Mother's Day Approaches: Do You or Did You Love Your Mother?

Faye Dunaway as Joan Crawford: Mommie Dearest - Image of actress Faye Dunaway as Joan Crawford
@pyewacket (43903)
United States
May 10, 2008 1:35am CST
Okay I suppose this is a bit of a different twist here to the whole Mother's Day thing and bit of a rant. I know we're all supposedto love our mother's if they are still alive, or at least have fond memories if they are no longer here. Some or many of you whose mother's have passed on may feel saddened that their mother is no longer around and maybe Mother's Day is filled with sadness. But what if you had a mother who was the next closest candidate for the Mommie Dearest award?Even while my mother was still alive, and especially during the last ten years of her life, I just couldn't get into the whole Mother's Day spirit of it. I just found it a hypocrisy to buy some "endearing" Mother's Day card when inwardly I was loathing her. Now I know many MyLotter's also have had "charming" family backgrounds as well, shall we say dysfunctional? My mother was perhaps NOT as bad as some who have related their stories about not only their mother, but in general their parents. I do have to admit my "anger" toward her is lessening with time...in fact, even in her last year of her life I just felt an enormous pity on her, and still do, since she made her own life so miserable by her own choice, and making mine lousy as well. She created so many difficulties in our lives, which I'm not going to get into here again, as many of my friends know my story only to well. You see one of the main problems that as time went by and because of her emotional/psychological problems that became stronger and more apparent...and yes, she was seeing a psychiatrist who in my opinion didn't do shat for her, all I could see was the negative in her as she had become a negative, draining, blood-sucking "vampire"--and yes I think we ALL know those types of people. Even now that she's gone I can't for the life of me remember any positive qualities about her..since the negative became so much more dominant in her personality and actions. Okay...is it just me, or can anyone else relate here? Did you have a "mommie dearest" kind of mother and can only remember the negative attributes of your mother and just can't plain remember anything positive? Was Mother's Day in a sense torture for you since you thought it was a hypocrisy to celebrate Mother's Day?
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@BarBaraPrz (45597)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
10 May 08
I loved my mother and missed her dearly when she passed.
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@BarBaraPrz (45597)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
11 May 08
Yes, I was blessed. She was my best friend.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 May 08
I don't know what to say to you...it was the opposite for me, like a great burden had been lifted from me when my mother passed...even my friends who knew what was going on said the same thing
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@littleowl (7157)
10 May 08
Hi Pye-fortuanatley I am very close to my mother and though we have had our ups and downs I love her dearly so Mothers Day means an important occasion just to show my thanks and appreciation to her for all the lovley things she has done for me and how she has always been there for me-through my whole life-bright blessings littleowl
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 May 08
You really are blessed then littleowl and have to admit I envy you. In my case instead of getting closer as time went on, my mother and I got more distant to the point most times if I talked to her, it be a one-sided conversation..she just wouldn't respond at all
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@littleowl (7157)
11 May 08
Thanks Pye-I do feel for you though cos on the other hand I am not that close to my dad and we really just are polite to each other as my younger sister and her sons are his favourite-he made that perfectly clear on his last birthday-which has caused a fairly big rift between us-so in that sense I can understand how you must feel about your mum-blessed be littleowl
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
10 May 08
DIdnt have a mom like that. and I wil call her like I always do havent bought a present in a long time and now dont know if she would remember it, but then I am saving money to go see her next month so that will just have to be her present. also will be taking her to the family reunion
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
12 May 08
She has short term memory loss. and demintia. they giving her meds in hopes that she dont get alzhimers
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 May 08
Probably one of the things that made it more difficult between us is that we did live together right to her dying days...maybe if we hadn't things might have been better between us --does your mother have Alzheimer's? Is that why she's forgetful?
