Do people take things to personally?
By vivasuzi
@vivasuzi (4127)
United States
March 16, 2008 10:12pm CST
After hearing James whole day about "5 people voted me out..." and his whole speech at nominations, do you think people take things in this game too personally?
Obviously everyone wants to win the game and everyone is going to do what they can to stay in the game, and sometimes that means making promises to others that they don't know if they can keep. I feel like everyone in the game lies at one point or another. No one just straight out says "first I will get you out, then you, and then you, so that me and my 2 friends can win".
Yet some people get way mad when they are lied to and then end up playing with their heart instead of their brain. I don't really think Sheila is a threat to James but James only put her up b/c she gave her word. Wait a minute... didn't Natalie also give her word she wouldn't vote for him?
So what did James rather everyone do? Would he rather Josh vote out his alliance Sharon? Would he rather Ryan put up his alliance Matt? It's the same with Chelsea, she was real mad when James went up and it mad me think... wait a minute, does she expect everyone in the house to do her will to help her get further in the game?
I think people need to stop talking about "your word" and start talking about "your brain" in this game. People who play with trust and then get mad, they deserve to go. Remeber Dr. Will? He lied to EVERYONE and yet everyone trusted him!! He WON by lying to everyone! He had a plan all along of how to get to the end. So this Honesty thing going on this season is BORING. It seems like people are getting hurt and doing the obvious (getting out those who hurt them) instead of really thinking about the path to the end.
Ok, that was a long one, so to sum it up... do you think people this season are thinking of the long run and how to make it to the end? Or instead thinking of "who hurt me this week, they must go"? A lot of them (Matt/Nat, Chelsea/James, Sharon/Josh) seem to have plans to go to the final two together, but they DON'T seem to have any plans of how they will become final two. I remember in previous seasons having people align to be final 6, final 4, etc.
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@cortjo73 (6498)
• United States
17 Mar 08
I hear ya. But, here is the thing. My hubby and I have noticed that about his cast since the beginning. They don't think about how to further their chances in the game. They do tend to go for the, "you ticked me off, your gone" strategy more than who will hinder their game in the future.
Although, James putting Ryan and Sheila up was a bit of strategy. Sheila was the one who manipulated Ryan into putting James us. She has proven that she is good at talking people into doing things that they may otherwise not do. That kind of skill needs to be squashed if it poses you a threat in the game. And, Ryan is big and strong which makes him a threat, physically as far as the physical challenges goes.
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@vivasuzi (4127)
• United States
17 Mar 08
I don't really know if Sheila truly talked Ryan into putting him up or not. I feel more like Sheila just talked to him and Ryan then said "hey, I got 2 more people on MY SIDE!" and then did what he wanted. Prior to Sheila talking to him, Ryan was under the impression that EVERYONE wanted Matt out except Natalie... after that discussion, he saw the light that Sheila and Adam were still on his side.
James still seemed way to ticked at Ryan. Would he rather have told them all "listen, I'm not putting Matt up, I'm putting James up, end of story"?? Who does that? Anyway, I wonder if he HAD said that if Chelsea would still have used the POV on herself or if she would have tried to save James instead. James doesn't seem to think that Ryan HAD to lie in order to ensure Chelsea used the POV. I know I would be ticked to get lied to, but I would also think "who can get me to the end" and not "who ticked me off".
The best strategy I think is to keep those ppl who ticked you off in your back pocket. Make them feel bad for putting you up and let them apologize and make you promises so you can use them to get further in the game. When Ryan came to talk to James, James could have turned it into "well how do I know you won't put me up again next week". By getting a promise out of Ryan, he may have had another person in his back pocket to help him get further.
I guess I would just have to lie to everyone :-D That's why I couldn't go on the show, I'm a bad liar and forgetful so I would never be able to keep my story straight.
@vivasuzi (4127)
• United States
18 Mar 08
Yeah right now Ryan and Matt are threats, however by being so outspoken I'm afraid James is making Nat, Adam and Sheila all hate him too. I feel like he could have handled it differently so that the others would still be in his back pocket. We will see what happens tonight!
