ANother genius politician

@Debs_place (10520)
United States
March 21, 2008 7:30am CST
Ok, this guy wants to put a $.50 a gallon tax on gas. Supposedly this will encourage people to drive less to reduce our dependence on oil. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,339589,00.html Most of my driving is work related. Will this affect your driving habits or just your wallet?
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
22 Mar 08
Ah yea. This has "Jenius" written all over it. John Dingbat? Not him again... /facepalm Sigh... lets go over the results of something like this, once more. For one thing, people need to drive (thanks largely to how the states developed their housing and business patterns post 1950). Everything needs a car. Raising the price will just put more hurt on the consumers. It'll also raise the cost to transport the goods people need. Guess where that cost ends up? That's right, you'll be paying it...yet again. Oh and add to this the fact the dollar is still falling, so its losing worth compared to something that's gaining expense. Factor in growing costs in other sectors too (coal is up meaning energy will cost more, crops like corn and wheat are up). Pretty picture yet? -_- Here's how much Mr Dingbat fails. US gasoline consumers already pay about .40c to .50c a gallon in taxes... -_- http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp That's right, you will be paying a full dollar in gasoline taxes. Not to mention any plans the states themselves have for further taxing gasoline. Yes, the taxes go for construction projects and maintenance, but it can add up at the pump. Also, there are several plans that are not for maintenance, but simply for building new roads (uh... -_-), and building new highways/biways in more remote areas... (oy... -_- /facepalm). Consider this too. Many workplaces may have the ability to network their tasks so people can live at home, but employers refuse to do this. They cite a need for on site staff for multiple reasons. However, the technology does exist to help people work at home and meet at home (ventrilo/teamspeak, microsoft meetings). It'll take a significant increase, or something equivalently dramatic to cause more of a shift to work at home, or to shift work weeks to have less driving. So get ready to spend 4.50, 5.50, 6+ per gallon on gas. -_- Total Rating: (-7/10) Negative 7 out of 10
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
23 Mar 08
Wow, I went to that link you posted about the taxes, that is down right disgusting. You are so right, this will not change a lot for most of us, since most of our driving is work related. I wish that someone would come up with a real answer..and it is not taxes.
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
22 Mar 08
Sorry I forgot to answer the other discussion question: Needless to say, my habits won't change as much. Its really work home, so not much change. Just more paying for it. Other thoughts: Maybe I'm going about it all wrong. Seems like the President, the leaders & lawmakers, the candidates don't worry about this. How can they, the pinch this plan creates wouldn't even come up on their personal radars. So instead we have nonsense and shenanigans. We have all of these people basically in a D grade daytime opera, and at the back they all have several drinks at the end of the day. I don't know... I mean to have a smoke and mirrors effect, to have this one card monte (which I called by the way...)... its just mortifying. But maybe I shouldn't worry about it. Do like the Romans do. Maybe I'll just take a few drinks and watch as things sink further into abyss.
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@slickcut (8141)
• United States
21 Mar 08
I do not want to pay more for gas,however it will be going up and i feel the gas by the end of summer may be as high as $5.00 per gallon,i do not like it but this is just a feeling that i have...I think that if people stopped driving it might bring the prices down because personally i do not really feel there is a gas shortage,i think its just a price hike to make more money off the consumer,just another one of my thoughts...However it is NOT going to happen because people have jobs and they have to work,so therefore they have to get to their jobs...I am not sure if the people who do not work and can stop driving would make a difference..I live on a fixed income and i do not drive as much as i once did because of the price of gas,i stay home more and when i do shop i always stay close to home and do as less driving as i can,,,I don't do this to bring down gas prices because my little piddley driving would not help,i do it simply to save for me because i cannot afford the gas to run around...In a perfect world a price hike of $.50 cents might help IF people did not have to work,but they do ,so i do not see where it will do one bit of good,all it will do is make the people who do have to work"suffer".......I hope this makes sense ......
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
23 Mar 08
Oh, it definitely makes sense. And the price of groceries will continue to rise as will everything else. The end result will be a recession/depression.
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• United States
23 Mar 08
You are entirely right Slickcut. As a matter of fact, when all this craziness with the gas prices started, an expert said on the news the only way we will be able to get gas prices to go down is to have radical changes in driving habits across the board. We would have to really get into car pooling and driving less period, lowering the demand on gas and therefore forcing the oil companies to lower their prices. Unfortunately, as you said, with people needing to drive to work and whatnot, I don't see this happening.