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• United States
10 May 08
Pye, first let me start by saying I think you are a very brave soul for tackling this issue from the other side of the coin. I for one appreciate that you have. Love my mother I did, there is no doubt about that. I do have fond memories of her, especially her cooking, our shared love of horror and ghost movies. There are many things I think about and still get a giggle about my MOM. I do believe in my heart my mother did the best she could. Having said that her best was lacking in every definition of a loving protective mother. I am not going to regale all of the abuses, it is just not necessary. She was a bitter unhappy woman, I jumped through hoops trying to make her happy, like any child does. What she allowed to happen to me changed me forever and ever. I don't know who I might have been had she been a stronger woman. Like you I took care of my Mother though her illness that claimed her life. It was those years that were the hardest, i was a young mother, wife, employee and student, trying to do the best I could for everyone I loved including an ailing Mother. You think she would have given me something, but instead she only wanted more and more hoops and paces. I did it because I loved her and inspite of her being so hateful. Now that she is gone I do miss her, yet I feel relief at the same time. I do not dwell on the negative and instead I try and share the good things I have to hold on to about my Mom. For the most part it is the fondness that I share. I really think Mothers day is a celebration of Daughters.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 May 08
Actually your response here inspired me for another discussion about my mother with the idea you mention about if your mother had been a stronger person you couldn't be who you are now...I can relate to that...and I describe it in my other discussion. My mother was actually the opposite in regards to being a "protective" mother...she was overbearing and overprotective of me, stifling, smothering and I can see now a lot I think had to do with her own fears.
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@alindahaw (1219)
• Philippines
10 May 08
My mom and I are not exactly the best of friends. We have our differences but the good thing is that we still talk to each other and visit each other. I would like to think that as we both grow older, we become more sensitive to each other's feelings and that our relationship is getting better with time. I love her even if we do not agree on a lot of things.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 May 08
Unfortunately the relationship between my mother and I only became worse as she got older and more apart instead of together....I really had wished it hadn't but it did happen that way
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@wickedangel (1636)
• Dominican Republic
10 May 08
When I was younger I seriously really disliked my mother, I just couldn't get on with her or her ideas and just didn't believe half the things that she said. But with time I have been a little bit more forgiving and see her as a marvellous person that was born way out of time. She was brought up from a 'good (wealthy) family' in S Africa and so was mollycoddolled most of her young life. But she went out alone and was almost treated as royalty around the African nations as nearly everyone knew my grandfather. Even when she moved to the UK the SA newspapers were tracking her and had lots of articles on what she was doing etc. So when she was bringing me up she had no idea what it was like to be in London without a Dad - I was one of those b'stds which living with the stigma was horrible in my time but means nothing now! Now she needs me and I am there for her. I have a friend who I have known since I was 6 months old, now her mother is the epitamy of a coniving horrible wrench that I would love to blast out of the water and off this planet. She has not a nice word to say to or about my friend, treats her like sh*t too, forced my friend to give up her inheritance and then has named her grand-daughter as 'heiress', leaving not a penny to my friend in her will and lets the daughter and granddaughter know. Not very nice. Plus she is incredibly good at mind games and my goodness does she play them. YUCK. So there will be no mother's day for her! Instead my friend is coming to see my mother who loves her for what she is and what she has gone through and she makes her feel like her own daughter. Thanks for sharing this with us and I am truly sorry that you had to go through all that pain for so many years. People tell you to try and forget and forgive, huh, did they go through that sort of childhood and anyway if you don't want to forgive and forget then so be it. Just try to be happy with everything around you that is alive and well. BIG HUG.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
10 May 08
Up until 20 years ago my Mum and me did not get on to well at all But then we had a big talk about everything and sorted it from there which I was so glad about, even though for the first 26 years I did not like my Mum because of how she was with me and what she used to say to me I still loved her since the talk we have been getting on great I am sorry that you and your Mum never got it sorted and managed to talk I don't look back and I have never held it against my Mum as it is was all over once we talked
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 May 08
Well gabs, it wasn't like my mother and I didn't talk...we did, or actually I did..she knew very well where I was at and coming from but it was like she just plain didn't listen...most of the conversations between us were one-sided..I was trying to open up with my feelings but she pushed them aside...The common case scenario was I be trying to talk to her heart to heart but wouldn't get a response...she would just stare at me without saying a word...like yikes I wanted some feedback there but never got it
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
10 May 08
