Bush Uses Israel's Anniversary For Political Attacks

@anniepa (27955)
United States
May 15, 2008 11:45pm CST
I've heard so many times how nobody should ever go to a foreign country and speak out against the U.S.A. The Dixie Chicks were crucified for it as have many others. I guess that same standard doesn't apply to the President attacking a Senator from the other party who just happens to also be the probable Presidential nominee. http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/37166.html Here is part of what Bush said: "Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: `Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is — the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history." I tend to agree with what Joe Biden said earlier today - that this is bull$hit! What are your thoughts? Annie
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@jormins (1223)
• United States
16 May 08
Nothing Dr. Evil, oops I mean George W does anymore surprises me at all. The only thing that surprises me is that there are such hardcore fanatics (many seemingly on mylot) who still think Bush has been a good President and supports him and his policies. Today was definitely over the line. Even some conservative analysts agreed Bush is in the wrong that when the President leaves our borders our internal politics stays behind. As much as the Republicans are going to use scare tactics, this general election is going to come down to getting out of Iraq by 2010 or get out of Iraq by 2013-2107 and ending Bush's failed policies or attempting to make them permanent. I'm real curious if Jewish people were offended by Bush's comments. I was also surprised McCain didn't denounce Bush's attack today after Howard Dean called him out publicly.
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@AnimeMom (516)
• United States
16 May 08
Republicans use scare tactics? Are you sure about that? Last time i checked the Democrats were trying to scare everyone with global warming. I'd be curious, if you would be so kind as to share, why you dislike President Bush. In your own words, nothing copied form anyone else, no celebrity quotes. Just you, why you dislike him.
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@jormins (1223)
• United States
16 May 08
To the open mind its pretty obvious the Republicans use scare tactics (terrorists, WMD's). While global warming might seem like a scare tactic to you, I think bombs and chemical weapons, and nuclear weapons scare more people than a few degrees and some melting ice. As for Bush, where do I start. Perhaps at the gas pump and the $4.00 a gallon we're looking at. Perhaps food prices? Perhaps us being stuck in Iraq. Perhaps for us not being any closer to finding Bin Laden. Perhaps this terrible economy and debt. The list goes on and on. Where have you been the last 7 years? The only people who should be loving Bush right now should be the oil companies and perhaps military contractors. Why do you love President Bush? Please convince me because I liked Bush more than Gore and Kerry in the past but he has proven me greatly wrong.
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@AnimeMom (516)
• United States
17 May 08
See, that's what's wrong with me. I haven't been using an open mind... but, let me try to analyze this anyway. First and foremost let me begin by saying that I am not ENTIRELY pleased with everything President Bush has done in office, primarily regarding his nonexistent illegal immigration policies. But, I am sick and tired of people playing the blame game at his expense! How much do you TRULY believe the President of the U.S. has to do with it's economy? The answer is far less than you think. As far as scare tactics go, where have YOU been the past 7 years?? Yes, you're right: chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons are scary - in fact they're downright terrifying! But, isn't that the point? There are people out there who despise our way of life, aching to use them on us here at home. And if you don't think that is a legitimate threat, this conversation is already over because you're far too naive! What I'm trying to say is the "Republicans" scare tactics, so-called, are truths. You do need to be very afraid of countries like Iran, trying to acquire nuclear materials and so forth. Regarding the GWOT: If you haven't noticed we're winning the war in Iraq! Troops are coming home! The country of Iraq is far better off, thanks to President Bush - that's something to be proud of as an American! On the global warming front, I do agree with you! A rise in temperature a few degrees pales in comparison to aforementioned! Yet, that is what the Dems are touting isn't it? When they're not Bush-bashing of course. If you really, truly believe that President Bush is solely culpable for all the things you've mentioned (food prices for crying out loud!) I don't even know what to tell you...I'll never be able to convince you.
