Do Governments have the right to refuse a child's name?

Canada
April 22, 2008 2:37pm CST
There is this story I heard where a family whose last name was Pigg, named there daughter, Ima. Can you imagine how that girl felt all her life? Here in Quebec a woman wanted to name her daughter Spatula, like the cooking utensil and the government refused the name. Some people like to make up names to be original for example a couple named Carol and Dell might want to name their child Cardell, as a combinations of both names. Some of the names can get pretty weird, but does the government have the right to say no you can't name your child a certain name? What are some of the weird names you have heard people call their children?
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@Myrrdin (3601)
• Canada
22 Apr 08
There was a case of a couple in china that wanted to name their kids @ I don't know what they call it though, but I suppose if prince can rename himself to a symbol then why can't these parents name their kid @? I really don't think the government should have the right to interfere, but then again I think the government should stay out of everyones business unless there is harm involved.
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• Canada
24 Apr 08
Off hand I forget what the @ symbol is called too, I keep thinking ampersand but that is the & symbol. In the case of prince changing his name to a symbol was that legal I mean did he change his name? or his personae? he was also called the artist formerly known as prince. To me that is like the group H-town becoming the group Jagged edge, they all kept their real legal names. And I am pretty sure whatever you wanna call him his name is probably still legally Prince Rogers Nelson. I agree the government should stay out unless there is possible harm due to the name.
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@rombi001 (941)
22 Apr 08
hehe, you're right... Well some parents think its funny but their children will have to go thfough all that embaressment... But that doesn't mean the government should be allowed to change it... How about this for a name??Adora D. Ikk
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• Canada
24 Apr 08
I've seen worse names than that .. like D ick Van D yke etc. If it seems to be a normal name it should be left alone but when it is really bad they should prevent it cause it's just awful for these poor children.
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• Canada
24 Apr 08
lol they would not even let me write his name it's so offensive lol.
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• Philippines
23 Apr 08
I feel that the parents of the child should have the right to name their child whatever they so wish, as what may be unusual to others may be beautiful to them. One example was a girl at my high school named Joanathan. I'm assuming her parents names are something like Jonathan and Joannie. I don't quite like the name but can see that for the parents, it was carefully crafted. However, if the name is obscene, racist or something towards these extremes, then I wouldn't object to government intervention in the naming process.
• Canada
27 Apr 08
It is true it could sound bad to one person and good to another, but if it is in the dictionary as something bad it should not be allowed. Definitely not any racist ones or anything obscene. Joanathan that's interesting I can see it being a nice name, tho it is not my preference.
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• United States
23 Apr 08
Oh you want to hear some weird names i got some for you. how about aquadell, belonga, ahenewa, xiomara,reazi, meechiko, mister, sir derius, sir caleb, princess, imani, love, and phelona.
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• Canada
27 Apr 08
Wow those are some weird names indeed ... I'd hate to be one of those kids. I couldn't imagine having to go through life with a name like Belonga or Aquadell. The government should have stepped in on those lol.
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@djmarion (4900)
• Philippines
23 Apr 08
i never heard a case where the government step into the battle of naming a child, i guess here in our country there is no such thing as government intervention as long as the name you want will not promote something against the government. although we can name our children with anything we like, we still need to use our common sense and think of their feelings when they grow up, what we think as cute may not be too cute for their taste when they reach the age when they can already decide and think reasonably.
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• Canada
27 Apr 08
I agree even if the country or government does not step in we need to use common sense when naming our children. If we don;t they will have it very hard in life, not that life isn't hard enough as it is.
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@union6 (326)
23 Apr 08
i remember hearing about one name that was somthing like Fighter Pilot or somthing like that. The German goverment is actully quite striked when it comes to names and they do refuse quite alot every year, there guidlines are somthing like, the name cant be linked to any group that is deemd as neo-nazi, it cant be religious or somthing.
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• Canada
24 Apr 08
I think that is very responsible of them to do that, especially with names that can insight hatred towards or amongst people. And fighter pilot lol that is just off the wall, and what a name to live up to.
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@winterose (39893)
• Canada
23 Apr 08
If I was the government I would not allow them to name their daughter Ima Pigg, or even spatula, this name will cause trauma all their lives. but where do you draw the line about what is acceptable and what is not, that can become a stinky gray area.