My life is all about my Mother now. My mother is an Angel and I love her very much. She doesn't have more than few months to live. I still believe in miracles and miracle healing. At least she is not alone. My brother and his wife are taking care of her now. I want to give her all possible love and help her to have maximum comfort for last days.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 May 08
Yes, Pola I do understand where you're coming from and this is a difficult time for you and yes I still will send my prayers for some kind of healing for your mother
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@TerryZ (22076)
• United States
10 May 08
Mothers day is always sad for me because my Mom was the best. And I miss her very much. We were always together.LOL She left this world way too young. I know you had to endure alot when your Mom was alive. And Im sorry for that. I wish it could have different for you.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 May 08
Mother's Day is sad for me too, but in a different way. I really truly pitied my mother...it was like in her later years the woman that looked and sound like my mother was no longer the same person--she could have had a much better life toward the end had she wished it, but she didn't...she made it difficult for everyone around her. She alienated her friends too after awhile and later they all dumped her and that was by her own doing as well..one, for being a chronic lier, and two, for constantly taking advantage of people especially borrowing large sums of money and never paying back...they gave up on her
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• United States
10 May 08
To me my maternal grandmother filled the place in my heart for a mother. My birth mother left my brother and I when I was 5 years old and I never saw her again until I was sixteen. She was a nice sociable person but I did not have any feeling of love for her. My brother called her by her first name never "mother". Mother's day was not celebrated in my family. If fact I never even thought about it until I came to the states as it is a much bigger deal here than in Scotland.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 May 08
The real weird thing about my mother, when I look back was like she was two different people...yikes maybe she had a split personality thing going there..to the outside world she too was a nice "sociable" person, but usually to her advantage and took advantage of others..she was the supreme actress in other words..goodness, even when she talk to her friends on the phone her whole manner and voice sounded different...it was like I was the only person who saw her the way she really was..and it just plain wasn't pleasant..her temper tantrums were often quite scary to witness
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@smilyn (2967)
• United States
12 May 08
Though I do not celebrate the mother's day every year, I think it is just yet another special day to remember your mother's love..Just note it is "MOTHER'S LOVE " and not "MOTHER"...I remember my mom everyday, call her daily..Once in a month, I do visit her..Mother's day is just a special day to think about mom..
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
13 May 08
It sounds then like you have a great relationship with your mother...that's great!
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• United States
10 May 08
I don't feel that anyone should feel that they have to give a card or anything else if the life they lived as they were growing up made them feel hostile toward their Mom because of the bad things she did. Not every Mom should have been a Mom. Just because you carry a child in your womb doesn't mean that you are going to be a loving Mom. Some women are cut out for motherhood and some aren't. That is the sad fact of life. It would be nice if every child on this earth had a great Mom but that isn't so. When I hear stories like yours and others that I have heard I count my blessings each and everyday that I grew up with a Mom that took good care of all of us kids and there were ten of us.
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• United States
11 May 08
How you grew up can make you a stronger adult. If you can look beyond the bad things and look at the fact that you learned how to hold your own these are one of these blessings in disguise. Yep there were ten of us in the family and it made for interesting picnics and things. We always had someone to play with. Of course statisics say that a person who grew up in a large family will have one or two kids of their own. Guess what I have one child.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 May 08
OMG--there were ten of you in the family?? Wow. I sometimes think I was more of a mom to my mom than she was....it seemed even at an early age I was taking care of things and being responsible--but you know what? Maybe that wasn't a bad thing after all...it made me a stronger person for it
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• United States
10 May 08
*sigh*.. i..guess i do,or i wouldn't still take care of her.. but some days,it's very very hard.she can be the most bullheaded,difficult woman sometimes.not to mention she utterly destroyed my childhood. i guess pity is a good word.i know some of the way she acted then,and still acts now is due to the meds they pump her full of.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 May 08
I really didn't have a choice about taking care of my mother..she absolutely refused any outside help....she could've have had a visiting nurse, but nope...to keep SOME peace I gave in and was her caregiver, only to keep her quiet....she had a real fierce, explosive temper...sigh...to put it mildly. But instead of meds it was drinking with her..that was another thing that drastically changed her personality as well
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• United States
11 May 08
that whole nursing home thing with her helped me win the visiting nurse arguement.she finally realized,yes the state wasn't kidding.i told her look,i need help i just had surgery,i can't lift you. play my way,or i'm giving up. she's been on a behaving streak since then,which is scary in and of itself.she does seem to like the physical rehab guy,so that helps.
