fanatical atheism?

Canada
March 12, 2008 9:13pm CST
can an atheist be an extremest? atheists look at god the same as they look at hobgoblins, can you radically not believe in hobgoblins?
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@lecanis (16664)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
13 Mar 08
I think of extremists in any belief as those people who try to force their beliefs on others. Therefore, in my opinion, the atheists who are always trying to convince religious people to give up their faith are extremists, just as religious people who try to convert others are extremists. It really bothers me to be told what to believe (or what not to believe) by either group, personally.
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@santuccie (3382)
• United States
14 Mar 08
Well said, lecanis. Simple and to the point.
• India
15 Mar 08
I think it is a matter of how we try to convince others, and not whether we do or not. I think it is ok to try to convince people that such a religion is bad because it oppresses woman or that it teaches that people of certain race are inferior. I think it is important for someone to tell me or convince me if I think that people of my skin colour are inherently superior than others or that I can bomb to pieces any other people who set foot on my country. I think it is a form of extremity if I think that I don't want to be told at all of what I think of other races or women etc. I think we need to critique and dialogue and debate, but with due for the other person. If I say that I don't want to be told of anything then I also should not tell others of anything... I don't see how progress will come about then! I think humanity has reached thus far in Philosophy, Psychology, Law etc because we interact and exchange ideas... correcting and sharing each other the knowledge one has accumulated. regards, headhunter525
• India
15 Mar 08
ok :-)
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• United States
14 Mar 08
Of course you can. An extremest is just a person's who's passion has gone Way overboard so why can't there be a overzealous atheist?
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@Latrivia (2889)
• United States
13 Mar 08
In a way, yes. Theoretically, any person can become radical if they want their belief (or "disbelief" in this case) to be more - spread out. There are some who would happily watch religion and theism done away with, whether society is ready for it or not. These people who believe that the idea that God's do not exist should be forced upon others would be considered radically minded.
• Canada
13 Mar 08
lol.. i dont think i know any political leader other than putin (i think) who is an atheist.. they have little impact on the world to force anyone to do anything.
@Latrivia (2889)
• United States
13 Mar 08
Well they don't have to be a political leader, though. Sure, a political leader who thought this way could do some really bad stuff, but your still a radical if you're a complete nobody and still think this way. Technically the Islamic extremists a complete nobodies - they just think and even act radically, and therefore, are radical Muslims.
• Canada
13 Mar 08
saudis and iranians have huge power over oil.
• India
15 Mar 08
I think it is possible for an atheist to be an extremist. I think an theist has right to look at God as she does at hobgloblin. But others also have right to believe to in God as one who is real. Now who is right, who is wrong is a different matter. But I think an atheist also becomes an extremest when she shows no respect of what other people believe. "No respect " as in the sense of not thinking theist are right, but critiquing the theistic position by making caricatures... reporting theistic positions extremely incorrectly. I think making such caricature should be avoided by both though there is a critique of each other. After all through through critiquing of each other we learn and we progress... how we critique is the issue that matters!
• Canada
16 Mar 08
do you show respect to people who believe that its moral to be a martyr?
• India
17 Mar 08
I think martyr as in the sense of bombing people to pieces who are not at all related to the subject matter is really a bad idea... so I think we need to really debate. But I think respecting the person... yes I do. But the difficult thing is what do we do if we show respect to human rights and they don't... still I think we should not stoop down to their level. But what do you think? I am just sharing my opinion... it may not be the best political thought :-)
• Canada
17 Mar 08
Personally, I have no respect, or disrespect for religious people. I hate the ideology however. I think that religion is a poison, a communist ideology that inflicts the mind, replacing all logical thought with imaginative inconstancy. I think that there is no such thing as a Muslim/Christian/Jewish child, in my view, that is a brainwashed child. when you get brainwashed as a child, your brainwashed forever. that is why i have a nudge of respect for the Baha'i and Anabaptist religions as they only teach their faith to adults, seeing as they are the only ones who can accept while questioning. if religions did not inflict their wounds on children, I wouldn't hate it as much.
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@santuccie (3382)
• United States
14 Mar 08
It's more than radically "not believing," it's radically "disbelieving." Not to bust bubbles, but have you not noticed that almost all of your discussions are about religion? You talk more about it than any believer I know in myLot. If it really means nothing to you, then what are you "evangelizing" your atheistic views for? And how about these petitions to remove "God" from the pledge of allegiance? I know you're not American, but some people down here are pushing harder for this than any Jehovah's Witness would ever push for the banning of a national holiday. If they make this happen, I wait with amused skepticism to see what they intend to do about the U.S. national motto (In God We Trust), or the Declaration of Independence itself, probably the single most important document in our nation's history. Yes, atheists can be extremists, and many of them are. But in their defense, at least they don't go killing people off in a "holy war" like some people I know.
• Canada
14 Mar 08
the mylot community is very religious... every other conversation on this website turns into talking about god somehow.. i would be talking politics.. but you cant speak rationally with religious people. plus i like to piss religious people off when they find out how stupid their beliefs are..
• Canada
14 Mar 08
example: "Obama's pastor says blacks SHOULD NOT sing God Bless America" oneandonemakesix: "Somehow I don't think this is going to go over well with a lot of people and I'm sure someone will take this out of context... The whole premise of America was founded on the beliefs of God, while we are afforded the freedom of religion, I feel this has no place in a political race, and it truly makes me wonder about Obama and his motives for becoming the 'first black President', and I wonder if this is going ot hurt him in the polls." Id rather stay out of this stupidity...
@santuccie (3382)
• United States
14 Mar 08
"the mylot community is very religious... every other conversation on this website turns into talking about god somehow.. i would be talking politics.. but you cant speak rationally with religious people." --Some of your discussions are indeed about politics, but how do conversations on this Web site simply "turn" into talking about God, when you open threads with a religious topic in the first place? I'll speak rationally with you, but I will also point out the flaws in your argument as I see them. This is how we learn. "plus i like to piss religious people off when they find out how stupid their beliefs are.." --I don't have much to say about biblical hagiography, but with all the scientific evidence against abiogenesis, I personally find atheism rather short-sighted in and of itself. However, I don't find it necessary to go and "piss atheists off when they find out how stupid their views are." That's just presumptuous, rude, and frankly uncivilized. No, you initially joined myLot with something to say about religion. You saw fit to share your views unsolicited. I'm certainly not saying that you don't have this right, but I am saying that you've answered your own question. Your atheistic campaign is a fanatical one; clearly atheists can indeed be overzealous.