Bush Speaks Locally
By worldwise1
@worldwise1 (14885)
United States
March 27, 2008 10:10am CST
I have just been sitting her working on myLot while President Bush, who is speaking from Wright Patterson Air Force Base near here, drones on about the war in Ira in the background. The rhetoric is the SOS if you ask me. He is pointing out all of the success we are having over there, how much better life has become for the people there, and on and on. Do you really believe that we are making so much progress in Iraq? Somehow, it just doesn't seem that way to me. I will bow to the opinions of those who are more informed than myself.
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
27 Mar 08
Worldwise,
I honestly do believe things are getting better in Iraq. Whereas in the past we were hearing of bomb blast almost daily now they are down to a few per month. Are things great in Iraq? No and they probably won't be for some time to come! I don't think we have even reached the level of the quality of life pre-US invaision which was terrible at best under their former "leader". I believe great strides have been taken in the last few months to get Iraq moving in the right direction and maybe soon we actually will see more and more of our troops coming home and then when all is said and done we'll just have a shell force over there to help protect the peace as we do in other countries like Germany and Korea.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
28 Mar 08
I'll agree to disagree, rodney, because they have been shelling the Green Zone for the last few days and I've hear from the mouths of some Iraqi citizens that there are still many problems with regards to day-to-day necessities such as utilities and water. I believe the situation will grow worse.
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
28 Mar 08
I never meant to imply that it was going to be easy or there wouldn't be some resistance along the way. These terrorists have been using this part of the world without reserve for decades now and they will not give up very easily! I am not pro-war but that said I believe there are times when war is a necessary evil and this was one of them. When we went into Iraq, the approval rating for going was off the charts, the highest ever for a war. What did the people of America think; we were just going to go in and waltz around Baghdad once or twice and come home? War destabilizes the area where it is fought and it is just not possible to go in, get it done, and get out. It just doesn't work that way.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
27 Mar 08
I honestly believe we are making progress in Iraq. I know it's slow progress, and people are dieing, but it will get better. Progress only seemed so much faster in Afghanistan because the place was a complete $hithole. When a country hits rock bottom, there's nowhere to go but up. In Iraq, the war hurt the country and it will take time to build it into a solid nation.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
28 Mar 08
I'm not pro-war by any stretch of the imagination. I've said many times in many different threads that I did not agree with the war in Iraq and consider it a mistake. What all you anti-Bush people don't realize, is that the war has already happened. No matter how much you complain things will not just go back to the way they were. Clinton and Obama can't just end the war overnight if one of them becomes president. The war happened, it needs to be finished. That's just the way things work.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
28 Mar 08
I really believe all of you pro-war supporters are wearing rose-colored glasses, Taskr, because it does not compute that if you keep saying it it will come true. I predict that the worst is yet to come due to our involvement in the Middle East.


@winterose (39887)
• Canada
28 Mar 08
no I do not feel any real progress is being made,
and no government will admit when they are failing so why would bush's admin be different.
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
28 Mar 08
I don't know all that is going on, but I have heard reports on how the people feel safer now..
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
28 Mar 08
None of us should feel safe, carmelanirel, and we really cannot believe anything that comes from the government media complex.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
28 Mar 08
Sorry, I was talking about the people of Iraq, how they feel safer, not us.
@lisan23 (442)
• United States
27 Mar 08
We have progressed so far in Iraq that we are getting involved in their own civil war. The reason there isn't so many bombings is becasuse we are paying off former terrorsits and Al-Queda members to give us information. Is this OK? (And they are having soldiers - the same soldiers that these people were trying to kill - paying these former terrorists!) I don't think so. We didn't have a legitimate reason to invade Iraq in the first place, and the longer we stay the more money it costs, the more lives it costs, and the more distant we become with our foreign allies.
This war is costing more than money and lives, it is costing the US it's reputation. Al-Queda wasn't there before we invaded, and our fight on terror has become a defensive position. We sit in Iraq for fear that once we live it will be overtaken by Al-Queda. (In reality, it will probably be involved in a civil war for quite some time.) We need to be concerned about Al-Queda, and get out of Iraq.
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
27 Mar 08
No,Lisan,
America's credibility and her reputation go in the toilet the day, hour, minute and second we leave Iraq without FIRST making sure they can't be over run by the terrorists and anarchists in the middle east! This will involve having a sizable force there for a long time to come. We didn't go into Iraq without cause and just because some liberal movie star or congressman says there were no weapons of mass destruction doesn't prove there were none! Saddam was not stupid enough to get his country invaded by a super-power when he had nothing to hide!
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
28 Mar 08
You seem to be right on point concerning the war in Iraq, lisan. I see so many people who view things the way they would like for them to be rather than the way they really are. As for rodney's comments, it is just more pro-war rhetoric.




