-hour sessions afterward until I had recovered to the fullest extent possible. I was getting rides to the clinic from a neighbor who left his house at a coinciding time for engagements of his own, who had made it clear that he could not wait for me if I was ever running late. As I recall, this started to happen at least twice or thrice in the beginning, when I was still a good deal disoriented from the trauma, until a powerful "urge" told me it was time to leave NOW. Each time, I dropped everything and ran to his house, to find him just pulling out of the driveway. I have interceded desperately for a friend 3,000 miles away who was engaged to and six weeks pregnant with the child of an idling batterer, who had just violated his probation and was serving what had previously been described as 3-4 years in state prison. My friend was both reluctant to abandon him and petrified of what would happen if she tried. But in less than two weeks, she was hit by a pickup and the fetus killed. Her finance was suddenly released with an order from the judge to move in with his father and enroll in classes. When he returned momentarily to the apartment they'd been sharing, a "calmness" (as she describes it) overtook the both of them. She stood tall and told him that too many circumstances had suddenly emerged between them, and also that a long-distance intimacy was out of the question. Rather than backhanding her, making threats, and reminding her that she had promised him "forever" (I had told her that it's not "forever" until they walk down the aisle and exchange vows), he hung his head and agreed. These things, and plenty more, have happened since I came to know my Creator. While my initial "awakening" was of the educational variety, it is my contact with the otherworldly that sustains and strengthens my faith. But I am not one ever to forget how and where it all began. To this day, I still credit my good fortune in large part to every influence I encountered in my path to faith. In my mind, every chance a person has to know/hear of God is a step closer to Him. Never should one's belief be forced upon another, but I do believe that you and I are charged to see the opportunity to share what we know, and to take it. "Unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall much be required." (Luke 12:48) What say you? -santuccie P.S.: Laughing at dumb jokes is still good for your health!!!
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@santuccie (3384)
• United States
7 Mar 08
By the way, myLot has interest icons and user rating systems for religion. If its discussion was inappropriate here, they wouldn't have made provisions for it, and it would be discouraged in the discussion guidelines. I just thought of this while primping up for choir practice tonight. :)
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• Australia
7 Mar 08
Thanks for sharing your story. I am Jehovah's Witness by the way. So, I won't say anything further because I know you have already talked with us before...Thanks again though!
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• Australia
7 Mar 08
I agree with you that laughing at dumb jokes is good for your health by the way ;-P
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• United States
7 Mar 08
I don't think that a certain subject shouldn't be talked about. I think that whatever a person is thinking or feeling should be discussed. Even if it's religion although, I will agree, that it tends to cause a lot of fighting. I think that if a person posts about a certain religion, that those who disagree should either do it in a respectable manner or avoid the topic altogether. Just because a person is a Christian doesn't make them wrong or bad. Same with Buddhists, Muslims, Atheists, Agnostics, etc. Any of these different sects...They each have the right to believe in whatever they want and just because they have faith in a certain belief does not make them wrong. Same with certain lifestyles, while living a homosexual lifestyle is frowned upon by certain religions, honestly, it is there business and their choice and not anyone's place to judge them. So if we disagree with that topic, I don't see why someone can't say "I disagree" without trying to start a fight about it? If a person DOES disagree, the person who started the post should realize that there are people out there who are going to disagree and instead of getting mad when someone doesn't see their point of view, respect the fact that each person is unique in their way of thinking and instead of fighting with someone for disagreeing, appreciate their differences. I think that's the way it should be. But of course, we are not living among a Utopian world so I guess this is never how it will be. More often than not I see people who are willing to dig their talons into another just because they have different beliefs. It honestly breaks my heart to see. Who cares if someone doesn't agree with how I feel or how I think? Isn't it their right? This is supposed to be a free country. Too bad we can't all just be civil on the matter when we are disagreeing with each other. That's the way I feel about it. Have a good day.
• United States
7 Mar 08
Thanks so much. It makes a person feel very good to hear that. I always say what it is I'm thinking and I speak honestly and from the heart. Have a great night and please, continue with the very interesting chats because this one was certainly a good one.
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• Australia
7 Mar 08
This was so well said and if I hadn't already picked someone for best responce, yours would have definitely been chosen. Excellent comment!
• Australia
8 Mar 08
Thanks, that's good to hear as well and I really appreciate it. See, this is what I like to see. Everyone getting along and sharing their views in a nice and civil matter. That's awesome and that's what makes a fulfilling discussion, I think anyway LOL...
@whywiki (6066)
• Canada
6 Mar 08
I think our freedoms in life are very important and the freedom of speech is one of the most important. Therefor I think all topics should be discussed. On the other hand I do try and avoid the topic in mylot as I find that when mentioning I'm an atheist people seem to pity me and all they want to do is pray for me. That gets the hair on the back of my neck up. Then I spew forth horrible things and everyone feels bad so I try and avoid the topic. To each there own....