@cortjo73 (6498)
• United States
17 Mar 08
LOL! I'm a bad liar too. I stumble all over my words and, I don't have a good memory either so, I would forget whom I told what! LOL!
I agree that it would have been a good idea for James to try to keep people in his back pocket. But, you also need to get people out of the game that threatens your chances of getting further in the game. And, Ryan and Matt are a threat. So, when you get a chance to get the trouble out...take it! You may never get that chance again. Big Brother Past is full of losers who had an opportunity to get danger out of the house and further themselves in the game, and they let that chance slip through their fingers and ended up paying the price by seeing the other side of that door.
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@minnie_98214 (10557)
• United States
17 Mar 08
I agree they dont seem to be playing for long term its all about revenge. But that might be the reason they were chosen this year cause it is entertaining for us is it not?
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@vivasuzi (4127)
• United States
18 Mar 08
Perhaps BB purposely picked people who are not fans of the show b/c then they knew people would be more emotional. It's true that die hard fans of the show always come on with a strategy in mind, whereas these people didn't seem to have any strategy on the first day other than "oh, she is cute! I'm going to hit on her!"
@patgalca (18181)
• Orangeville, Ontario
17 Mar 08
It has been said before that a number of people this season have never even seen the show. It is becoming more apparent every week. Those who have seen the show and are trying to play the game the way it should be played are getting scre*ed by those who don't know how to play.
I was on James' side up until tonight. I hated his attitude tonight. He looked downright mean and nasty. I am still pulling for Ryan. I don't think the group will vote Ryan out, frankly. Unfortunately Sheila will go unless one of them wins the POV.
What it boils down to is the idiots should have voted to bring Alex back in, not James. Alex knows he wasn't voted out because of him but because of Amanda. He wouldn't take it personally at all. Everybody would be lovey-dovey and all friendly and happy. But James came charging back with a vengence. Why would the houseguests think "America" would vote Allison back in????? Guess they haven't seen the show before.
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@vivasuzi (4127)
• United States
17 Mar 08
I hated his attitude to, it seemed like such an immature way of thinking as if everyone is supposed to tell the absolute truth 100% of the time or else they go home.
Well the idiots mean Natalie really. If she had voted with Matt and Ryan, there would have been 4 to 4. I don't know what BB was going to do if there was a tie! Adam voted for James too and that was dumb. I think everyone was too afraid the mystery guests was Allison and that's where BB made me mad. They should have told the HGs who won america's vote. OR they could have at least said "it's either going to be Alex or Parker" since they were top 2.
I can see why the HGs would think it was allison b/c of last season when everyone was routing for ED and Dani even though a lot of the HGs hated them... but then again, you mentioned most of them never saw the show before! Maybe the HGs were afraid America would like Allison and feel sorry for her. Oh well! They will surely be disappointed when the show is over and they watch it on tape!
@raychill (6525)
• United States
17 Mar 08
I think they definitely take things too personally. For some reason my email was sending all mylot emails to spam and mylot was being dumb so I don't know if you ever got my comment about how I read the cheat sites so I knew James would get it and I hope he didn't go back on his word to Natalie.
The only problem is that if the two people on the block win the POV... I think James will backdoor Matt, because that wasn't in his agreement with natalie.
Everyone lies. In real life and in the game. Get over it. James lied too, that's what I think is the most ridiculous thing. He told Matt he wouldn't put him up and then he put him up that one week. DUH. SO James is no Angel himself.
What they should do, THEY being Natalie, Matt, James and Chelsia is TEAM UP. They're the strongest people in the house they could make it to be the final four.
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@vivasuzi (4127)
• United States
18 Mar 08
Who knows if I got the comment or not :) I had mylot troubles this past week too!
I already know what happens with POV, but to keep things general, I'll just say that if someone does win POV, james still shouldn't put Matt or Nat on b/c for me, twisting your words is worse then lying. In the end, the person would still be "on the block" and he promised not to put them "on the block".
Everyone does lie and that is why it gets annoying when people act all hurt after being lied to! James would get further if he teamed up with Matt/Nat, but his problem is his ego I think. I believe he would rather get them out to prove "no one can mess with me" which is why I think these people do not think about the long run but only about the right now.