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@gemini_rose (16264)
10 May 08
My Mum is not maternal in any sense of the word, oh I do not doubt that she loves me at all, and she would do anything for me that she could but as a child I did not really feel that I came first in the scheme of things. My Mum and Dad ran pubs from when I was the age of about 5 years and so the pub always came first. They would both work long hours downstairs and so I would be on my own in the flat literally all the time and as I was an only child it could be very lonely. I used to be out all the time, I was never in as soon as I could I would be off out with my friends getting up to all kinds of mischief. So I would say that there is not a close bond with me and my parents at all but there is love.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 May 08
Oh my goodness gemini_rose..you were an only child too? And yes, I was left alone as well. My parents got divorced when I was a year and a half old...when they did, my mother came to "home base"--my father's family were in Calif (I was born there) while my mother's in NY...so she came back to NY and it was my great-grandmother, grandmother, mother and me living together..oddly enough I had a real bonding with my great-grandmother more than my grandmother and mother...anyway when I was five we, my grandmother, mother and I moved to this apt that I still live in...not long after maybe when I was only about seven, my mother went to the work force, so I was a latch key kid...alone as well, like you...and yes, did feel very lonely then...but my loneliness did at least bring out and sparked my creative endeavors..I mean I had to do something with all that alone time...if my mother did show affection toward me she did it in a really wrong way...by being way to overbearing and overprotecting...as one friend of mine who knows my story, she called it smothering, never letting me "breath"
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
13 May 08
Even though you didn't think you explained it properly I understand....It's sort of black and white with me...like part of me is the reclusive hermit loner type, while on the other hand I do like being with people, yet not exactly a party animal...LOL. And yes I love my own company as well, in fact, I think that is a good sign. Some people are so "starved" for being with people that they can't handle being alone. I know one friend who lives alone...she's the type that when she's been out and comes home heads right for the small TV in the kitchen to turn it on, then turns on the TV in the living room just to have that human contact somehow..me...it doesn't bother me at all to have quiet..yes, I often play the radio and have music on, but very low, but right now? Beautiful quiet..hehe
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@gemini_rose (16264)
11 May 08
My parents are still together, they always only seemed to be interested when I had done something wrong!! I think that because of the fact that I was alone so much of the time, I have grown up to be a loner, I cannot explain this properly but I will try. I like to be with people, but when I am with them I want to be alone, I crave some days to be alone, I enjoy my own company. I have no real time friends and I think that I should, but if I had them, I would not want to spend a lot of time with them, I will not admit to myself but I love my own company. Did you get any of that!!! I also think that I have a creative side, I think that I have always had it, but I have yet to embrace it and let it out, I am scared too in a way, always making excuses that I am too busy!!
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
10 May 08
I was raised by my grandmother so I do not have those bad memories you have, I did feel rejected by my mother, all my formative years but when my grandmother passed away, I was already an adult but she did become a mother to me at that point, and she does make a great grandmother and great grandmother.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 May 08
I often felt rejected by my mother too like I was an inconvenience to her--lets put it this way she was a very "cold" person
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@blackbriar (9076)
• United States
12 May 08
A phone call to my mom to wish her a happy Mother's day is the extent of my acknowledging it. I was here half the day, other half I ended up sleeping. Didn't realize how tired I was till I laid down so hubby could rub lotion on my dry back. No wonder it's been itchy last few days. He was rubbing it and said it was really dry. I ended up sleeping for 4 hrs. and hubby left, came home, and left again during that time. Not sure if he's coming back home or not tonight since he tends to fall asleep over at his parents watching tv while fishing.