@gandatwo (602)
• Australia
6 Mar 08
Lol whywiki,in a nut shell..to each his own,each has a part to play in serving the highest purpose. All is Perfect,and all is well.
• Australia
6 Mar 08
I agree, usually when people find out what my beliefs are, they take every stereo type that was ever uttered on the subject and act on it and THAT'S why I avoid certain discussions on here...
@cupid74 (11388)
• Pakistan
7 Mar 08
Hi Sissy i do agree with u and i have been told to avouid Relegious and Politic Discussion in public places as these are about Faith and Believes and people Stuck with them If u want to preach some thing, it should be gradual and smoother and by not irritating and hurting others So i would say we should avoid such discuusion in Public as well as on Public Forums like myLOT take care
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@cupid74 (11388)
• Pakistan
8 Mar 08
Hi Sissy thanks a lot for respecting opinion, and preaching is not bad but it should not be Pushy and done in a attractive manner Hi Sid, thanks for stopping by, u r right if u dont like any topic or discussion, just ignore it and go forward, in this particular topic she wanted to know if its OK or not to do relegious discuusion at my lot and i have just posted mine, not necessarily all agree to it Take care
• Australia
7 Mar 08
I can understand what your saying and I respect your opinion. I personally, feel that I am following Jesus command to preach door to door but I don't expect everyone to agree with it and to do it as well. It's a personal choice in the end...
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• Australia
8 Mar 08
First, I will address Sid, if you can walk away from a discussion here, you can do the same at the door, I personally don't see the diffrence. As for it being invasive, people have come to my door and I don't see it as that. I see it as they are doing what they were commanded by Jesus to do and which he and his apostles did as well. Would you have said what you just did to me, to Jesus? If so, I not only find you lacking in not only love and civilty but I also find you to be just an unopen and unfriendly person and for that I feel sorry for you. In my opinion, it's not taking up too much of your time to just come to the door and politely say, "I'm sorry, I'm not interested." More often than not, people will walk away when you do that and for those who don't, well, we all are imperfect and fall many times. That's a quote from the bible by the way. I don't feel like you feel like it's truly taking up too much of your time but that you just don't like people doing it, Period...Why, because you don't do it and can't understand why we do it? It's not right to judge and hate people because they are doing something that they believe in and feel that they are doing in love of their neighbor. I just feel that you are being a little too harsh in this regard.... To Cupid, I say this, you're welcome and thanks for taking the time to hear mine in a civil and peaceful manor. I really appreciate that more than you know. As you can see from Sid's example, not all will do that and so when I see someone who will, I truly appreciate their open mindedness and kindness. Also, I don't think it's right for people to be pushy at the doors as well and I am not like that when I go door to door. If I knock on a door and someone immediately says they are not interested, I will kindly thank them for their time and walk away. A lot of people I know will do this as well but you know, everyone is imperfect and sometimes people forget themselves. So, I'm sorry on behalf of those who are pushy because they make the ones who are not, look horribly bad...Thanks again!
• United States
7 Mar 08
hey all~ i don't think it is inappropriate to discuss religion on a public forum. i don't think it's much different then speaking about it going door to door...or where ever it can be done politely. i do think though, that more people should be polite about how they do it....i think if they can't be polite about it, then they should keep there mouths shut, we're here to discuss stuff, not to prove or disprove. (in fact i've see the political discussions as more harsh then the religious ones) great question though...i think it's kewl you draw lines....and since we all have different views, i can say that i honestly do respect your reasoning as to why :) cheers ~j
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• United States
8 Mar 08
hiya~ rofl....that painted quiet the picture in my mind....i truly hope u don't get punched....and yea i do understand what you mean...where your coming from etc., in fact, u know how i mentioned the political thread being somewhat volitial....well i posted in one 'thinking' that the person who started it would keep polite...i was wrong :( so it lends creedence to the risk involved w/ these topics (online or off) im just glad that theres not a closed fist reaching thru my monitor to hit me good luck....hope u don't get hit :) ~j
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• Australia
10 Mar 08
I hear ya on that last part LOL...That painted a funny picture in mind as well. That's hilarious! Thanks for making me laugh, you're awesome! :-P
• Australia
7 Mar 08
I think it's somewhat diffrent going door to door because I feel that sometimes people will be less likely to get hateful to your face than they are on the net. I'm just saying that it is more easy to get hateful with someone on the internet, when there is less likely a threat of physical violence, than at the door where punches could be thrown LOL...Just a thought however. That was a funny picture that I presented though, wasn't it? LMBO!!! Thanks so much for understanding why I do it. I think if there were more people in the world like you, it would be easier to discuss stuff like religion and politics ;-)
@Sir_bobby88 (8231)
• Singapore
23 Apr 08
Well i think as long as people don't make offensive remarks about other people relious it is ok to discuss it out here yea
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• Australia
23 Apr 08
Exactly, as long as they act like they actually love their neighbor, then I will join in but if they are being argumentive, I'm going to avoid teh discussion. Thanks for your responce!
