O My ...

@Ldyjarhead (10233)
United States
May 1, 2008 3:37pm CST
.. or was that a zero? One of my biggest pet peeves is when someone will be spouting off a number and using the letter 'O' instead of saying zero. They are two entirely different things! ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ Is not at all like 12345678910 My area code is 740 - seven four ZERO ... not seven four O Yes, they look pretty much alike, but you wouldn't say your phone number is five five five-seven el two two, would you? The el looks like a one, doesn't it? To me that is one of the most common misuses of the English language, and it is so basic. Most children learn their letters and numbers long before hitting the school system, so why is that particular thing so grossly misunderstood? Do you do it? Come on, you know you do!
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@valerie37 (1002)
• Christiansburg, Virginia
30 May 08
Yes, I admit I do. Our are code is 540 and I will say five four O not zero, of course I don't know of anyone I've heard around here who doesn't say it five four O.
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@DarkDancer (1011)
• Dayton, Ohio
30 May 08
You have also found one of my pet peeves, it annoys me no end. I had a girlfriend once who tried to justify her use of oh for zero by saying that she was contracting the o at the end of zero.....no way.
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@bagumbayan (2705)
• Philippines
15 May 08
You seems to be very particular on something written wrong or mistyped by someone. There are those who really dont care about that as long as they can read. Never mind them. Maybe youre a perfectionist but many are not. Sorry for commenting, but this will be my last comment to you on things youre always noticing on other peoples mistakes. God Bless.
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@koalatbs (2229)
• United States
8 May 08
Yes, I know I DO do it sometimes... and you are soooo right too! I bee bad. LoL! That is one of my pet peeves! I am a pretty good speller and it just bothers me when I read poor spelling, even more so than poor grammer. Well, they both bother me I guess. There or their... right or wright... where or were, etc. etc. etc! Those are even more difficult for a lot of people. I find it fairly simple myself and I am sooo surprised when I find high school and even college grads who have not figured it out yet!
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
8 May 08
Exactly! (and you spelled grammar wrong, silly girl, LOL).
@koalatbs (2229)
• United States
8 May 08
Oh goodness... and here I thought I was a pretty good speeler! ;) LoL
@whiteheron (4222)
• United States
2 May 08
When I am giving out digets like phone numbers I say zero-3,5,1 for the last four digets of my phone number. but I may type 0 or O and think nothing of it either way as both are rounded. It is interesting too that if I were to say a number like 202. I would say 2 0h 2 and not 2 zero 2. I seem to do what sounds better to the ear assuming that the people who hear me will not have any difficulties understanding what I am talking about. And, I may well continue to do so even after today. Sorry... not.
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
2 May 08
LOL ... I'm guilty as well. I wonder why it is that sometimes it just sounds better a certain way? It's wrong, right?
• United States
3 May 08
Do you hear the song playing..."It can't be wrong if it feels so right..." I really could not care less about it than I do... Honestly, there are worse things to worry about... Like rice...
• Southend-On-Sea, England
1 May 08
Your peeve reminded me of one of mine that I haven't yet recorded on this site. In past centuries, we've always called our years, like for instance 1966 we'd say in words, nineteen sixty six....for 1854 we's say in words, eighteen fifty four. Why now that we're in the 21st century, do we say, in words for instance, two thousand and eight? Why don't we say twenty O eight? Sorry I had to say O there instead of nought or zero...but never fear, that won't happen once we reach 2010, which no doubt we'll call two thousand and ten instead of twenty ten.
• Dayton, Ohio
30 May 08
Actually I will call it twenty ten because I am a sciuence fiction fan and that's the way we always said the name of that Arthur C. Clarke book.
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
1 May 08
Yes, another oddity for sure. I remember just before the turn of the century, we were all saying how odd it was to say 'two thousand' whatever. Now it doesn't seem odd at all.
@tigerdragon (4297)
• Philippines
2 May 08
same thing here, i keep on hearing americans say "O" rather than saying zero. i once worked in a call center for a cellphone company and i always hear them say , "o" ans if i mention zero to them with a series of numbers , they can't understand it unless i rephrase it and say "o". i don't know why.
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
2 May 08
Yep, pretty sad, isn't it?
@Modestah (11177)
• United States
1 May 08
That is one of my peeves too! I am forever correcting the children and to my shame, I am also always correcting my husband. He is notorious for it.
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
1 May 08
I admit I still slip, but never when reciting a series of numbers. I think it was pointed out to me once while I was in the Marine Corps. It's one of those little lessons that I never forgot!
@kykidd (6812)
• United States
1 May 08
I think I do this when it comes to phone numbers, or when it is obvious that it is a number. Even when I am talking about the year of a vehicle I will say "Is that an o eight". Sorry, if I irritate you. :)
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
1 May 08
I must admit that now that we're into the 21st century, if you don't say it like 'o eight' it does sound odd. It's not right, though, it's just not! (stomping foot here). Some scholar needs to come up with something that works better and put the word out.
