Christianity...where did they go wrong??

Like I've said before, once they added politics to faith to create religion they corrupted the whole thing.

They can look in the mirror because in their hearts they really really believe they are right and no one could possibly convince them to even question their righteousness becuz they have no doubt about it. you gotta wonder how the heck people existed before the first church was ever built or the bible was ever written. The bible was actually written by a group of men...not God.

Christianity is a great idea, but there is only one problem with it, humans cannot follow it no matter how hard they attempt to. Humans and animals. Humans need to follow the laws of nature, not these laws that they think will help them. Again, the Bible can teach people morals, but what happens when it comes to saving your own life from the dangers of the real world. The Bible cannot teach you how to make a sling shot, or a bow and arrow, or a slipknot. Humans need survival skills, not just morals. Are morals going to help you when your life is on the line? No. I believe in survival, in fighting to live, I have seen too many people die because they have given up. The Bible told them that they were sinners and that they were only good if they followed God's word. Well, God helps those who help themselves. Learn how to survive first. Analyze the Bible. The Jews did not survive on the belief of God alone, no, they fought. The Egyptians were going to kill Moses and his people. Moses knew that God was on his side, but he also knew that he needed a survival plan. He had to time everyone. Read or watch "Battles of the Bible". This is a strategy book on how people in the Bible fought and lived. You can believe in God, but do not expect God to get you out of trouble. Christianity teaches people how to be humble and just, but you cannot be humble or just if your life is on the line. As for homosexuals and people who have children out of marriage, I have nothing against anyone who wants to live they way they want to, it is their choice and they can do as they please. I am not here to judge. My mother was a single mom who had my bro and I out of wedlock and she loved us more than some married women love their babies. Also, I am Agnostic and a Darwinist. I believe in survival and doing what people want and need to do because they want or need to do it.

Hi Ravenladyj, You stated, "IF it had been left to be a simple guideline for living well and right like it was meant to be would be a great path..but the self righteous, arrogant leaders of yesteryear decided way back when to go and mess things up..and look where it got them"? You go on to say, "what REALLY baffles and bothers me though is the fact that society for the most part has FORGOTTEN how to think for themselves and is at this stage in the game unable to step outside the mass snowglobe they live in and REALIZE whats been done". Your comment "IF it had been left to be a simple guideline for living well and right....", for the most part, it HAS been left for that purpose - - - for us as individuals. I'm not responsible for all those other people or their actions. I'm only responsible for my own. For me, since my relationship is a personal one, it (Christianity) has no flaws. It's the single out individuals who don't follow the 'simple truth' and those who distort it or use it for their personal gain. There's nothing wrong with Christianity. It's all how one views their life, themselves, and how badly their minds and hearts have been hardened or turned against it. It's how someone decides to interpret it for themselves, not taking the time to understand what it is really saying. While the statements made are generalized, not every person who claims to be a Christian is one. Christianity shouldn't be condemned over a few people who are no more or no less better or worse than anyone else, including you and me. I will continue to say, I am a Christian. I don't follow the generalized idea of the picture painted. I truly love what I see in the mirror. I can sit down for dinner with children knowing what choices they have made. It doesn't mean I love them any less. Some of us are 'truly loving, compassionate souls' and none of us are perfect. Sometimes we say dumb things. NONE of us are perfect, but for some of us, being a Christian is the only way we know to find what is right or wrong (for ourselves). For some of us, it beats battling what we view as the unknown, without Christianity, or possibly trying to find comfort in hugging a tree... Christianity is the best thing going (for me). If you or anyone else can find something that works better, then my suggestion is to go for it. But for anyone to condemn the whole religion and all of those who claim it, well, that seems a little judgemental to me as well as being a little confused. The quote by Serendipity fits us all, "When are you people going to learn? It's not about who's right or wrong. No denomination's nailed it yet, and they never will because they're all too self-righteous to realize that it doesn't matter what you have faith in, just that you have faith. Your hearts are in the right place, but your brains need to wake up". From this statement alone, I wonder if our hearts are in fact, in the right place. It's obivious our brains need to wake up.

Hi Ravenladyj, I love that quote, and it is really true. Jesus Christ came to show us how it should be done. Christianity as we have it today is not the religion of Jesus, but a religion set up around the man Jesus. Anyone who is willing to read about the early church will see that there were teachings that we know nothing about today. There were at least three groups fighting each other in the early church, in the end the followers of Paul or the paulines, as the were called, were the victors. Some five hundred years later, the church put together the Bible as we have it today, and any writings that they didn't agree with were destroyed. We have some of the teachings of Jesus, but certainly not all. Of course if we got rid of all that the church added, and just followed Jesus, we still have enough to make a wonderful world. Blessings.

I don't think that there is anything intrinsically wrong with christianity it is just the way that people have interpreted it over the centuries. The scriptures hold a perfectly reasonable moral code, in fact considering that the Bible is a collection of prophesies and the recollections and opinions mainly of people that weren't there, I am amazed at how consistent some of the principle tenets are. Unfortunately many so called Christians struggle to follow them and end up abusing and warping them to meet their own nefarious ends. I struggle when there is an intolerance in any religion, because I live in the West I tend to see christian intolerance more. I have often wondered how warring christian countries can in all honesty say "God is with us, and will help us win", the opponents say the same thing. They cheerfully kill in God's name but censor those that seek more pacific pastimes. If I am to be damned, then I might as well be cheerfully damned. If there is a God and he is as forgiving as it is said he is, then I shall be OK anyway. The way I look at it, is that I aim to lead my life in a non toxic way as far as possible. I don't seek to harm others, and if they harm me I try to understand why. I don't think that I am right, I just have a different view. So any would be preachers out there, I respect your views, please respect mine, that way we'll get along just fine.

Very interesting.

Christianity is following Jesus Christ. It is knowing Him personally as Lord and Savior. A Christian is a sinner saved by the grace of God...by what Jesus Christ did on the cross. True Christians are full of joy and peace all the time, no matter what the circumstances because Jesus Christ dwells within them. There is no true peace or joy without Jesus Christ. This world cannot offer it. What it offers is only temporary. What the Lord offers is eternal. I am so glad that I know the Lord Jesus! I am glad that I am forgiven of my sins and that I have the awesome assurance of Eternal Life! It is not because of anything I have done, but because of what Jesus Christ did for me! Praise God!

Your feelings are so "there" what I believe in as well. Yes, by itself, Christianity's messages and principles are beautiful, but it has been twisted around. First of all, the Bible was translated a zillion times to begin with, with a lot of the original meanings being lost in translation, then when the church decided to "edit" it, left out a lot to suit their purposes which means basically controlling people to think one way and no other way. Then look at Christianity itself...it has to be the most divided religion going or why would their be so many sects? Then of course you have people who think only THEY are going to heaven, while the rest of us are going to purgatory--gee a lot of people are going to hell aren't they? Then some think only their form of beliefs are the right ones ..then you have people who take the Bible as literal truth and believe every single word --which runs along the lines of what you're saying about people not thinking for themself but to a certain extent brainwashed I thank goodness was raised in a Christian environment where my family DIDN'T cram religion down my throat...and give thanks to my great-grandmother who was really "with" it...while I'm a follower of pagan/wiccan beliefs, I haven't completely abandoned some Christian ideals since I do like the ideas that Unity and Science of Mind has and that's what my great-grandmother was in despite being raised a strict Catholic.