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• United States
13 May 08
Absence makes the heart grow fonder and it's very true in my case with my mom. I can't stand living with my mom or my brother. When I moved out is when I started appreciating her more and loving her. I go see her bout once a month but that's it. She has never came down to see us even thou she gets her oil changed not far from our town. Been here 7yrs. but yet wants to see her granddaughter. I simply don't have the money to be putting into my tank to drive the hour one way to go see my mom. We talk on the phone at least once a week, sometimes more, thou. I had planned on going to see her yesterday but with the wind blowing so hard, my car was literally being blown off the road while I was working early Sunday morning. Don't help that my car is badly in need of a front end alignment either. I'm going to head up there this weekend to see her for a few hours. Help her around the house if she needs it as well. Yeah, you might of gotten along better with your mom had you been living somewhere else instead of with her.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
13 May 08
Hmmm...am I to suspect then that maybe there isn't a great rapport between you and your mom or am I reading too much into that? Who knows maybe things would have been better between my own mother and me if I hadn't been living with her all my life...what is the saying? Absence makes the heart grow fonder????
• United States
11 May 08
I best I can say about my relationship with my mother is mostly ambiguous. I neither loved nor hated her, she mostly generated feelings of indifference. It makes people think I am the cold unemotional one of the kids, but that is just the way it is. My mother gave me little reason to really love her for she was pretty unemotional herself. We celebrated Mothers day as a family and we all enjoyed it for the most part. There was a lot about her I didn't like but I didn't let it control my overall outlook. I don't feel my overall outlook or personality has been changed in any way, I consider myself pretty well balanced. I work in the Mental Health Field so at least I am close to help if I ever need it...lol.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
12 May 08
My mother had a very indifferent attitude as well and very cold and unaffectionate..she didn't like contact, hugs, kisses,....so I swear I was switched at birth since I was so opposite..I love showing affection and hug my friends..she never even wanted me to hug her
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
10 May 08
Hello pyewacket, I am really sorry that you had a mother like that and have no fond memories of her. I don't really know how much hurt it would have caused to you knowing and enduring a relation in negative sense that is supposed to be one of the loveliest of all relations. I had always assumed, without conditions, that mothers are only the most loving and caring beings living on this planet, at least for their children. But, ever since I have come to this site, an year ago, I came to know about more and more individuals who didn't have this relationship as good as I always thought it to be. I had knowledge of very, very few cases before too, but I took them as very rare exceptions, I wasn't quite that right, I guess! One reason for this not so accurate assumption of mine were personalities of my own mother, my Aunts, my neighbors and any mother I knew in my homeland. Even my friends mothers showered their love and care not only on their own children but on me too. So, my perception of a 'mother' was nothing but a most loving and caring person who would sacrifice everything for the good and comfort of their children. I am really sorry that you have not had that privilege. It is, in fact, ironic for me that I am calling it a 'privilege' now what I have always thought to be a given. My mother...She is one of the loveliest persons living on the face of earth. I have many memories from my very early age. We are seven brothers and sisters. When she was married, my father wasn't a well off man, they were poor. After some time, my grandfather fell ill and my mother had to take care of him too since there was no one else and my father worked hard. She kept the house, cooked food for us, and as we were poor back then, she had to sew clothes at home, she kept us in clean clothes and always fed us well even when she and my father had to be hungry so that we are well fed. Sometimes my father worked for not less than 18-20 hours a day and my mother after all days work still gave him company when he brought small works at home to earn a little more. She also sew clothes for others for a little extra income. With all that stress, hard work, lack of fulfillment of her own material desires, she never failed to show her love for us and never complained about the tough conditions she was in. She and my father always took some time out to teach us and help us with our lessons and school work and tell us stories to instill in us good character and ethics. I don't know how much strength, courage and endurance she has, but I know that I can't measure them. With all that, how could I think of a 'mother' anything else than a personification of 'love' and 'care'. I can never return her what she did for me and gave me even if I offer her my life. She is worth much, much more than my life and anything that I have. I often pray that she outlives me as I pray for my father, my siblings, my wife, my son and few of my friends. It would be a sad world if I lose her. I wish for every child that they have such a wonderful mother that I am blessed to have.