@snowy22315 (169561)
• United States
16 May 08
The whole world isn't mad. We need to regard other countries as human and not some how beneath us or evil because they espouse a differnet ideology. Reaching out and really listening is the first step.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
17 May 08
"When that "ideology" includes flying planes into office buildings and cutting off people's heads, it has gone far beyond the point where talking could be effective. But that's just my opinion." I agree, but a country didn't do that and we're not talking about talking to al Qaeda. Annie
@AnimeMom (516)
• United States
16 May 08
Well when you think about it logically, do you want your president negotiating with terrorists? That's like a kid having a tantrum in the grocery store, and giving him candy to appease him. He'll just do it again the next time you go back.
@jormins (1223)
• United States
17 May 08
I'd rather enter into negotiations with Iran and get them to stop their nuclear ambitions rather than needlessly invade if we don't have to. Have we not learned anything from the last 5+ years in Iraq? All we have really accomplished is putting in place a government who will ally itself with Iran once we are gone. Al Qaeda is stronger in Afghanistan now but as McCain has told us Iraq was about oil not Bin Laden. I'm not sure where the kid in the candy store analogy goes but apparently even Defense Secretary Gates and Condoleeza Rice agree our current method of dealing with Iran is not working and wish to open negotiations. Perhaps Bush needs to brush up on his own staff and what's going on.
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
17 May 08
I would say that Bush is exactly right. Since he is the president I would say that he has every right to say what he wants to... after all, he does own the Bully Pulpit. Anybody who thinks appeasement is the correct thing to do is naive.... and since that is what the majority of the democrats are wanting to do... including Barack Hussein Obama .... then they should expect to be taken down on a regular basis. Of course you agree with Biden... which makes you both wrong.
• United States
17 May 08
As the president Bush has every right to speak his mind, more so than those who are in subordinate positions to his. If people don't like what he has to say, well that's just tough. I guess they need to learn to deal with it and keep quiet.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
18 May 08
"I guess they need to learn to deal with it and keep quiet." NOBODY needs to keep quiet nor should they! Annie
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
17 May 08
No, I don't think we're both wrong but I DO think we both know the definition of "appeasement". Do you? And, no, being President doesn't give Bush the right to say what he wants to, there are things that just aren't done and most people in positions nowhere near as high as his are aware of them. Annie
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
16 May 08
Dana Perino said it best in the same article Annie. The whole world doesn't revolve around Barack Obama as much as he would like to think so! If he takes offense at what the president said then his supporters should tke a good look at why he takes offense to the statements! Could it be the president hit a soft spot? Is it possible he doesn't want this part of his agenda scrutinized at this point? Just a thought!
@jormins (1223)
• United States
16 May 08
Comparing Nazi's and appeasement to Obama's stance on talking to Iran which is the same as Bush's Defense Secretary Gates and Colin Powell is Obama's soft spot? Perhaps you'd prefer to invade Iran instead of actually talking to them, but I think rational minds realize we can't fight a 3 front war, especially right now. If you seriously think Bush's comments weren't an attack on Obama that amazes me. Yes I'm sure he was addressing other Democrats as well and Carter for talking to Hamas, but it was a very thinly veiled attack on Obama which is obvious to about everyone who knows anything about politics. Its extremely taboo for politicians to go to other countries and use it as a stage for campaigning for their party. I somewhat equate it as spamming tags in subjects to further your point. The more I see strong Bush supporters strongly against Obama the better I feel everyday about the choice I have made. Anyone who still thinks Bush is doing a good job should not be handing out advice on who should be our next President.
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@jormins (1223)
• United States
16 May 08
Iran is a sovereign nation not terrorists. Al Qaeda is a terrorist organization. Hamas is a terrorist organization. Iran is a country. As much as I'm not a fan of Slick Willy, Bush's 8 years have really made Willy's 8 look good in hindsight. That 5.4 trillion dollar surplus he left us with often gets overlooked because of Willy's personal life.
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
16 May 08
Jormins, First and foremost it is virtually impossible to negotiate with terrorists and that is exactly what the regime in Iran is, terrorists! I believe, if Obama is elected, we will have the same situation as when slick willie was the president; he won but you couldn't find anyone who voted for him. Just my opinion but,hey, I'm just one of those nasty Bush supporters who runs around town slobbering and babbling like I don't have an IQ in a positive #!