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• Canada
24 Apr 08
Well how to decide what to prevent will be a challenge indeed but they should accept that challenge and try to prevent kids from being tormented. If they find that many names the prevent reoccur frequently by different people, then they can decide to let it pass and see what happens.
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• Canada
23 Apr 08
Wow that is really weird! And I most deffinatly feel bad for that girl =/ Well .. Weird names I have heard are I guess mostly of celebs .. Like Apple, and Moon Raker or Moon something lol. I have a friend named Donovan after that singer guy. I also have a friend named Thijs but its a Dutch name so I dont know if you would consider it weird. I think its kinda strange that there are some guys who have girl names .. But started off being names for men or whatever like Stacey and Ashley and stuff like that..
• Canada
24 Apr 08
Thanks for responding, I remember some of those celeb names like Soleil Moon Frye and such. And those male/female names like Leslie or Kelly I never liked that idea tho I just thought it sounded weird since they are used mostly be females now. And Thijs looks weird written but I'd have to hear it, at least it isn't English tho lol.
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@Eacync54 (86)
• United States
23 Apr 08
yes they do because parents give their children stupid and umappropriate names. Alot of people change their name after they're all grown up.
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• Canada
24 Apr 08
yes I agree a lot of the names are inappropriate and cause the bearer anguish. Thanks for you opinion.
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@Arkadus (896)
• Canada
22 Apr 08
It's one thing when it's something clever, or unique but naming your kid something Spatula or somesuch I kind of think the government should step in. I don't see a problem with naming them something obscure or made up or anything. I n fact I'd find it amusing since during those school assignments where you had to look up the meaning of your name, well, the teacher'd be put in their place.
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• Canada
24 Apr 08
I agree that would have been interesting if I had a weird unique name when I was in school and we had to look up our names. I sorta wished I had a less normal name, but I am certainly glad I was not given a name that makes people laugh or gasp etc.
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@elmiko (6635)
• United States
22 Apr 08
The government is worried about the kids mental health because of the name. Theres no doubt kids like this will be made fun of. People will try to be more and more original which I can understand. Spatula seems like a borderline degrading and non-degrading name to me. I think it would sound like a nice name if it was not named after a cooking utensil.
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• Canada
24 Apr 08
Yeah they don't want too many kids growing up with a stigma, they will be made fun of enough with a normal name. Spatula I agree does not sound that bad too me except I think of flipping burgers or whatever when I hear it, but thats also cause I've only ever heard it pronounced the same as the utensil. It would most likely sound different if it came from another language tho people would still read it the same.. and like what kind of name is that?
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@mnflower (1300)
• United States
22 Apr 08
first off I could not even think of calling a child spatula that is just rude, and not fair to the child either, I have never heard of the government doing anything like that, but in this cause for the child's sake I am glad that they did...There is alot of names out there and everyone wants to be unique and different and why wouldn't the government get involved they seem to be involved in every other aspects of our lives let just add more too it...ha ha I have heard alot of strange names but that is what they are rude and strange so I am not going to take the time to list any alot of these names are changed when they are old enough to change for it is real easy nowadays to get your name changed legally..so maybe this is just another part of the governement where they are saying you can't use common dictionary names as names to kids...like would be like having a child called fork...unreal what people sometimes think...
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• Canada
24 Apr 08
I agree a lot of names are rude and inconsiderate, I do think the government should step in if the name is that bad. Tho it would be different names for different reasons in different places around the world. So someone named spatula could still show up lol and have to change their name or deal with cruel people. I definitely don't think people should use dictionary names for a child's name. Fork? lol Spoon maybe? nah that wouldn't work either.
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• United States
22 Apr 08
Actually the name was "Hogg." One of the founders of Texas did this to his daughter. There is now a famous foundation name for Ms. Ima Hogg. Personally, the government should not interfere unless the name is obscene or discriminatory. After that it is up the parents to think ahead. Or the kid can always legally change when the kid gets old enough.