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
12 May 08
It's strange for me actually. I worked in a different city than my hometown. Whenever I got back after fortnight or a month, my mother would sometime even forget wearing slippers and would run to the front door, which was after a courtyard in between inner door and front door, to hug me. Now it's after keeping in mind that she is very mannered and always try to act moderately. That's what makes it hard for me to understand the behavior of your mother but I do see it now and I am getting my mind to accept it. Of course, I am, in no way, saying that your account is incredible. It's just that I am not used to. As for generally expressing love, you are so right. I used to think that love doesn't need to be expressed, it can show itself in actions and one doesn't need to say someone if we love them or hug them etc. While I still believe it, one of my friends convinced me that love actually increases with expression and it's important that we not only cherish it in our hearts but also express it openly.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 May 08
Wow is all I can say, and you really were blessed to have a mother like that, and even the other women in your life that you knew in your childhood were caring "moms" to you. I think the main problem too, was that both my grandmother and mother were just not demonstrative, caring people, but especially my mother...she didn't know HOW to show any kind of emotions--to give you an example. As I said my mother wasn't a demonstrative person who could show any kind of affection...she was the type to shun affection as well..I was the opposite. Years and years ago, there used to be this guy, Leo Buscalgia known as the "hug" guy...he often had shows on a PBS station here when he was alive. Well he was the type that tried to convey, that we need to show affection to all those in our lives, to the point of giving "hugs"..well one day I decided to give my mother a hug....YIKES..you think I was trying to murder her...she pushed me away, and I came to understand that she just plain didn't like being touched or shown affection...now me I'm the opposite..I gladly and freely will give a hug to my friends and anyone I know
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• Philippines
10 May 08
I learned from my MOTHER that education starts from someone who cares. Not necessarily needs money to enroll in an expensive schools. That needs patience in order to learn and be obedient. She taught us the values of being humble, be patient, to care, to give more understanding and the unconditional love. For me my dearest mom is not perfect but the values i learned from her that i passed to my children is so much so that i can say she's so wonderful and she's the only one we've got that no one can ever take her place. HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY!
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
11 May 08
I envy you in a way as it sounds like you did have in general a good upbringing. My upbringing wasn't "bad" in a sense, but my mother was a very unemotional, uncaring person and very much wrapped up in her own world..she took advantage of everyone she ever knew, her own mother, me and any of her friends...many of her friends dumped her since they sooner or later realized how she took advantage of them...then she wondered why she never had friends later in life
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• India
11 May 08
well friend....i was very much attached to my mother but there was one point on which i used to feel bugged up and that was that she was short tempered and i dont blame her for that because she had gone through hell.She had seven operations done on her and you can understand that how a person might be surviving.Infact as far as i can remember she had been living on medicines and there was not a single day that she did not have medicines.She had been suffering from blood pressure and that stayed on till the end of her life.In a fit of anger she would throw anything which was near her.Infact one day she was having hot boiling coffee and there started an argument between my mom and me and she without seeing that she was holding a hot cofffee threw it at me and i got blisters in my hands and chest.Now that she is no more and i have no complaints against my mom.I want that my mothers sould should be rest in peace.She had otherwise done a lot for our family and we all cannot forget that.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
12 May 08
My mother had very explosive temper/anger fits as well. She was the type that kept her emotions bottled up, but my goodness when she allowed herself to show anger it was actually frightening like a completely different person. I do hope my mother is at peace now herself