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@weemam (13372)
21 Mar 08
Our petrol is now up to £1.04pence , and we are only a few miles from the oil rigs , it is rediculous , I have to drive my parents , my son and my hubby around as they can't walk too far , so I have no option pal , , it really annoys me , xx
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@weemam (13372)
23 Mar 08
I don't have much income pal as we are pensioners and my son has CP , we are lucky though as we all live in the same area , xx
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
23 Mar 08
I know, many of us have no choice when it comes to driving. There is no mass transit to where I work. I have seen my parents and family once in over 2 years cause it costs to much to drive. It must be nice to have the disposable income.
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@gberlin (3836)
22 Mar 08
I would think that the price of gas is high enough now to encourage people to drive less. Any additional costs to the price of gas would truly be a hardship for those who need to drive to get to work. It doesn't make sense to me but then a lot of what politicians do does not make sense to me.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
23 Mar 08
It is already a hardship for me. Somehow I should not have to be spending 1/2 days salary to fill up my 4 cylinder minivan. And I can't afford something more gas efficient, I don't get paid enough. Definitely a viscous cycle.
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
21 Mar 08
This is crazy. I was blinking my eyes 2 days ago when pumping. $40 for 11 gallons of gasoline.... Will it stop me from driving, no, because 90% of my driving is work related. 10 % is related with grocery shopping....
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
23 Mar 08
Exactly...work related driving is the bulk of my driving. If they are going to come up with some idea for the $.50 a gallon tax, we should get a certain number of gallons per month that are tax free for work related expenses. I put $10 into my van yesterday...and it did not hit a quarter tank.
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
23 Mar 08
Isn't it crazy? how many times can we pay taxes? Isn't our work taxable already?
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• United States
21 Mar 08
with the current price of gass who can afford to just joy ride the only driving most folks do is definatly nececary upping the price in any ammount is ridiculous
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
23 Mar 08
Exactly, we don't do joy riding. It is work and grocery jumping and other necessities. Tonight hubby spent over an hour washing the dogs rather than driving the 15 miles to the dog wash.
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• United States
21 Mar 08
I haven't read the story yet, but where has this guy been living, a hole in the ground? Doesn't he realize that the base price of gas is so high already? Some of us are driving less, but then again, this is affecting people's pocket already, especially those who have to drive long distances to work, or their work includes driving. I understand this guys premise of making gas prices so high that people will change their driving habits. But a raise in taxes on that is ridiculous. Let the prices raise on their own to a point where our driving habits will have to be changed, don't raise the prices here too.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
23 Mar 08
I would also like to know where that extra tax money would be going...it had better be to develop viable alternative energy sources.
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• United States
23 Mar 08
Yes, that is what I would hope too. But there is no telling where the politician would actually have the money go. If this goes any further, I hope it comes down to a vote of the people; and before I would vote for it, they would have to explain every detail of where the money is going before I would actually consider voting in favor of it. Even though I don't drive, I truly hope that this doesn't go any further at all.
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@sandeep_t (428)
• India
21 Mar 08
He is just not stupid but also idiot and arrogant. You know what happens when gas rates increases, our wallet runs out quickly. So consumers disposable income would be reduced substancially. The other thing that could happen is transportation costs increase. So food costs get increased. Infact all the daily need cost would be increased. Inflation coupled with low income is sure to take the economy into recession. Let those stupids first consult economists and the data analysts before making such comments
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
23 Mar 08
You are right, how come those of us here at the bottom of the food chain can figure this out, but our high paid politicians can't. We will go past recession into depression.
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@Deea48 (1166)
• United States
24 Mar 08
Ok when will it ever stop, I have to agree, if they want to put us in a recession, keep adding on more expenses. What really toast my cookies is when they tell about how the oil companys are making all these huge profits, billions. When are they going to take a little less, how do we stop them from bleeding us as well. It is getting scary out there now, I am glad I live close to my job, so much easier that way and cheaper. But if your job was to drive, like a pizza driver or a courier service. Who is going to pay that cost for them, ummm well I bet you can guess right. I hope they continue all their efforts towards alternatives, and then make the alternative affordable for all. Forget more taxes, I am sure the oil companys will be crying for more of our money soon.
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
24 Mar 08
I know, it is difficult and for people who have to drive for a living such as real estate agents etc, this is really hurting them. I would not mind more taxes if we ultimately benefitted from them...but you know that won't happen.