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• United States
22 Apr 08
I think that it gets out of hand often. Sometimes people take things personally. Then it can get ugly. As to avoidance, I don't know what to say really. One person's button is varied from the next so it can get weird at best. I like to take the stance of be considerate and if it gets weird avoid the person so they aren't more upset.
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• Australia
22 Apr 08
Yeah, I think it all just depends. Some discussions I don't mind taking part in but then there are others that I can tell that I just need to avoid altogether.
• Malaysia
6 Mar 08
Shouldn't be avoided... If you are religion person, you should participate and discuss about it, not arguing about it. I think only atheist should avoid the religion discussion because they thought just don't fits with any religion at all. If you are secular individual, then you should avoid it too. For me there's nothing wrong with people seeking truth via discussion in mylot. To go door to door is rather conventional, we have better way of communication today, so go for it. regards
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• Malaysia
7 Mar 08
You know the scary place (website) to discuss religion is on YouTube. I see many religion fanatics got crazy there, give damn to another religion with satanic words, blame, prejudice, arguing whatever...whoa... I think all of them lost their mind and moral there. But discussion on Mylot is better and rather peaceful because there's no such fanatic individuals here. regards
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• Australia
7 Mar 08
Really, on YouTube? That's crazy, I didn't realize that...
• United States
6 Mar 08
Atheists can have very good points for discussions even if they are not a believer in a God as most religions are. I think that it may cause more arguments if they do not watch how they phrase things, but as far as participating in a discussion I see no harm in it.
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• United States
6 Mar 08
I myself enjoy discussing religion though I am told to avoid it by many. I think it can be very interesting learning what other people believe and how they think. I do think that it can and will cause arguments and is not meant to sway people to believe one thing or another. But it is great for people who want to learn and enjoy listening to people's opinions and expressions of beliefs. :)
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• Australia
7 Mar 08
Very good point!
• Australia
6 Mar 08
I agree, however, I think it is meant to teach, however, in the end it's up to the individual to decide what he or she believes. I'm just not too sure if this is the appropriate place to do that...
• United States
6 Mar 08
What is it that determines an appropriate places to teach/learn? I think the internet is a fantastic tool to learn or to teach as long is it is done in an appropriate way. Debating can be intriguing and can actually make you question your own beliefs causing you to be firmer in what you believe/understand. On the other hand it could also convince people to lose faith in certain things. But overall I believe it is good to question what you believe and to learn to stand firm once you have done so.
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• Philippines
23 Apr 08
mam preacher; Discussions cannot be avoided, its the reality just accept it. Even from the times of Moese to phropeths and even upto the time of Christ and the Apostles. They never, skipped any discussions about their faith/religion. If you have read already it is in the bible written in many verses; Christ discuss or even debate to Jews and Pharisees, about the teachings and doctrines, and even upto extent that Christ sued by the Jews and became one of reason why He was nailed to Cross. Even the Apostles engage in discussion/debate, defending the right Faith and teachings of Christ. Acts. 19:17 Act. 9:28 Ecclesiastes 7:27 "Behold, this have I found, saith the preacher, counting one by one, to find out the account:" ----we try to account everyones anwers to any queries, questions and discussions reagarding faith. In order to account whos telling the truth or not. rememer this mam, that the Word of God which is Truth, the more the liar tries to pretend his telling the truth The More the Word of God/Truth excels and standout among lies. So let us not stop the discussions and let the burning flame of Truth light upon to all of us, who wanted the truth. One thing important to you mam, as a preacher, you should always remember this verse: 1 Peter 3:15 "...and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meeknes and fear:" ----if your concern was really to propagate the true undefilled gospel of Christ, then the most effective medium is here (on the net). Against what you are doing Door to Door, you can reach more people here, even on the other side of the Globe. If your concern was really to spread the word of God. Im not agaist your dodr-to-door thing. But how can you fulfill the commandment of Christ in: Matthew 28:19-20 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,...... Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you...." Now, tell me can your door-to-door fulfill this verse? can this verse applied to you/sect? Im just asking not bebating with you mam, just openup your understanding a little more wider and you will clearly see what Im trying to point out to you. LAST WORDS: 2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." ----I wish and prayed that all of us whom seek God righteousness would attain therighteuosness that God wants as to be. If you want to contact me personnaly not here on MyLot, feel free to email me: alter.mail.insensatez@gmail.com insensatez_nov131998@yahoo.com Thank You! God Bless
• Australia
23 Apr 08
I'm a minister and I preach door to door on occassion and so, I don't avoid religous discussions in person and I don't always avoid them on here but when I can tell that people are just posting it to be argumentive, I avoid it, end of discussion. Thanks!
22 Apr 08
No i don't think they should be avoided at all - religion is something taht a lot of people feel strongly about - and the best debates come about when there's passion in it.
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• Australia
22 Apr 08
Ok but there's passion and there is downright rude and mean behavior and these are the discussions that I tend to avoid. You can be passionate about something without taking it too far...