@Modestah (11177)
• United States
1 May 08
if I were to flub up this is the example of when it would happen - saying oh 8, however, I generally will say two thousand eight... and not oh 8.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
2 May 08
Oops I think I'm sometimes guilty of saying "O' rather than zero when I'm saying a phone number or another number to people..don't know why. And yes, I do understand the difference between the two. I think I do it out of habit as I do notice others doing the same thing. Like if I'm out and my message machine records a message then I play it back when I get home I think the majority of people when they leave their phone numbers do say "O" instead of zero
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
2 May 08
Phone numbers and such are the ones that really frustrate me. I always say zero when giving out a series of numbers like that. If I'm saying something like the current year, I might say 'oh eight', because it sounds better. Still wrong, and I don't know how we'd ever get people to change that.
@whittby (3072)
• United States
2 May 08
Of course I do it. I do it all the time. Growing up I lived at 1405. We never said we lived at one four zero five. It was always one four oh five. We have to blame my parents for that one. Now you know saying oh! is easier than zero - it's just one syllable.
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
2 May 08
Oh yes, it's definitely easier and because we've been doing it so long, it just sounds right. But it's wrong!
@moneyandgc (3428)
• United States
2 May 08
I suppose it all depends on who I am talking to and what I am referencing. If I am on a call or talking to someone I don't know, I always say zero. I actually make an effort to do this; because I grew up saying O instead of 0. If I am speaking with someone that I am close to I may or may not say zero. When talking about the year, I may say that "she graduated in 'O'3."
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
2 May 08
Exactly. With certain things it just sounds better with the 'oh'. Still incorrect, but I don't know how we'd get it changed!
• United States
1 May 08
You aren't the only one with that pet peeve...lol. (scary) I do say it when saying the time, or the total sale amount, even a house address- but only if it is a short number. I guess because that isn't a long string of numbers someone is trying to write down? Right now my address is 4 digits long and I say each one individually...and if there was a zero in it, I would say zero not o. So, I do not use it when I am giving a phone number or credit card number- that bugs me. My other pet peeve is when people are giving me their phone number and they say "five five five- nineteen thirty two". That drives me nuts- not the "32" part so much but so often when they say "nine-teen" I write the 9 then have to go back and put in the 1 because I realize what they've done. Not a huge deal..but that is what pet peeves are,I suppose...those little annoyances.
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
1 May 08
Oh yes yes yes, that is another one! I do the same thing, start writing down the number based on the first syllable out of their mouth and then realize it's wrong. Come on people, each number is independent when giving out a series like that.
@toosh21 (800)
• Australia
2 May 08
Yes, I hate to admit it but I do it - I really try not to, especially now I have kids, but I still find myself saying it sometimes. I am trying!
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
2 May 08
LOL. That's a good little toosh. I admit that I do it for certain things too, but I try not to. Definitely when saying a series of numbers like a phone number, I will use the proper 'zero'.
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
1 May 08
I never thought about this before but you are absolutely right. People do mistake an oh for a zero, and I don't know why. 1 and l is also a problem for me when I see it in an email, I am not sure if the letter or number.
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
1 May 08
I'm not talking about how it is typed, but how do you say it? Do you say: two zero or two oh ???
@youdontsay (3497)
• United States
2 May 08
It is confusing sometimes when people do that. Zero is a distinct word that really identifies a number. But "O" is lots of things, but not a number. And, yes, sometimes I do it, too. There is "Hawaii Five O", for instance. Come to think of it, that could be five Oprahs doing the hoola!
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
1 May 08
You caught me, yes I do that..But lately I have been trying not, but it still slips out sometimes.. It is strange though, why did people start saying that? Because like you said, we learn in kindergarten that an "O" is a letter and a "0" is a number, why do we call "0" an "O" ?????
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
1 May 08
Exactly! I slip too, but I'm pretty adamant when it's a series of numbers, like a phone number or something. I think I hear the O used more than the zero, so it makes me wonder just where the slipup starts? Are we teaching our children wrong?
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@gemini_rose (16264)
1 May 08
Oh yes I have done this a few times before, in fact I lie, now I have just sat and thought about it I do it more than a few times. You are right though and I tell it to my kids too, and I have just realised that when I do they look at me gone out and it is because at school they are taught zero and not 0.
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
1 May 08
There ya go - busted! You're going to do better from now on, right? I'll be checking up on you.
@anawar (2404)
• United States
2 May 08
No, I always use the correct way to express the letter o versus the number zero. I know someone who absolutey will not change from saying o to zero. They think it's a rule enforced on people who have the freedom to say whatever they want. It drives me crazy. What kind of phone number is 6o7-3o12? The o doesn't even correspond to the correct number on the phone! The letter 0 should land on zero to be correct. Whatever. People say whatever they want to. I try not to cringe. It's free expression. I'm sure I have words that make other people cringe.
• United States
1 May 08
i have a real problem with this too and i also need to learn the words they use in the military to stand for the letters, also see - i run an internet service - and there are a lot of times when my customers and i need to spell out usernames or passwords over the phone (come to think of it - i have do do this with my on name - first name starts with s, last name starts with f) anyway - the difference between zero and "oh" is very important - so i'm in the habit of saying zero - even if it is obvious that we are only discussing digits...
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
1 May 08
Ah,the phonetic alphabet. I'm very familiar with that, being as I'm a retired Marine. : ) I notice that the words chosen by 'civilians' to use for a particular letter are seldom what the official phonetic alphabet is. I've been on the phone spelling out my name or somesuch for someone and they pause and have to think about what I'm saying when I say 'R as in Romeo' or 'T as in Tango'.