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• United States
22 Apr 08
I dont think the government should be able to say what a parent names their child, I also dont think the government should tell us how to raise them, but they do that too. I have a step brother that lived in california for a while w/ his mom and when he came back home he told of us of a gal there with the name alfelia butt, now what were those parents thinking, cruel to the child, but it is their right and the childs right to change it when they get old enough.
• Canada
24 Apr 08
Well I'm choosing to assume they just didn't place much thought in that name and probably didn't notice till someone else told them. A kid could change his name later on but should they have to pay for someone else's mistake? lol wouldn't be so bad if you can change you name for free.
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• United States
22 Apr 08
I knew a guy in college whose name was "Trouble." Not kidding, it was his actual name. I'm of the opinion that people should be able to name their kids what they want. There are a lot of really strangely spelled and strangely pronounced names in the world, so I don't see any problem with naming your child "Spatula." It wouldn't be the weirdest one I've ever heard! :)
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• Canada
24 Apr 08
I agree if Spatula was from another language and that's how they arrived at the name, just not in the case where they need a name so they pick the first object they see and use it. I knew someone named Diksik sound that one out sounds like 2 words ya? well the pronunciation is hardly any better it is pronounced dik sounds like it looks , but the sik is pronounced like the four letter word for excrement... what a name at least he was from another culture and those words mean nothing to them.
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@kezabelle (2980)
22 Apr 08
No as parents it should be our choice to choose what ever name we like, unfortunatly though some people just get daft when naming their children so maybe it is best the goverment can step in and say no, I mean seriously why would you want to call your child spatula that just sounds cruel! We chose names we liked they werent made up or silly spellings and a lot of thought went into the fact it will stick with our children all their lives
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• Canada
24 Apr 08
I too think people should have the right to name a child whatever they want, if it is a reasonable name in the culture you are living in. I do think that names like spatula or noxeema are just uncalled for and not only should the government step in and prevent it, they should get those parents mental health tested.
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@murtagh92 (182)
• United States
24 Apr 08
i don't think the government should be allowed to interfere with wat the parents want to name their child...however, the parents should take into wat a name like Ima Pigg could do to their child in the future...um...dunno any weird names, though someone i know almost ended up with the name Summer Camp..lol, thats all i can think of
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@Chispa514 (871)
• Montreal, Quebec
24 Apr 08
Honestly I think that is really dumb. I don't think the government should have the right to reject a name for someone's child.,regardless how bizarre it might be. Just because the government thinks its bizarre, doesn't mean its a bad anme. Maybe the couple (or parent) has a real sentimental reason for wanting to name their child a certain name. If they start rejecting certain names, its like as if they are trying to say that yes, you may have created the child, but in reality we(the government) owns all rights to that child. Its so idiotic. I have 2 names chosen for a girl and 2 names chosen for a boy, and they are sentimental, as well as original, I would like to see the governemtn tell me, when the time comes, that I can't name my child one of those names, I WILL put up a fight, all the way to the supreme court of canada if need be, regardless how much money it costs, because its the principal of it
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@coffeeshot (3785)
• Australia
24 Apr 08
This is difficult to say. You have to give people freedom to call their kids what they wish but at the same time, if it is deemed too cruel, of course they should step in and do something. 'Ima Pigg' now to me that's child abuse. That kid is going to have no self esteem at school and she'll be totally over her name by them time she's 8. i think her parents ae stupid and shuld be made to change her name. Having 'Pigg' as a last name is bad enough on its own.
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• United States
22 Apr 08
Some of these names are wrong, and would give the child a stigma for the rest of their lives. But I don't believe the government has a right to say what you can and can't name your child. Here in America, I would consider the naming of a child as an extension of the freedom of speech. The government telling parents that they can't name their child a certain name would be a violation of that right.
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• United States
22 Apr 08
I do remember a girl that named her child Sonnika. The reason the name is weird was the girl was a bit promiscuous. When we asked who the daddy was, she replied, "I don't know, some n*gga." I am glad that the name wasn't just that, and I hope she doesn't tell the child that when she gets older.
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• Canada
24 Apr 08
Well in my opinion that wouldn't be a name they would need to prevent there is nothing offensive or inherently negative about it ... unless you know that story. I hope she never gets told that story I also hopes she doesn't read it here XD now it's in writing. I do agree that people have rights but with that being said the people on the receiving end have rights too.
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